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lux
10 Apr 20 14:06
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Spewing streams of filthy virulent exhaust bilge wherever they go, clearly a significant threat to public health - Allowed

Government mandated virtue signalling 8pm w**kathon often in relatively close and perilous proximity - Allowed

Sitting on a beach or in a park at significant distance with minimal threat - Scum of the earth, hang em high.

Desperate times. Cry
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Report geordie1956 April 10, 2020 2:18 PM BST
I take the point you make but we are told that the virus remains on a hard surface for up to 72 hours (I assume that is factual)  ... if someone sit on a park bench and touches it when sitting or to help themselves up they may be inadvertantly contaminating the seat ... someone else coming along may do exactly the same and the virus is transmitted which we are trying to avoid
Lying on the grass isn't in itself a concern I believe but if lots of people start to do it then where does it stop and it sends the wrong message
The measures are draconian in a free society and some police are over zealous in enforcement of the rules .... but common sense goes a long way  .. and yes there are idiots who think the rules don't apply to them ...
Report lux April 10, 2020 3:40 PM BST
I acknowledge your concern regarding smear transmission (I think you misread beach for bench?) although we are told the risk of this is extremely low and should be easily nullified through basic precaution.

However, all common sense seems to have gone out the window. On my daily walk I see plenty of old folk sitting out in my local park and on the prom. Should we really insist that they remain indoors all day if they have limited outside access and/or mobility?  My local beach runs for miles and is never busy enough even at peak summer holiday times to warrant any real concern regarding proximal transmission. Just seems illogical that the greatest apparent danger should go unaddressed?
Report jollyswagman April 10, 2020 4:09 PM BST
in my experience far too many cyclists and joggers pay no regard to the 2m rule so i am with the o p. it is particularly annoying when they are behind you as sometimes they just run/cycle past you and there is too little time to try and ensure the correct distance is kept. selfish feckers, imo.
Report lux April 10, 2020 4:22 PM BST
I'd be amazed if this seemingly arbitrary 2 metre rule had any real scientific rationale behind it. If you crossing a persons wake then you are clearly at some risk.
Report impossible123 April 10, 2020 4:26 PM BST
I'd confiscate their gears ie trainers and bikes given the potential health nuisance and danger they might cause to walkers. The public pathways are for pedestrians only, not joggers or bikers. The joggers can find an open field eg football pitch to run round to their heart's content; bikers could use the road or a velodrome.
Report jollyswagman April 10, 2020 4:27 PM BST
agreed, i did read something that suggested 8m might be more appropriate. i try and keep as far apart as possible, crossing the road if i see on comers but if someone is behind you and you dont have time to react there is nothing you can do.
Report 1st time poster April 10, 2020 4:33 PM BST
theres still no evidence of smear transmission out there in the world despite every scientist,chemist,trying to find it,
the person sat on the bench would have to have the virus
would have to cough ,sneeze, onto his own hands are on to a bench for example
those droplets would have to suufficently strong enough in enough quantity to pass the viruys on
before the smear went neutral
someone else would have to come along put their hands on the smear
they would then have to transfer that smear thtrough their nose,mouth ears,

for this chain of events to be happening in its 10,s of 1000,s is stretching credibility imo,
scientists would have tonnes of smears of tubes,supermarket doors,handles etc etc yet theres no evidence anyone has collected as much as a sliver
Report 1st time poster April 10, 2020 4:39 PM BST
theres a clip on sky today of a lady in hospital coughing her guts up into an oxygen mask must be millions of these so called droplets,she then takes the mask off and puts it straight back on,surely she should be putting a new mask on,or if you,ye got it doesn't it matter if you keep on re inhaling droplets
Report potlis April 10, 2020 5:10 PM BST
Along our seafront you are in far more danger from cyclists than you are from the virus, like the f**king Tour De France along there today, head down and as fast as their legs will take them.
Report 1st time poster April 10, 2020 5:13 PM BST
you,d think j d sports etc would iron all them lumps and bumps out of all that lycra before they sold itWink
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