German expert has the exit strategy to end lockdown

See earlier thread from someone else who also had no direct responsibility for saving lives.

It is for the insane to suggest using any human life as disposable.

We would have been much better prepared had we locked down earlier but clearly the government were frightened that they couldn't manage to take the dimwitted element of the public with them. We are now playing catch up because of a delayed response and the irresponsibility of members of the public who think they can do what they like with no consequences.

That slow initial response including making a mess of the testing have been the big issues.

I'll repeat paragraph 3.
"Seems a possible solution and not spending our time trying to play the blame game on your favourite hate figures while hoping it goes away by itself, as our economies turn to the stone age and we build up social issues that will make the 30s seem like a boom. I know it uses the Herd word, pavlovian grauniad readers may not want to read it."

And of course it's a german scientist referring to all of us including and indeed you'd think speifically "handled it so well and has more tests than an MOT Centre Germany".

Been saying for a while now that the UK have been using herd immunity by stealth
Particularly vague about essential workers on purpose, and allowing a significant amount of flights in from hotspots.

Add Cheltenham to that too!

defend tory incompetence, or attempt to

whilst highliting said incompetence


well done

Just be thankful Steptoe and Abacus aren't running the show
Half the population would be brown bread now

1. Article talks about German response and discusses it and plan for German exit strategy with German scientist, that would also work here.
2. Pavlovian responses "Tories bad". Jesus wept.

To be fair to the government, in that very first statement when they first rolled out the boffins, this is exactly what they said along with some horrific figures. The public as well as most politicians rightly couldn't stomach this so we went for option 2, lockdown. This was always gonna be a temporary fix and never a solution but to be fair its probably bought a bit of time so at least we now know a little more about covid-19. They no easy solution, you can't plan for a vaccine that may never turn up. Apart from locking down a bit earlier and a few logistical problems which is easy with hindsight to get on your high horse about, i doubt there's much more a government can do. Right from the start it seemed that this was something that most of us were gonna catch and hopefully come through. I'm not even sure how effective any treatment is...the death figures for those who end up on ventilators are grim.

"Just be thankful Steptoe and Abacus aren't running the show"
I think the attitudes and "thinking" taken by some in this crisis exposes why that Communist pillock still managed to get a double figure vote share, instead of the deserved 0..

Apr 12, 2020 -- 1:15PM, Just Checking wrote:

1. Article talks about German response and discusses it and plan for German exit strategy with German scientist, that would also work here.2. Pavlovian responses "Tories bad". Jesus wept.

They can't help themselves , like a demented mongolian fcukpig

abacus


pretty patel

and her number blindness whilst reading autocue


nice one !

Apr 12, 2020 -- 1:15PM, Eric.Cartman wrote:

To be fair to the government, in that very first statement when they first rolled out the boffins, this is exactly what they said along with some horrific figures. The public as well as most politicians rightly couldn't stomach this so we went for option 2, lockdown. This was always gonna be a temporary fix and never a solution but to be fair its probably bought a bit of time so at least we now know a little more about covid-19. They no easy solution, you can't plan for a vaccine that may never turn up. Apart from locking down a bit earlier and a few logistical problems which is easy with hindsight to get on your high horse about, i doubt there's much more a government can do. Right from the start it seemed that this was something that most of us were gonna catch and hopefully come through. I'm not even sure how effective any treatment is...the death figures for those who end up on ventilators are grim.

The political optics of people on gurneys in hospital corridors was too much to stomach for any leader

Sweden announced 17 deaths for Good Friday.

Their herd immunity paying off?

Herd immunity would be a suitable for a while and you just have to pray there is no mutation!

****how not suitable ffs

Sh1tshow

...


abacus



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9NjIttT5buU

There was a study the other day where they tested people in a town in Germany and found far more people had been infected and hadn't known it (than was thought). I think the figure was 5x higher. That would mean the death rate is far lower than expected, which is very good news.

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abacus


pretty patel

and her number blindness whilst reading autocue


nice one !

^

Priti does an absolutely superb press conference informing and inspiring the nation.

And what do the morons on Twitter and here do?

Pick up one thing and run with it. Why? Because the rest of the press conference was superb so they have nothing else to moan about.

(Most of these same morons cannot not even spell her name.)

after bankrupting the country
105 unemployment
lots more evidence young people are effected
evidence from south korea /far east that people are getting it a 2nd time

theres no government on earth going to return to a policy they've rejected,now all above is in their in tray, which it wasn't when they 1st rejected it

Herd immunity would be a suitable for a while and you just have to pray there is no mutation!


Juce - mutation isn't as scary as it sounds.

All RNA viruses mutate. COVID-19 is mutating now.

Seasonal flu mutates and does so faster than COVID-19. A mutated form of the virus is likely to become LESS aggressive. Also, mutation probably doesn't prevent us from developing a short to medium term immunity nor does it mean we can't produce a vaccine.

Apr 12, 2020 -- 1:23PM, Injera wrote:

Sweden announced 17 deaths for Good Friday.Their herd immunity paying off?

Apr 12, 2020 -- 1:36PM, i_agree_with_nick wrote:

Herd immunity would be a suitable for a while and you just have to pray there is no mutation!Juce - mutation isn't as scary as it sounds.All RNA viruses mutate. COVID-19 is mutating now.Seasonal flu mutates and does so faster than COVID-19. A mutated form of the virus is likely to become LESS aggressive. Also, mutation probably doesn't prevent us from developing a short to medium term immunity nor does it mean we can't produce a vaccine.

Yeh I was thinking worse case scenario where after all that effort herd immunity isn't obtained.
Should be ok, as you say these mutations normally make it weaker not stronger

Apr 12, 2020 -- 1:32PM, Just Checking wrote:

There was a study the other day where they tested people in a town in Germany and found far more people had been infected and hadn't known it (than was thought). I think the figure was 5x higher. That would mean the death rate is far lower than expected, which is very good news.

I'm sure that's true and seen as the UK hasn't had a total lockdown it should reach immunity quicker than other countries

lots more evidence young people are effected. evidence from south korea /far east that people are getting it a 2nd time...all complete bollox

Apr 12, 2020 -- 1:34PM, InsiderTrader wrote:

----you-have-to-laugh---12 Apr 20 12:20Joined: 06 Jul 10| Topic/replies: 6,864 | Blogger: ----you-have-to-laugh---'s blogabacuspretty pateland her number blindness whilst reading autocuenice one !^Priti does an absolutely superb press conference informing and inspiring the nation.And what do the morons on Twitter and here do?Pick up one thing and run with it. Why? Because the rest of the press conference was superb so they have nothing else to moan about.(Most of these same morons cannot not even spell her name.)

I like Priti, however I'm always surprised how chunky she is
I even found a gallery of her
I still would like to smash her back door in though!

https://curvage.org/forum/index.php?/forums/topic/31964-pritti-patel/

Apr 12, 2020 -- 1:46PM, Eric.Cartman wrote:

lots more evidence young people are effected. evidence from south korea /far east that people are getting it a 2nd time...all complete bollox

Yeh it's just relapses

jucel I've a related theory as to why Spanish Flu just disappeared .. far more people were infected without symptoms than they realised, they didn't have the means to test back then, herd immunity kicked in, and it was gone. It makes sense, the "mutated itself away" doesn't make ense.

Apr 12, 2020 -- 1:50PM, Just Checking wrote:

jucel I've a related theory as to why Spanish Flu just disappeared .. far more people were infected without symptoms than they realised, they didn't have the means to test back then, herd immunity kicked in, and it was gone. It makes sense, the "mutated itself away" doesn't make ense.

expert after expert
dr after dr
scientist after scientist

all asked on tv countless times whats surprised you most about this virus,

say it slowly for thick kooonts like eric

THE AMOUNT OF PATIENTS IN HOSPITAL IN THEIR 20,S,30,S,40,S,

but of course eric no,s better

Apr 12, 2020 -- 1:47PM, jucel69 wrote:

Apr 12, 2020 -- 12:34PM, InsiderTrader wrote:----you-have-to-laugh---12 Apr 20 12:20Joined: 06 Jul 10| Topic/replies: 6,864 | Blogger: ----you-have-to-laugh---'s blogabacuspretty pateland her number blindness whilst reading autocuenice one !^Priti does an absolutely superb press conference informing and inspiring the nation.And what do the morons on Twitter and here do?Pick up one thing and run with it. Why? Because the rest of the press conference was superb so they have nothing else to moan about.(Most of these same morons cannot not even spell her name.)I like Priti, however I'm always surprised how chunky she isI even found a gallery of herI still would like to smash her back door in though!https://curvage.org/forum/index.php?/forums/topic/31964-pritti-patel/

Wonder if Boris has given Priti one, they look quite chummy on a few of the pics!!

whats the death rate... unders 30's Mr Sweeping Statement ?

Wheres the evidence people are getting reinfected Mr Sweeping Staement ?

they wernt effected at all 8 weeks ago according to all the experts, you cant get a hospital bed for them now

Plenty of hospital beds available.

moron


tut tut



argument lost









abacus

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9NjIttT5buU

More sh!te...you can't just randomly say things and hope people don't pull you up on them..it doesn't make you clever, you just look a t!t

"It is for the insane to suggest using any human life as disposable"

Normal practice,  manufactures pay handsomely for those willing to trial new drugs.