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The Kriss Donald case got little or no coverage in England were SL was never out of the news
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wonder if that's because the Stephen Lawrence case is one that had continuous developments over the time it took from murder to convict (20 years btw) compared to two cases which from the Wiki pages, were fairly uncomplicated and the justice system did its job generally
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yep full of squaddies
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lawerence co def.. was a convicted rapist and robber... Sl werent so squeaky clean ..
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And how exactly does that explain why the death of KD was swept under the carpet south of the boarder? for a man who is usually quick to cry foul over a lack of equality you seem to have dropped the ball
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We are told what the powers want us to know . It is all lies anyway . So therefore i read no newspapers and watch no news WHATSOEVER . I have done this for over 10 years now and it has been for the better .
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Lack of media coverage
The BBC has been criticised by some viewers because the case featured on national news only three times and the first trial was later largely confined to regional Scottish bulletins including the verdict itself. Although admitting that the BBC had "got it wrong", the organisation's Head of Newsgathering, Fran Unsworth, largely rejected the suggestion that Donald's race played a part in the lack of reportage, instead claiming it was mostly a product of "Scottish blindness". In preference to reporting the verdict the organisation found the time to report the opening of a new arts centre in Gateshead in its running order.[24] The BBC again faced criticisms for its failure to cover the second trial in its main bulletins, waiting until day 18 to mention the issue and Peter Horrocks of the BBC apologised for the organisation's further failings. |
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what are you talking about wounded knee, lawrence co def? do you mean his friend who was with him at the time?
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BBC censoring murders of whites by ethnics, who'd have thought it?
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yep lawrences pal..who got a job with the FILTH BBC as well
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lawerence co def.. was a convicted rapist and robber ( you obv mean his pal)
Now are you sure of this??? |
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wounded knee, i think you have just libelled duwayne brooks and you could get yourself and betfair into trouble, you should ask for those posts to be removed.
brooks was arrested for rape, the charge was downgraded and when it went to court thrown out by the judge as the alleged victim only pressed charges because she was coereced by the police. she admitted there was no assault to a police mediator who did not change her statement. brooks was the victim of a sustained police vendetta who subsequently became a lib dem councillor and got a gong. it is pretty despicable that you use the words co defs, they were two innocent young men who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time and were attacked by murderous thugs armed with knives. |
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Grant and his pals must be the only ones in Scotland not to have heard of the Kriss Donald case. Wall to wall coverage of this hideous crime throughout Scotland at the time.
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saddo you really are a bit of a prat as the main reason the Lawrence case got more coverage was because it took so long to get justice for him and from what I recall there was police incompetence and also the police were found guilty of institutional racism and a cover up whereas the Kriss Donald case however shocking did not take nearly 20 years to get justice. I would also suggest that generally a crime in London would normally get more coverage than one in Glasgow on the national news.
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they were two innocent young men who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time and were attacked by murderous thugs armed with knives.
Dont matter what colour they were... Just No Excuse and No Defence. Filthy business perpetrated by FILTH (one of the few times on here youll see the word used correctly) |
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fife 19 Apr 20 19:54
saddo you really are a bit of a prat I would also suggest that generally a crime in London would normally get more coverage than one in Glasgow on the national news. I would not think the two killings comparable in any way other than racism. Wasn't Donald tortured at great length and burned alive afterwards? |
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Racists doridoru and saddo
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jswagg maybe i misesd the charges being dropped... does he have convictions for Robbery?
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It was the BBC who had to apologise for not reporting it Richie, no doubt kept low to no profile in England 'for the public good'.
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"for the sake of diversity" as naz shah would put it
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not maybe, read my post, he was an innocent man and justice was done, no thanks to the met.
as far as i remember he got arrested in welling at a demonstration outside the bnp or (whatever it was) bookstore. those charges were also dropped and i think and he received compensation. i think he also got arrested whilst working as some kind of salesman and had some goods in his car when arrested. despite asking the police to move the car or remove the goods the police wouldnt. the car or goods were subsequently stolen, likely costing brooks even more anguish and the tax payer more money. i am not 100% on the last one but i am certain on the others, there was a concerted effort by the police against him. i dont know if he has convictions for robbery and, clearly, neither do you. i doubt he would have got a gong or been recruited by the lib dems to stand as a councillor if so. over the years i have heard a few locals make accusations against the murder victim but none of them have ever provided me with any evidence. as he is dead lawrence cannot defend himself from these accusations nor can he sue. you cant libel the dead so perhaps you can provide me with more details? where abouts do you live woundedknee? for someone who is local you dont actually seem to know much at all about the case, you really should be more careful what you post. |
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I really found that surprising Grant as I thought it was high proflie in Scotland, however I just asked my wife and eldest daughter (24) and neither had heard of the case
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swagman, were the met in cahoots with the families of the killers?
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New Eltham... it was a long time ago...he seems to get picked on a lot... usually no smoke without fire... ive had a good few kickings off old bill... got 2 not guiltys at crown court .. never got any compo in my life
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lawrence was huge because his parents wouldnt let go, his dad did some painting and decorating for daily mail editor paul dacre who didnt like what he heard so helped keep it in the spotlight. the mail even named the alleged as murderers and challenged them to sue, which didnt happen. it came to symbolise what justice was like for young black people in london at the time. read my previous post about some of the things the met did to his mate after the murder, it was rancid.
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saddo, i remember watching a documentary about it and one of the investigating officers was seemingly friends and possibly more than friends with the father of one of the accused who himself was supposedly an underworld figure (i am purposely qualifying what i say). 'cahoots' is a definite possibility imo, that is as far as i would go.
google 'murder of daniel morgan' to see what the met were up to, or not up to, at that time. an axe in the head doesnt sound like a good way shuffle off to me. the gang were also suspected of stabbing a young asian lad around the time of the murder, back then eltham was quite a dangerous place for non whites. i think when nicked one of the two found guilty also had or was wanted for quite a big drugs deal??? on the other hand, lawrence hoped to become an architect and wounded knee joins the list of about four or five people who i have heard make accusations against him but have provided me with no evidence of him being involved in wrongdoing. |
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The whole lawrence case is rotten to the core the liberal elites changed the law ending the double jeperdy protection law they even allowed tainted evidence into a court of law as far as know no civilised country would have allowed such evidence to sully there legal integrity
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oh dear, here's another one.
macarony, an innocent man was slaughtered, at best the police bungled the investigation but eventually two of the guilty were sent to prison and all you can do is talk of liberal elites as if innocent men are languishing in prison. it stinks because some murderers got away with murder. what tainted evidence is there macarony, please inform me? you should also get in touch with the criminal cases review commission if you have any such evidence. dont you think its good if compelling evidence gets someone convicted who had previously got away with a serious crime? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/11/14/double-jeopardy-case-ends-double-murder-conviction-jewel-thief/ https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/may/21/killer-convicted-double-jeopardy |
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I reckon if u stood in aberdeen city centre doing a survey stopping random people in the street if they have heard of kriss donald it will be the complete opposite to what u think
Probably so, but there is a difference between not remembering it and never hearing about it. It was wall to wall coverage over all Scottish media at the time. That is Fact. |
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not having an opinion as I'd never heard of him either but this is from wiki.
Lack of media coverage The BBC has been criticised by some viewers because the case featured on national news only three times and the first trial was later largely confined to regional Scottish bulletins including the verdict itself. Although admitting that the BBC had "got it wrong", the organisation's Head of Newsgathering, Fran Unsworth, largely rejected the suggestion that Donald's race played a part in the lack of reportage, instead claiming it was mostly a product of "Scottish blindness". In preference to reporting the verdict the organisation found the time to report the opening of a new arts centre in Gateshead in its running order.[24] The BBC again faced criticisms for its failure to cover the second trial in its main bulletins, waiting until day 18 to mention the issue and Peter Horrocks of the BBC apologised for the organisation's further failings.[25] Peter Fahy, spokesman of race issues for the Association of Chief Police Officers, noted that the media as a whole tended to under-report the racist murders of white people, stating "it was a fact that it was harder to get the media interested where murder victims were young white men".[26] The British National Party was accused by Scotland's First Minister and Labour Party MSP Jack McConnell among others of seeking to exploit the case for political advantage, and an open letter signed by MSPs, trades unionists, and community leaders, condemned the BNP's plans to stage a visit to Pollokshields. The group did hold a rally in the area, leading to accusations that it was fuelling racial tension.[27] |
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Thanks Macarony. Until now, I was resting happily and satisfied that the changes to the retrial laws were driven by improvements in forensics and technology; when all along it was a liberal elite, or even several of them that made it happen.
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Blackburn and jolly you would of self exploded if these things had happened to an ethnic minority so do us all a favour and have a day off the evidence wouldn't even fly in a kangaroo court
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Macarony - leaving aside your stupid preposition, are you in favour of the 2003 changes to the "double jeopardy" laws? If not, why not?
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No why because just like this case the establishment can keep trying until they win all the change done was to sh1t on the reputation of British law and in the eyes of many has lost any respect it ever had.
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Macarony - Does this one fit your criteria for the establishment keeping trying?
I think this was the first case under the new law. Is this one as "bad" as the Lawrence case? https://news.sky.com/story/how-scrapping-double-jeopardy-has-brought-killers-to-justice-11646468 |
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Double jeopardy was there to stop the establishment abusing its power Nothing to stop that from happening now.
On the subject of the evidence no civilised country would use contaminated evidence |
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jswagg ...there are no areas in london where it is dangerous for white people is there ??????? where do you live ?
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Tottenham
Wood green There no go areas north London after dark Dont know south London probably a few there,i wouldn't go to New Cross at any time of the day or night! |