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Watch a programme last night. All seemed very strange. Double jeopardy really got me thinking. CIO that solved this imo absolutely believed in his role as a police investigator and refreshingly strongly advocates the jury system.
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Still waiting for programmes on these racist murders, surely the media isn't anti white as i'd never heard of these horrific racist murders!?!?!?!?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kriss_Donald
Kriss Donald (2 July 1988 – 15 March 2004) was a 15-year-old white Scottish boy who was kidnapped and murdered in Glasgow in 2004 by a gang of men of Pakistani origin (though locally raised),[1] some of whom fled to Pakistan after the crime.[3][4][5][6] Daanish Zahid, Imran Shahid, Zeeshan Shahid and Mohammed Faisal Mustaq were later found guilty of racially motivated murder and sentenced to life imprisonment
WILL ALL BE NEARLY RELEASED BY NOW!
On 15 March 2004, Donald was abducted from Kenmure Street by five men associated with a local British Pakistani gang led by Imran Shahid. The kidnapping was ostensibly revenge for an attack on Shahid at a nightclub in Glasgow city centre the night before by a local white gang, and Donald was chosen as an example of a "white boy from the McCulloch Street area" despite having no involvement in the nightclub attack or in any gang activity.[1][10][11][12][13]
Donald was taken on a 200-mile journey to Dundee and back while his kidnappers made phone calls looking for a house to take him to. Having no success at this, they returned to Glasgow and took him to the Clyde Walkway, near Celtic Football Club's training ground.[1][11] There, they held his arms (ascertained due to an absence of defensive wounds) and stabbed him multiple times. He sustained internal injuries to three arteries, one of his lungs, his liver and a kidney. He was doused in petrol and set on fire as he bled to death.[1][10][14]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kriss_Donald
Kriss Donald (2 July 1988 – 15 March 2004) was a 15-year-old white Scottish boy who was kidnapped and murdered in Glasgow in 2004 by a gang of men of Pakistani origin (though locally raised),[1] some of whom fled to Pakistan after the crime.[3][4][5][6] Daanish Zahid, Imran Shahid, Zeeshan Shahid and Mohammed Faisal Mustaq were later found guilty of racially motivated murder and sentenced to life imprisonment
WILL ALL BE NEARLY RELEASED BY NOW!
On 15 March 2004, Donald was abducted from Kenmure Street by five men associated with a local British Pakistani gang led by Imran Shahid. The kidnapping was ostensibly revenge for an attack on Shahid at a nightclub in Glasgow city centre the night before by a local white gang, and Donald was chosen as an example of a "white boy from the McCulloch Street area" despite having no involvement in the nightclub attack or in any gang activity.[1][10][11][12][13]
Donald was taken on a 200-mile journey to Dundee and back while his kidnappers made phone calls looking for a house to take him to. Having no success at this, they returned to Glasgow and took him to the Clyde Walkway, near Celtic Football Club's training ground.[1][11] There, they held his arms (ascertained due to an absence of defensive wounds) and stabbed him multiple times. He sustained internal injuries to three arteries, one of his lungs, his liver and a kidney. He was doused in petrol and set on fire as he bled to death.[1][10][14]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Ross_Parker
Ross Andrew Parker (17 August 1984 – 21 September 2001), from Peterborough, England, UK, was a seventeen-year-old White English male murdered in an unprovoked racially motivated crime. He bled to death after being stabbed, beaten with a hammer, and repeatedly kicked by a gang of British Pakistani men.[3][4][5] The incident occurred in Millfield, Peterborough, ten days after the September 11 attacks.[6]
In December 2002, Shaied Nazir, Ahmed Ali Awan and Sarfraz Ali were unanimously found guilty of Parker's murder and sentenced to life imprisonment, each receiving minimum terms ranging from 16–18 years. A fourth defendant, Zairaff Mahrad, was cleared of murder and manslaughter.
ALL WILL BE RELEASED BY NOW, LIFE A JOKE!
Parker was murdered shortly after 1:15 a.m. on Friday 21 September 2001 while walking with his girlfriend.[13] The attack took place on a cycle path alongside Bourges Boulevard in Millfield, Peterborough, near to Russell Street.[14][15] Racial tensions in the area were high as the 11 September attacks in New York City had only occurred ten days earlier.[6]
Having finished work early, Parker and Toms were walking to visit her friend's house[13] when they were confronted by a gang of around ten Pakistani youths, some of whom were wearing balaclavas;[5][4][16][17] the 2002 trial judge concluded that they had planned to find "a white male to attack simply because he was white" in the context of "hostility on the part of some of the younger white residents of the city against the Asian community".[3] They warned Parker he had "better start running", but then blocked his path and quickly sprayed him in the face with CS gas.[18] He was punched in the stomach then stabbed three times from behind through the throat and chest with a foot-long hunting knife.[3] The knife penetrated completely through his body on two occasions and as he was lying on the ground he was repeatedly kicked and struck with a panel beater's hammer.[17]
Toms ran to a nearby petrol station for help and a man there gave her his mobile phone to call the police. While making the call, she twice heard Parker cry out in pain. By chance she spotted a passing police car. She entered the car and guided the officer to the scene of the assault.[13] Although Toms had only been away for a few minutes, by the time she returned Parker had already bled to death and the gang had disappeared.[16][19]
After the murder, four of the gang returned to a garage which they used as their headquarters. Ahmed Ali Awan, brandishing the bloodied knife, exclaimed "cherish the blood".[6][8][16] The police informed Parker's family of his death at 4:30 a.m.; his body remained at the scene during the day while an investigation was conducted.[11][16] A post-mortem revealed Parker had died as a result of stab wounds inflicted by a bladed instrument.[20]
Ross Andrew Parker (17 August 1984 – 21 September 2001), from Peterborough, England, UK, was a seventeen-year-old White English male murdered in an unprovoked racially motivated crime. He bled to death after being stabbed, beaten with a hammer, and repeatedly kicked by a gang of British Pakistani men.[3][4][5] The incident occurred in Millfield, Peterborough, ten days after the September 11 attacks.[6]
In December 2002, Shaied Nazir, Ahmed Ali Awan and Sarfraz Ali were unanimously found guilty of Parker's murder and sentenced to life imprisonment, each receiving minimum terms ranging from 16–18 years. A fourth defendant, Zairaff Mahrad, was cleared of murder and manslaughter.
ALL WILL BE RELEASED BY NOW, LIFE A JOKE!
Parker was murdered shortly after 1:15 a.m. on Friday 21 September 2001 while walking with his girlfriend.[13] The attack took place on a cycle path alongside Bourges Boulevard in Millfield, Peterborough, near to Russell Street.[14][15] Racial tensions in the area were high as the 11 September attacks in New York City had only occurred ten days earlier.[6]
Having finished work early, Parker and Toms were walking to visit her friend's house[13] when they were confronted by a gang of around ten Pakistani youths, some of whom were wearing balaclavas;[5][4][16][17] the 2002 trial judge concluded that they had planned to find "a white male to attack simply because he was white" in the context of "hostility on the part of some of the younger white residents of the city against the Asian community".[3] They warned Parker he had "better start running", but then blocked his path and quickly sprayed him in the face with CS gas.[18] He was punched in the stomach then stabbed three times from behind through the throat and chest with a foot-long hunting knife.[3] The knife penetrated completely through his body on two occasions and as he was lying on the ground he was repeatedly kicked and struck with a panel beater's hammer.[17]
Toms ran to a nearby petrol station for help and a man there gave her his mobile phone to call the police. While making the call, she twice heard Parker cry out in pain. By chance she spotted a passing police car. She entered the car and guided the officer to the scene of the assault.[13] Although Toms had only been away for a few minutes, by the time she returned Parker had already bled to death and the gang had disappeared.[16][19]
After the murder, four of the gang returned to a garage which they used as their headquarters. Ahmed Ali Awan, brandishing the bloodied knife, exclaimed "cherish the blood".[6][8][16] The police informed Parker's family of his death at 4:30 a.m.; his body remained at the scene during the day while an investigation was conducted.[11][16] A post-mortem revealed Parker had died as a result of stab wounds inflicted by a bladed instrument.[20]
WHY ARE NEITHER OF THESE KNOWN BY 99% OF US??? DISGUSTING...
moonaxed
Police are under cps control
Cps are under British asian control
They're always going to hush up brown on white crime.You have to retaliate first,boycott asian restaurant and business and taxis, hit em in the pocket first
WTF!??
I've read some bollox on here.. But this takes the biscuit! Are you Fecking insane?? you Cretin!
Police are under cps control
Cps are under British asian control
They're always going to hush up brown on white crime.You have to retaliate first,boycott asian restaurant and business and taxis, hit em in the pocket first
WTF!??
I've read some bollox on here.. But this takes the biscuit! Are you Fecking insane?? you Cretin!
Apr 11, 2020 -- 4:51PM, moonaxed wrote:
Police are under cps controlCps are under British asian controlThey're always going to hush up brown on white crime.You have to retaliate first,boycott asian restaurant and business and taxis, hit em in the pocket first
That's another thick racist blocked.
stephen lawrence threads attract the filth of the forum like cows around ****, got any doreen lawrence jokes, scum??
wow, programmes on stephen lawrence and nothing on kriss donald, the mind boggles, a white boy gets killed in a racist murder and about 1% of the country hears about yet however many years later we still hear about stephen lawrence, the double standards are incredible
I'd reckon 99% of scottish people know of below case, it was heavily featured on tv and all over the papers
Still waiting for programmes on these racist murders, surely the media isn't anti white as i'd never heard of these horrific racist murders!?!?!?!?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kriss_Donald
Kriss Donald (2 July 1988 – 15 March 2004) was a 15-year-old white Scottish boy who was kidnapped and murdered in Glasgow in 2004 by a gang of men of Pakistani origin (though locally raised),[1] some of whom fled to Pakistan after the crime.[3][4][5][6] Daanish Zahid, Imran Shahid, Zeeshan Shahid and Mohammed Faisal Mustaq were later found guilty of racially motivated murder and sentenced to life imprisonment
WILL ALL BE NEARLY RELEASED BY NOW!
On 15 March 2004, Donald was abducted from Kenmure Street by five men associated with a local British Pakistani gang led by Imran Shahid. The kidnapping was ostensibly revenge for an attack on Shahid at a nightclub in Glasgow city centre the night before by a local white gang, and Donald was chosen as an example of a "white boy from the McCulloch Street area" despite having no involvement in the nightclub attack or in any gang activity.[1][10][11][12][13]
Donald was taken on a 200-mile journey to Dundee and back while his kidnappers made phone calls looking for a house to take him to. Having no success at this, they returned to Glasgow and took him to the Clyde Walkway, near Celtic Football Club's training ground.[1][11] There, they held his arms (ascertained due to an absence of defensive wounds) and stabbed him multiple times. He sustained internal injuries to three arteries, one of his lungs, his liver and a kidney. He was doused in petrol and set on fire as he bled to death.[1][10][14]
Still waiting for programmes on these racist murders, surely the media isn't anti white as i'd never heard of these horrific racist murders!?!?!?!?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kriss_Donald
Kriss Donald (2 July 1988 – 15 March 2004) was a 15-year-old white Scottish boy who was kidnapped and murdered in Glasgow in 2004 by a gang of men of Pakistani origin (though locally raised),[1] some of whom fled to Pakistan after the crime.[3][4][5][6] Daanish Zahid, Imran Shahid, Zeeshan Shahid and Mohammed Faisal Mustaq were later found guilty of racially motivated murder and sentenced to life imprisonment
WILL ALL BE NEARLY RELEASED BY NOW!
On 15 March 2004, Donald was abducted from Kenmure Street by five men associated with a local British Pakistani gang led by Imran Shahid. The kidnapping was ostensibly revenge for an attack on Shahid at a nightclub in Glasgow city centre the night before by a local white gang, and Donald was chosen as an example of a "white boy from the McCulloch Street area" despite having no involvement in the nightclub attack or in any gang activity.[1][10][11][12][13]
Donald was taken on a 200-mile journey to Dundee and back while his kidnappers made phone calls looking for a house to take him to. Having no success at this, they returned to Glasgow and took him to the Clyde Walkway, near Celtic Football Club's training ground.[1][11] There, they held his arms (ascertained due to an absence of defensive wounds) and stabbed him multiple times. He sustained internal injuries to three arteries, one of his lungs, his liver and a kidney. He was doused in petrol and set on fire as he bled to death.[1][10][14]
THEY EVEN FOLLOWED THEM WHEN IN JAIL
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/dad-blamed-kriss-donald-murder-11623942
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/dad-blamed-kriss-donald-murder-11623942
more updates, so i don't think it was ever ignored, not eligible for parole to 2031 btw you will be happy to hear, probably best to check facts before posting pish.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/crime/race-hate-killer-baldy-punched-18986919
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/crime/race-hate-killer-baldy-punched-18986919
I’d never heard of this murder. Horrific. Hyenas the lot of them.
Reading up on Wiki I found this near the bottom of the page;
Shahid also received media attention for cases he brought against the prison service governors in 2017 for unlawful removal of his possessions[46] (a 'penis pump' for erectile dysfunction which was deemed to have negligible medical benefit, and an Xbox games console which it was believed could have been adjusted to access the internet), which were dismissed.
A penis pump!
Reading up on Wiki I found this near the bottom of the page;
Shahid also received media attention for cases he brought against the prison service governors in 2017 for unlawful removal of his possessions[46] (a 'penis pump' for erectile dysfunction which was deemed to have negligible medical benefit, and an Xbox games console which it was believed could have been adjusted to access the internet), which were dismissed.
A penis pump!
It was never mainstream Itv BBC Sky news etc unlike 20+ years of the Lawerence case, barely anyone knows of it...99% LMFAO you appeaser, total lies, it was hushed up and ignored by 99% of the mainstream you mean
Exactly same as the Ross Parker murder just as horrific and 99% of people have never heard of it
It was never mainstream Itv BBC Sky news etc unlike 20+ years of the Lawerence case, barely anyone knows of it...99% LMFAO you appeaser, total lies, it was hushed up and ignored by 99% of the mainstream you mean
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It wasn't hushed up ya liar.
it happened in Scotland you fool everybody knows about it there, do you not know Scotland is a country with it's own national newspapers and tv channels BBC SCOTLAND AND STV, that report Scottish news ? if you don't watch it, that is you're problem !
It certainly wasn't hushed up, they got maximum sentences available.
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It wasn't hushed up ya liar.
it happened in Scotland you fool everybody knows about it there, do you not know Scotland is a country with it's own national newspapers and tv channels BBC SCOTLAND AND STV, that report Scottish news ? if you don't watch it, that is you're problem !
It certainly wasn't hushed up, they got maximum sentences available.
Lawrence has a plaque where he died with CCTV above it... soldier Rigby.. 1 mile away has fcuk all
There was a plaque in Woolwich but it was ripped up by the council 
Surprised there's nothing Official for Lee Rigby, often drive past always seems to be flags and flowers there. Is that true Reynard?
The most unusual aspect of this murder is his name he is the one black stab victim who's name people know
Lawrence has plenty of memorials across the borough.. youth clubs.. community halls and his mum is a Baroness.....sick country now
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.4881864,0.0621936,3a,80.6y,327.94h,86.61t/...
Emitdeb • April 19, 2020 6:18 PM BST
Surprised there's nothing Official for Lee Rigby, often drive past always seems to be flags and flowers there. Is that true Reynard?
Apparently so . Cannot confirm visually cos unlike you our lot ain't allowed to venture sarf of the river cos woundedknee and the rest of 'em would be there to provide the welcoming committee
Surprised there's nothing Official for Lee Rigby, often drive past always seems to be flags and flowers there. Is that true Reynard?
Apparently so . Cannot confirm visually cos unlike you our lot ain't allowed to venture sarf of the river cos woundedknee and the rest of 'em would be there to provide the welcoming committee
banners and flags are put on the railings ... FILTH council remove them... i live local
Apr 19, 2020 -- 6:06PM, MALAY wrote:
It was never mainstream Itv BBC Sky news etc unlike 20+ years of the Lawerence case, barely anyone knows of it...99% LMFAO you appeaser, total lies, it was hushed up and ignored by 99% of the mainstream you meanRate reply: | report block userIt wasn't hushed up ya liar. it happened in Scotland you fool everybody knows about it there, do you not know Scotland is a country with it's own national newspapers and tv channels BBC SCOTLAND AND STV, that report Scottish news ? if you don't watch it, that is you're problem !It certainly wasn't hushed up, they got maximum sentences available.
Grant lives in Scotland and says no one knows the story but they all know Lawrence, you an appeaser and would fit in well at Greenwich council....FILTH
I used to live in that street. Sad to see that racism is still rampant, even after these years.
Surprised you acknowledge the murder of Lee Rigby as a 'racist murder'
Apr 19, 2020 -- 7:22PM, Richie_Burnett wrote:
Well Hall Road. Near the high street.
APPEASER GENERAL NO 1
I asked 5 of my fellow aberdonians if that had heard of Kriss Donald and none of them had, reckon Malay was meaning 99% of glasgow had heard of him
Apr 19, 2020 -- 6:06PM, MALAY wrote:
It was never mainstream Itv BBC Sky news etc unlike 20+ years of the Lawerence case, barely anyone knows of it...99% LMFAO you appeaser, total lies, it was hushed up and ignored by 99% of the mainstream you meanRate reply: | report block userIt wasn't hushed up ya liar. it happened in Scotland you fool everybody knows about it there, do you not know Scotland is a country with it's own national newspapers and tv channels BBC SCOTLAND AND STV, that report Scottish news ? if you don't watch it, that is you're problem !It certainly wasn't hushed up, they got maximum sentences available.
usual victims in this thread just think that there are 3 racist murders that have been reported differently and applied no other thinking to it at all
was the murder of SL reported in Scotland I am certain it did
I can confirm both murders were regularly reported in Scotland, the Daily Record were all over the Kriss Donald murder - a shocking case that defies belief as of course was the Steven Lawrence one
point scoring over race murders is not a good trait imo
point scoring over race murders is not a good trait imo
The Kriss Donald case got little or no coverage in England were SL was never out of the news
wonder if that's because the Stephen Lawrence case is one that had continuous developments over the time it took from murder to convict (20 years btw) compared to two cases which from the Wiki pages, were fairly uncomplicated and the justice system did its job generally
lawerence co def.. was a convicted rapist and robber... Sl werent so squeaky clean ..
And how exactly does that explain why the death of KD was swept under the carpet south of the boarder? for a man who is usually quick to cry foul over a lack of equality you seem to have dropped the ball
We are told what the powers want us to know . It is all lies anyway . So therefore i read no newspapers and watch no news WHATSOEVER . I have done this for over 10 years now and it has been for the better .
I will never go back to all of the stuff . ITS WORTHLESS .
I will never go back to all of the stuff . ITS WORTHLESS .
Lack of media coverage
The BBC has been criticised by some viewers because the case featured on national news only three times and the first trial was later largely confined to regional Scottish bulletins including the verdict itself. Although admitting that the BBC had "got it wrong", the organisation's Head of Newsgathering, Fran Unsworth, largely rejected the suggestion that Donald's race played a part in the lack of reportage, instead claiming it was mostly a product of "Scottish blindness". In preference to reporting the verdict the organisation found the time to report the opening of a new arts centre in Gateshead in its running order.[24] The BBC again faced criticisms for its failure to cover the second trial in its main bulletins, waiting until day 18 to mention the issue and Peter Horrocks of the BBC apologised for the organisation's further failings.
The BBC has been criticised by some viewers because the case featured on national news only three times and the first trial was later largely confined to regional Scottish bulletins including the verdict itself. Although admitting that the BBC had "got it wrong", the organisation's Head of Newsgathering, Fran Unsworth, largely rejected the suggestion that Donald's race played a part in the lack of reportage, instead claiming it was mostly a product of "Scottish blindness". In preference to reporting the verdict the organisation found the time to report the opening of a new arts centre in Gateshead in its running order.[24] The BBC again faced criticisms for its failure to cover the second trial in its main bulletins, waiting until day 18 to mention the issue and Peter Horrocks of the BBC apologised for the organisation's further failings.
what are you talking about wounded knee, lawrence co def? do you mean his friend who was with him at the time?
Apr 19, 2020 -- 8:21PM, woundedknee wrote:
lawerence co def.. was a convicted rapist and robber... Sl werent so squeaky clean ..
just say he deserved it, wk
BBC censoring murders of whites by ethnics, who'd have thought it?
yep lawrences pal..who got a job with the FILTH BBC as well
lawerence co def.. was a convicted rapist and robber ( you obv mean his pal)
Now are you sure of this???
Now are you sure of this???
wounded knee, i think you have just libelled duwayne brooks and you could get yourself and betfair into trouble, you should ask for those posts to be removed.
brooks was arrested for rape, the charge was downgraded and when it went to court thrown out by the judge as the alleged victim only pressed charges because she was coereced by the police. she admitted there was no assault to a police mediator who did not change her statement. brooks was the victim of a sustained police vendetta who subsequently became a lib dem councillor and got a gong.
it is pretty despicable that you use the words co defs, they were two innocent young men who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time and were attacked by murderous thugs armed with knives.
brooks was arrested for rape, the charge was downgraded and when it went to court thrown out by the judge as the alleged victim only pressed charges because she was coereced by the police. she admitted there was no assault to a police mediator who did not change her statement. brooks was the victim of a sustained police vendetta who subsequently became a lib dem councillor and got a gong.
it is pretty despicable that you use the words co defs, they were two innocent young men who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time and were attacked by murderous thugs armed with knives.
Grant and his pals must be the only ones in Scotland not to have heard of the Kriss Donald case. Wall to wall coverage of this hideous crime throughout Scotland at the time.
saddo you really are a bit of a prat as the main reason the Lawrence case got more coverage was because it took so long to get justice for him and from what I recall there was police incompetence and also the police were found guilty of institutional racism and a cover up whereas the Kriss Donald case however shocking did not take nearly 20 years to get justice. I would also suggest that generally a crime in London would normally get more coverage than one in Glasgow on the national news.
they were two innocent young men who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time and were attacked by murderous thugs armed with knives.
Dont matter what colour they were... Just No Excuse and No Defence. Filthy business perpetrated by FILTH (one of the few times on here youll see the word used correctly)
Dont matter what colour they were... Just No Excuse and No Defence. Filthy business perpetrated by FILTH (one of the few times on here youll see the word used correctly)
fife 19 Apr 20 19:54
saddo you really are a bit of a prat
I would also suggest that generally a crime in London would normally get more coverage than one in Glasgow on the national news.
I would not think the two killings comparable in any way other than racism. Wasn't Donald tortured at great length and burned alive afterwards?
saddo you really are a bit of a prat
I would also suggest that generally a crime in London would normally get more coverage than one in Glasgow on the national news.
I would not think the two killings comparable in any way other than racism. Wasn't Donald tortured at great length and burned alive afterwards?
jswagg maybe i misesd the charges being dropped... does he have convictions for Robbery?
Apr 19, 2020 -- 8:51PM, themightymac wrote:
Grant and his pals must be the only ones in Scotland not to have heard of the Kriss Donald case. Wall to wall coverage of this hideous crime throughout Scotland at the time.
I reckon if u stood in aberdeen city centre doing a survey stopping random people in the street if they have heard of kriss donald it will be the complete opposite to what u think
It was the BBC who had to apologise for not reporting it Richie, no doubt kept low to no profile in England 'for the public good'.
not maybe, read my post, he was an innocent man and justice was done, no thanks to the met.
as far as i remember he got arrested in welling at a demonstration outside the bnp or (whatever it was) bookstore. those charges were also dropped and i think and he received compensation.
i think he also got arrested whilst working as some kind of salesman and had some goods in his car when arrested. despite asking the police to move the car or remove the goods the police wouldnt. the car or goods were subsequently stolen, likely costing brooks even more anguish and the tax payer more money.
i am not 100% on the last one but i am certain on the others, there was a concerted effort by the police against him. i dont know if he has convictions for robbery and, clearly, neither do you. i doubt he would have got a gong or been recruited by the lib dems to stand as a councillor if so.
over the years i have heard a few locals make accusations against the murder victim but none of them have ever provided me with any evidence. as he is dead lawrence cannot defend himself from these accusations nor can he sue. you cant libel the dead so perhaps you can provide me with more details?
where abouts do you live woundedknee? for someone who is local you dont actually seem to know much at all about the case, you really should be more careful what you post.
as far as i remember he got arrested in welling at a demonstration outside the bnp or (whatever it was) bookstore. those charges were also dropped and i think and he received compensation.
i think he also got arrested whilst working as some kind of salesman and had some goods in his car when arrested. despite asking the police to move the car or remove the goods the police wouldnt. the car or goods were subsequently stolen, likely costing brooks even more anguish and the tax payer more money.
i am not 100% on the last one but i am certain on the others, there was a concerted effort by the police against him. i dont know if he has convictions for robbery and, clearly, neither do you. i doubt he would have got a gong or been recruited by the lib dems to stand as a councillor if so.
over the years i have heard a few locals make accusations against the murder victim but none of them have ever provided me with any evidence. as he is dead lawrence cannot defend himself from these accusations nor can he sue. you cant libel the dead so perhaps you can provide me with more details?
where abouts do you live woundedknee? for someone who is local you dont actually seem to know much at all about the case, you really should be more careful what you post.
I really found that surprising Grant as I thought it was high proflie in Scotland, however I just asked my wife and eldest daughter (24) and neither had heard of the case
they had both heard of the Stephen Lawrence murder so read it that what you want...
they had both heard of the Stephen Lawrence murder so read it that what you want...
swagman, were the met in cahoots with the families of the killers?
New Eltham... it was a long time ago...he seems to get picked on a lot... usually no smoke without fire... ive had a good few kickings off old bill... got 2 not guiltys at crown court .. never got any compo in my life
lawrence was huge because his parents wouldnt let go, his dad did some painting and decorating for daily mail editor paul dacre who didnt like what he heard so helped keep it in the spotlight. the mail even named the alleged as murderers and challenged them to sue, which didnt happen. it came to symbolise what justice was like for young black people in london at the time. read my previous post about some of the things the met did to his mate after the murder, it was rancid.
saddo, i remember watching a documentary about it and one of the investigating officers was seemingly friends and possibly more than friends with the father of one of the accused who himself was supposedly an underworld figure (i am purposely qualifying what i say). 'cahoots' is a definite possibility imo, that is as far as i would go.
google 'murder of daniel morgan' to see what the met were up to, or not up to, at that time. an axe in the head doesnt sound like a good way shuffle off to me.
the gang were also suspected of stabbing a young asian lad around the time of the murder, back then eltham was quite a dangerous place for non whites. i think when nicked one of the two found guilty also had or was wanted for quite a big drugs deal???
on the other hand, lawrence hoped to become an architect and wounded knee joins the list of about four or five people who i have heard make accusations against him but have provided me with no evidence of him being involved in wrongdoing.
google 'murder of daniel morgan' to see what the met were up to, or not up to, at that time. an axe in the head doesnt sound like a good way shuffle off to me.
the gang were also suspected of stabbing a young asian lad around the time of the murder, back then eltham was quite a dangerous place for non whites. i think when nicked one of the two found guilty also had or was wanted for quite a big drugs deal???
on the other hand, lawrence hoped to become an architect and wounded knee joins the list of about four or five people who i have heard make accusations against him but have provided me with no evidence of him being involved in wrongdoing.
The whole lawrence case is rotten to the core the liberal elites changed the law ending the double jeperdy protection law they even allowed tainted evidence into a court of law as far as know no civilised country would have allowed such evidence to sully there legal integrity
oh dear, here's another one.
macarony, an innocent man was slaughtered, at best the police bungled the investigation but eventually two of the guilty were sent to prison and all you can do is talk of liberal elites as if innocent men are languishing in prison. it stinks because some murderers got away with murder.
what tainted evidence is there macarony, please inform me? you should also get in touch with the criminal cases review commission if you have any such evidence.
dont you think its good if compelling evidence gets someone convicted who had previously got away with a serious crime?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/11/14/double-jeopardy-case-ends-double-murder-conviction-jewel-thief/
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/may/21/killer-convicted-double-jeopardy
macarony, an innocent man was slaughtered, at best the police bungled the investigation but eventually two of the guilty were sent to prison and all you can do is talk of liberal elites as if innocent men are languishing in prison. it stinks because some murderers got away with murder.
what tainted evidence is there macarony, please inform me? you should also get in touch with the criminal cases review commission if you have any such evidence.
dont you think its good if compelling evidence gets someone convicted who had previously got away with a serious crime?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/11/14/double-jeopardy-case-ends-double-murder-conviction-jewel-thief/
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/may/21/killer-convicted-double-jeopardy
I reckon if u stood in aberdeen city centre doing a survey stopping random people in the street if they have heard of kriss donald it will be the complete opposite to what u think
Probably so, but there is a difference between not remembering it and never hearing about it. It was wall to wall coverage over all Scottish media at the time. That is Fact.
Probably so, but there is a difference between not remembering it and never hearing about it. It was wall to wall coverage over all Scottish media at the time. That is Fact.
not having an opinion as I'd never heard of him either but this is from wiki.
Lack of media coverage
The BBC has been criticised by some viewers because the case featured on national news only three times and the first trial was later largely confined to regional Scottish bulletins including the verdict itself. Although admitting that the BBC had "got it wrong", the organisation's Head of Newsgathering, Fran Unsworth, largely rejected the suggestion that Donald's race played a part in the lack of reportage, instead claiming it was mostly a product of "Scottish blindness". In preference to reporting the verdict the organisation found the time to report the opening of a new arts centre in Gateshead in its running order.[24] The BBC again faced criticisms for its failure to cover the second trial in its main bulletins, waiting until day 18 to mention the issue and Peter Horrocks of the BBC apologised for the organisation's further failings.[25]
Peter Fahy, spokesman of race issues for the Association of Chief Police Officers, noted that the media as a whole tended to under-report the racist murders of white people, stating "it was a fact that it was harder to get the media interested where murder victims were young white men".[26]
The British National Party was accused by Scotland's First Minister and Labour Party MSP Jack McConnell among others of seeking to exploit the case for political advantage, and an open letter signed by MSPs, trades unionists, and community leaders, condemned the BNP's plans to stage a visit to Pollokshields. The group did hold a rally in the area, leading to accusations that it was fuelling racial tension.[27]
Lack of media coverage
The BBC has been criticised by some viewers because the case featured on national news only three times and the first trial was later largely confined to regional Scottish bulletins including the verdict itself. Although admitting that the BBC had "got it wrong", the organisation's Head of Newsgathering, Fran Unsworth, largely rejected the suggestion that Donald's race played a part in the lack of reportage, instead claiming it was mostly a product of "Scottish blindness". In preference to reporting the verdict the organisation found the time to report the opening of a new arts centre in Gateshead in its running order.[24] The BBC again faced criticisms for its failure to cover the second trial in its main bulletins, waiting until day 18 to mention the issue and Peter Horrocks of the BBC apologised for the organisation's further failings.[25]
Peter Fahy, spokesman of race issues for the Association of Chief Police Officers, noted that the media as a whole tended to under-report the racist murders of white people, stating "it was a fact that it was harder to get the media interested where murder victims were young white men".[26]
The British National Party was accused by Scotland's First Minister and Labour Party MSP Jack McConnell among others of seeking to exploit the case for political advantage, and an open letter signed by MSPs, trades unionists, and community leaders, condemned the BNP's plans to stage a visit to Pollokshields. The group did hold a rally in the area, leading to accusations that it was fuelling racial tension.[27]
Thanks Macarony. Until now, I was resting happily and satisfied that the changes to the retrial laws were driven by improvements in forensics and technology; when all along it was a liberal elite, or even several of them that made it happen.
Blackburn and jolly you would of self exploded if these things had happened to an ethnic minority so do us all a favour and have a day off the evidence wouldn't even fly in a kangaroo court
Macarony - leaving aside your stupid preposition, are you in favour of the 2003 changes to the "double jeopardy" laws? If not, why not?
No why because just like this case the establishment can keep trying until they win all the change done was to sh1t on the reputation of British law and in the eyes of many has lost any respect it ever had.
Macarony - Does this one fit your criteria for the establishment keeping trying?
I think this was the first case under the new law. Is this one as "bad" as the Lawrence case?
https://news.sky.com/story/how-scrapping-double-jeopardy-has-brought-killers...
I think this was the first case under the new law. Is this one as "bad" as the Lawrence case?
https://news.sky.com/story/how-scrapping-double-jeopardy-has-brought-killers...
Double jeopardy was there to stop the establishment abusing its power Nothing to stop that from happening now.
On the subject of the evidence no civilised country would use contaminated evidence
On the subject of the evidence no civilised country would use contaminated evidence
jswagg ...there are no areas in london where it is dangerous for white people is there ??????? where do you live ?
Tottenham
Wood green
There no go areas north London after dark
Dont know south London probably a few there,i wouldn't go to New Cross at any time of the day or night!
Wood green
There no go areas north London after dark
Dont know south London probably a few there,i wouldn't go to New Cross at any time of the day or night!
Im not scared to go anywhere .................. with my Mrs 
Hello, good evening and welcome
To nothing much
A no holds barred half-nelson
And the loving touch
The comfort and the joy
Of feeling lost
With the only living boy in New Cross
To nothing much
A no holds barred half-nelson
And the loving touch
The comfort and the joy
Of feeling lost
With the only living boy in New Cross
Try and add up his actual sentence,need a spread sheet, even judge doesn't know. But very telling what he thinks of this guy in opening comments, most is consecutive,take its not a death death state.
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