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On the set of Who Wants To Be A Millionaire? back in 2001 there were technical crew behind the scenes who had been working in television for decades.
They had "seen everything, absolutely everything", says Phil Davies, the senior floor manager for the show at the time. Or they thought they had. "These are people who'd been in the industry 20 years, 30 years. Afterwards, they were all saying, 'I've never seen anything like this.' Well, neither had I." Davies is recalling his account of the now infamous coughing scandal, which later saw contestant Charles Ingram, his wife Diana and accomplice Tecwen Whittock, who was waiting to play himself in the "fastest finger first" seats, convicted of cheating and handed suspended sentences following Ingram's remarkable million-pound "win". Almost 20 years on, the story is in the spotlight once again thanks to new three-part ITV series Quiz. The drama, starring Matthew Macfadyen and Sian Clifford as Charles and Diana Ingram, and Michael Sheen spot-on as host Chris Tarrant, attempts to share both sides of the story, as the couple have always maintained their innocence and are now set to appeal. Criminal defence solicitor Rhona Friedman, who is now representing the Ingrams, says new analysis incorporating technological advances casts doubt on the safety of their convictions, and that it is now possible to identify coughs made by Whittock at moments that weren't significant to Charles Ingram getting the correct answers, as well as coughs made by other members in the audience. Their legal team also says that new investigation into the case also shows that the integrity of the audio evidence of coughing given to the jury at trial may have been compromised. "Although none of the defendants were sent to prison, all three had their reputations ruined and they continue to be publicly mocked for crimes they did not commit," the legal team said in a statement. But Davies, who had worked through hundreds of recordings of the show, and gave evidence at the trial, says there is no doubt in his mind that the trio had devised a plan: Whittock would cough when the correct answer was read out. Situated just metres away from both Ingram in the hot seat opposite Tarrant, and Whittock in the waiting seats for contestants, he says he was able to see - and hear - what was happening. "I was next to Camera 4, which is the one that Tarrant looks at," he says. "It was Tarrant's close-up camera. "It's a very small set. Like a lot of TV sets, you see them in real life, and they look about a quarter of the size that they do on the telly because of the wide-angle lenses. So I could move about and sit and watch contestants as and when I needed to, which is what I did on that night. I was the only one who could do that. I was pretty close." Ingram had already been in the hot seat the previous day, making it to £4,000 with just one lifeline left. Hopes were not high for his second day. In fact, rehearsals - carried out meticulously every day, says Davies - were worked through on the basis of him leaving at the £8,000 mark. Maybe £16,000, if he was lucky. Ingram, an army major at the time, seemed "very nice, very polite, unexceptional". He was, says Davies, "exactly what you'd expect a bumbling army major to be like. 'Oh hello, how are you? Jolly good, tickety-boo. Where am I going? Am I? Oh, okay.' "Just what you'd expect." Diana Ingram was not as warm as her husband, but again, there was nothing suspicious about her, Davies says. "Maybe she was shy, maybe she was nervous. I don't know. You just accept the different types, you know who you can chat with and have a bit of fun with and who you can't. But he was polite and easy to get on with. No problem at all. There was nothing untoward [at first] at all." As is portrayed in Quiz, Diana Ingram had already appeared on the show herself, winning £32,000. Davies says he can't remember if he was aware at the time. "We did dozens and dozens and dozens of these things. It wasn't at all unusual. The amount of times someone would come up to you and say, 'Oh, hello Phil. I knew, you know, Jeffrey who was in episode nine four years ago, you must remember me'. "It used to happen all the time." So there was nothing about the Ingrams that raised suspicion until his second day in the chair. As he started to answer question after question right, seemingly with no knowledge and luck on his side, some of the crew started to smell a rat. "We always said to the contestants, you've got to verbalise what you're thinking. Because, as Tarrant used to say, otherwise it's not much of a show. There's not much to see on Millionaire, it's just someone sat in a chair. "Tarrant was very good, he used to prompt them. 'What are you thinking?' 'Anything you can eliminate?' Or 'what are you leaning towards?' He used to prompt them all the time. And they would always tell you what their knowledge was, their working out." It was the £32,000 question that sealed it in the minds of the crew, says Davies. "Who had a hit UK album with 'Born To Do It', released in 2000?" After using his 50-50, his last lifeline, Ingram was faced with two options: A1 or Craig David. "The major said, 'Oh, I've never heard of Craig David'. But he went with it. "In the hot seat, the contestants always talk through their knowledge and they always eliminate answers. Always, always, always. I've seen hundreds of these things, hundreds of contestants. They'll say it was definitely not that because X happened 10 years before, or that band had broken up by then. There was always solid information. "The major was supposed to be in Mensa, have a strategy… and yet it was all missing, every bit of that was missing. "The other thing that doesn't really get mentioned, is that the show gets edited down. It gets edited down because it's not unusual, particularly on the higher questions, for a contestant to sit there for 10, 12 minutes. Easily, on one question. Imagine that, watching that for 12 minutes. Them sitting there going, 'erm...'. "With him, there was [no reasoning]. It was, 'well, I don't know. I've never heard of that. Or that. Third one... No. The fourth one, not either'. It kept going on like this and we were just flabbergasted." Despite their suspicions, the crew were told they had to keep going. "The first night, he was rubbish," says Davies. "He got up to £4,000 and he'd used two lifelines. People who do that, they don't get very far. They just don't. "But [the next day] he kept on getting them right." The plan for which they were convicted involved Whittock coughing when the correct answer was read out. Simple enough. But it also relied on trusting completely, or knowing for certain, that Whittock had got it right. This is another part of the case the Ingrams' lawyers take issue with, saying the plan would have centred on "total faith" that Whittock's answers were "infallible, as at every stage of Charles Ingram's appearance, a wrong answer meant elimination and the loss of tens of thousands of pounds". Davies says he can't explain that part. "I mean, as a floor manager, that's beyond my remit. I don't know. Apart from the fact he was a college lecturer, he was obviously a clever man. "Maybe he just had a lucky run. But I think that Diana was doing a bit of coughing as well. "All I can say is the only times [Whittock] coughed were when the major was trying to answer a question, and at no other point - like, no other point. "I can assure you he was indicating answers. "And [Ingram] just kept gambling huge, huge, huge amounts of money. Imagine, you're on £500,000, you can take home half a million quid. And then the next question you say, I don't know the answer. "You wouldn't, there's just no way, no way on Earth would you do that. And it had happened again and again and again and again and again." Davies says he started to look around the set. "I was crouched down and I was watching. And Tecwen, there he was, coughing. One single cough. At an appropriate point he'd turn around towards the hot seat and do one cough and turn away again. "He said during the trial that it was very dusty in the studio. I'm sorry but you could have eaten your dinner off that set. It was immaculate, absolutely immaculate. And he didn't have his cough in rehearsals either. It only appeared on the night." The Ingrams were searched as soon as filming stopped, says Davies, but he's not sure about Whittock. Nothing was found. Davies went on to be a witness during the trial and spoke about the coughing. "I just said quite honestly what I saw. I didn't elaborate anything. I didn't make anything up. I have absolutely no doubt at all that it happened and the conviction was correct. "In court, I said the thing that was really odd is that he made no attempt to stifle it. Normally, any coughs were natural, embarrassed, and with an attempt to stifle them, because we were filming. This was an artificial cough. But we had to keep going because there was no proof." After going through all the different options for the million-pound question - "A number one followed by one hundred zeros is known by what name?" - Ingram eventually went for "googol". It was the right answer. But the atmosphere behind the scenes was "as dead as a dodo" following the win, Davies says. "The fact that it went all the way up to the million and then... as we did the million question and he got it right, everyone was just silent. Not Tarrant, not the audience - that was mayhem as you'd expect - but everybody else was just really quiet. "It was then that Tarrant was like, 'What's the matter? What's going on? They were cheating? Really? I didn't notice anything'." It should have been a huge moment. After three years on air, only two people before Ingram had ever won the top prize. "Even the cleverest people could go off with £16,000, £32,000, £64,000," says Davies. "It only takes one thing that you don't know anything about, one little gap in your knowledge. "The super smart ones generally you'd say, yeah, they'll probably get to £64,000. Even £125,000 was quite rare. It really was that unusual." But the more questions Ingram answered, the more evidence there was against him. "As a lot of us said afterwards, if he'd stopped at £125,000 or even £250,000, he probably would've got away with it." Davies has since left the world of television, and now lives in France running a family holiday resort. But the Ingrams' cheating scandal is a part of his career he won't forget, and he is completely unconvinced by any suggestions in Quiz that the trio could be innocent. "He's guilty as sin," Davies says. "As was Tecwen. Whatever the drama might say, that's what happened on the night." |
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First 2 episodes were watchable. Ended up trying to be a comedy which totally ruined it for me. Nearly as farcical as a carry on film. Disappointing. Could've been very good.
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The trial really was temporarily suspended due to an outbreak of coughing.
The programme was in the main an accurate depiction of the facts although Paul Smith never met Paddy Spooner around the time of the trial. He did, however, meet up with him during the production of 'Quiz'. |
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The trial really was temporarily suspended due to an outbreak of coughing.
The programme was in the main an accurate depiction of the facts although Paul Smith never met Paddy Spooner around the time of the trial. He did, however, meet up with him during the production of 'Quiz'. |
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I used to Comment on all The Luvvie Middle class , that were on there ...
Whom I thought were all well off anyway ... Little did we know they were all bang at it ![]() Some them up to a tee ,tbh. |
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Don't be fooled by that fluffy exterior - the middle class are ruthless!
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as a good friend /workmate of mine used to say
every fooooker,s at it ,except us ![]() |
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Did jury service in the 1990's.Similar scenario there was a self appointed bully come spokesman while 5 or 6 said jack s**t
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Have seen both the play and film of 12 angry men and if that's a realistic presentation of what happens in the jury room my inclination would be to risk a jury if actually guilty and not if innocent.
As far as Quiz tv program concerned ,on the evidence presented astounded found guilty. Came over as a likeable character. |
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I have very little doubt about their guilt.The four pagers to me are highly significant,whether they were used or not.It
showed the degree of intent to which they were prepared to go to ,to win the money.If they had quit at 250k they would have been laughing all the way too the bank. |
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most of us think they were guilty, but from the tv prog there was only one verdict the jury could have come up with, NOT GUILTY, and imo the judge should have directed them to that decission.
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blunder, from that tv , how would you have found them, remember beyond on all reasonable doubt
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they were involved helping to make a programme,that to a lot of people made them possibly look innocent as their appeal is been launched,this must either think the appeal judges are barking mad or have some big hitters batting for them
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Just watched all three episodes back to back, and it struck me that the court episode was heavily weighted towards the defence lawyer.
Surely the brother was called as a witness, and surely he was challenged as to why he twice left the studio to try and make a call. But it wasn't shown. Anyone know if he was a witness ? |
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I don't think he was.
Have any forumites been on the show? |
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elisjohn ,if you had purely watched the tv program, I agree that there was an element of doubt.But the program makers have
tried to emphasize that element,the only way to truly judge is sit in on the trial itself. |
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Im no Colombo but I've taken a keen interest in this over the past week and found out a few things which I can only say make your own judgement on.
Forget the Ingrams for a few minutes and look at the bigger picture....the money creamed off by Spooners 'syndicate'.The quizzing community are surprisingly quiet about this programme on their closed facebook pages.After watching a couple of well known quizzers on Youtube on Millionaire a comment on one led me to a link for Millionaire Fandom which list all large winners(far more than I ever imagined,despite watching the show from the word go,i.e there have been 50 winners of £250,00). James Plaskett the writer of the original play ,strong believer in the innocence of the Ingrams was in fact a contestant on the show in 2006.Incredibly this was his 5th time in the FFF chair, considering the volume of calls to get on this show to get on once is very fortunate ...to get on twice the odds become huge....5 times??. Yet this happened to strangely high amount of contestants with connections to the 'quizzing community'. 1st watched Mark Labbett .Nothing too unusual except he'd been in the FFF chair 5 months prior.£32,000. Then it got more interesting. 2nd watched Barry Simmons 5/2/05.Came across very nervy(fair enough).Got to £16,000 then came need for phone a friend.Then became quite shaky ,he phoned Mark Kerr - fairly well known quizzer.''Where is he ?'' asks Tarrant .A clearly flustered Barry says ''Errr at my house,with my wife'' .This is a guy who lives 70 miles away from Barry. Gives him the answer whilst proclaiming to be '90% certain'. Ends up with £64,000 Then go to Fandom to check Mark Kerr's record on show.One appearance 31/1/04.Does very well,gets to stage he needs help ,rings his phone a friend ....Pat Gibson.He gives correct answer which he is '90% certain' on. £250,000 win. Then check Pat Gibsons record.24/4/04.He gets to £1M question,thinks he knows it but rings his friend.....Mark Kerr who in turn gives him the answer which he is '90% certain'. At this point I decided to have look at Paddy Spooners record.Went on 30/3/2000.He won £250,000. Guess how certain his phone a friend was? All circumstantial surely?. Found out a lot more too,but that will do for now.Check out Steve Kidd's record on the show thats a good one. |
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Re.Barry was in FFF seat previously on 24/4/04 & March 04
Re.Pat in seat previously 28/2/04 |
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Plaskett's stint on the show was memorable to many.Very odd and uncommunicative with Tarrant.I observed lots of blinking and gentle nodding as if counting.His answers were
none too convincing either.For instance who was the mother of Charles 2nd and James 2nd? He admitted not to even knowing who their much more famous father was.Little or no explanation to other correct answers as the blinking and nodding continued occasionally with his leg in an 'unorthodox' position.I'll keep my opinions on that one close to my chest.He is apparently none too popular in the quizzing community. |
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I watched Dianes brothers appearance, think was his 4th time on the program and also in the FFF group was Dave Edwards who although not getting into the seat on that occasion came back some months later to become the 2nd millionaire. On his way to £1m he got stuck on 1 question and used all his lifelines, and still went against his better judgement to go with the audience who proved to be correct.
Dianes brother left the show with £32,000 and didn't use one of his lifelines which he wanted to save for later, as did Diane herself who had a lifeline left and went out at £32,000, greed did for both of them. How so many people kept getting on the show over and over again, Charles and Diane even managed to get on a couples show where she did the FFF round, can't recall how they did. |
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In another coincidence
Richard Edwards son of £1M winner David Edwards won £125,000 on the show 3 years after his father.They were each others phone a friend.Oddly neither Richard nor Chris Tarrant mentioned the connection during the show ,even after Tarrant had to talk to David Edwards. |
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What do tv detectives always say about coincidence ?
Usually something like "I don't believe in coincidence". What was the opening statement of the defence counsel in the tv version of the trial ? "You are going to hear a lot about a series of coincidences". ![]() |
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Unlike a lot of people I haven't seen this programme but did follow this closely at the time.
My vague recollection is the Major was very dim and went about the scam in the worst way possible. Instead of keeping his thoughts to himself until he got the signal, on some questions he mused aloud and made clear he really had no clue about the subject of the question, then suddenly was giving a confident final answer............ |
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This was addressed in the program tobes.
The Major said he used tips from his wife's book and advice he received He played the game of going through his thought processes out loud to add to the drama. I'm not sure how true it is but the Major is a member of Mensa (shown in the program) I recommend watching the Quiz. It is entertaining. |
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I posted this a few days ago:
I thought he made a good point about the gasp from the audience when he said 'A1'. If he thought that was indicative, maybe he would change his mind. Also, if he thought that the 50-50 was NOT a random removal of two wrong answers, he might have initially said A1 as a tactic. If you remember, Chris T only said "no help from the audience" before FFF. |
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as many of us suggested
Judges told to stop using 'beyond reasonable doubt' because jurors don't understand what it means and ask if they're 'satisfied that they are sure' instead 'Beyond reasonable doubt' replaced by 'satisfied that they are sure' for jurors The move comes after concerns that jurors didn't understand reasonable doubt https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8257467/Judges-told-stop-using-reasonable-doubt-jurors-dont-understand-means.html |
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8257267/Lawyer-Coughing-Major-says-high-tech-audio-analysis-prove-innocent.html
We have new evidence that can prove our innocence: Who Wants To Be A Millionaire 'Coughing Major' Charles Ingram believes analysis of audio tapes - and a world expert on coughing - will clear his name |
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Dismal news from the criminal justice system where – in a change of great importance – juries are no longer told they must be persuaded ‘beyond reasonable doubt’ that a defendant is guilty. They must merely be ‘sure’. These expressions do not mean the same thing. You may be ‘sure’ you want a pepperoni pizza rather than a vegan one. But the word touches a different bit of the brain from the one reached by the nagging, awkward phrase ‘beyond reasonable doubt’. There is some suggestion jurors were finding it hard to understand what ‘beyond reasonable doubt’ meant. Well, my reply to any such juror is that if you don’t know what it means, then you are not fit to sit on a jury, and should stand aside.
peter hitchens column today |
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listening to their brief, itv have got themselves involved in a 3 night propaganda programme,been used as a prelude to a further appeal,it was a drama now been used as the truth of what happened
I thought the major in the drama said he hadn't read his wives book |
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New series starting at the weekend.
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