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England not Reporting Care Home and at Home Deaths.
England not Reporting Care Home and at Home Deaths.
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Eric seriously mare if you can't see it by now there's no hope for you
Where are all the deaths? why isn't 12% of your town/village dead? |
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The streets are not littered with bodies because hardly anyone has had it
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Nobody is suggesting the whole country has been infected FFS.
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"new nightingale hospitals for patients may never open"
There's a sodding surprise So what your saying eric is its not infectious then thanks for confirming Watch him move the goal posts now..... |
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Its not "high infectious"
Thank you |
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Waiting for goal post movement...
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What are you on about? It was you who asked why 12% of his village weren't dead, implying that 100% were infected.
Why are you not surprised Nightingale Hospitals may never open? |
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Just maths fella...early on there were just daft assumptions that huge swathes of the public may have already had it...and that was just nonsense
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If the whole country catches it thats 8.4m deaths then
sorry but I think we'd have noticed that by now More and more positives coming through eric, so its most likely 20 million have already had it What is it a 50% positive rate from testing? |
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Its killing mainly the over 70s, the odd under 50 dies but majority of them are obese with other health conditions
I think we know its hysteria for no good reason at this point |
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only testing in hospitals FFS...those with worst symptoms and its still 75% negative
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Jesus H Christ.
Why would we be in lockdown if the whole country had it? There is no way of telling how many have had without antibody testing. So stop talking thru your arsé about how many have had it. If the experts don't have a clue then you don't. Once again you completely ignore what would happen if hospitals were overwhelmed by allowing it to spread. Biggest melt on this forum |
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Ok so 75% are negative fine
So where's the problem? peopled simply ain't catching this virus are they? In fact it gets worse when they go to hospital if anything, It'd be the last place I'd go This is about control, this is basically another strain of flu as I said weeks ago, and its knocking off the already on the way outers, they were on the exit road anyway 99% of them The odd under 50 with underlying health conditions aside |
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No lurka but what about the "celebrities" that have had it and got through it without being hospitalised
Boris the overweight drinker spent a week sitting up in bed with a bit of breathing problem that's it Sorry but the majority dying from this are the elderly, and they get knocked off during the winter epidemic flu season anyway Something to thing about eh |
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You need to look at those numbers again, 12,000 deaths from the start of March, week 7
Is 12,000 deaths really high enough in a 7 week period when its the height of the flu season in regards to releasing numbers? 50,000 died of the flu/pneumonia a couple of years ago, this thing isn't killing the young, its giving them a cough and a fever ffs |
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i pretty much agree with most of what you say..just i've gone a different path to you..i reckon hardly anyone has had it(%wise) but it doesn't really matter if your under60 and healthy cus you will 'probably' sail through it, IF you get it. But if your 80,with a dodgy ticker living in a care home with Romanian staff who wipe their @rses with their hands and rob you dry whilst you asleep, your probably goosed.
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Don't shoot the messenger boys. If you don't like the official numbers as of 10 minutes ago, make your own up.
People tested positive for covid19... 93,873 Deaths attributed to covid19... 12,107 12.89% I imagine 12% of the country isn't dropping, because 100% of the population hasn't tested positive. |
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Like I said on the other thread over 50% of deaths (ie a majority) are over 80 and currently 94% of people dying have underlying issues.
The other 6% they are probably mostly old or fat. Yet shamefully we are still trying to scare the kids by pretending they are at risk. Disgusting and cowardly. |
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I'm not saying people ain't getting sick, we get sick all the time, what I'm saying is that its not killing the young like they are going off that it is
12,000 is bad when you look at as just a number, but 12,000 when we are in the worst months for hospital pneumonia isn't really all that bad GoldenVision just making up his own narrative to fit his agenda |
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Stop winding people up TGV. You know those stats are totally worthless.
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Dotch
This is what I'm saying, we've given it long enough now to see some proper "data", and what we are seeing is the usual flu like deaths in the elderly/weak 12,000 deaths and I'd wager 95% of them are either old, underlying health conditions, overweight/obese, poor diets and ultimately weaker immune systems Probably even more than that I'd guess as well |
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You thought the flu was a pandemic every year  For the umpteenth time you are comparing flu which cannot infect as many or spread nearly as quickly as this, with a pandemic novel virus which can. The issue is not the rate of death. The issue is the rate of spread and overwhelming of hospitals when the death rate of everything jumps and 95% of people don't have a health service. I have explained this to you at least 5 times and you ignore it every time because it makes nonsense of your argument. You are comparing apples with oranges and ignoring the issue which is the rate of spread and overwhelming of hospitals. Who is suggesting kids are at risk? Kids are mainly considered to be spreaders. |
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And wearing masks is a no no
It will make you sick because you are breathing the same air through the mask? you ain't getting proper circulated air which your lungs need, in fact you are producing poor air, you're body will start to suffer if you wear them for to long. |
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But you've just said its not affecting that many people?
You said most of us haven't had it? which is it lurka, is it high infectious or not? If its spreading faster than the flu 80% of us would have it by now, its been 7 weeks lurka |
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It does seem to a controlled spread, but yet we are told its more infectious than flu
The numbers don't back this up do they |
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I didn't say most of haven't had it. I said nobody even the experts have a clue who has had it so you have even less of a clue. You need antibody tests for that and they haven't even started.
Stop comparing death numbers from a virus with immunity, a vaccine and no lockdown with death numbers that haven't even peaked yet of a virus with no immunity, no vaccine and a lockdown. What do you think the death numbers would be with no lockdown? You don't have a clue and neither do I but that is the only thing you could compare flu death numbers with. |
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so it could just be that it takes out a load old people like the flu then?
If no one knows then it could be just that? |
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FFS. If hospitals are overwhelmed, it will take out a lot more young and old people and a lot of others with other illnesses who can't get treatment.
Are you trolling or playing dumb? |
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The experts say the hospitals will be overwhelmed, even with a lockdown. There isn't a CMO anywhere in the world who doesn't think this. But continue to put your fingers in your ears and shout 'wa wa wa' pre4tending you know more than the best experts on the planet if you want.
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If its so infectious and more deadly than the flu why aren't there more people in the hospitals right now?
Why are the hospitals well within capacity even though they are under funded with not only money but equipment as well ? They only have 13% in terms of PPE and are short on ventilators but are still coping? Doesn't add up because we are in a pandemic lurka |
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Lurka sorry but we are at peak numbers now and they are still coping
It might go up a bit more but we are at the peak right now |
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"experts" the same expert who yesterday claimed the virus lives in a dead body?
How does it get out of said dead body then? |
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The media seem more concerned with Trumps tantrum last night than the virus today
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Yes it will probably mostly take out old codgers....12million overs65's in this country....so lets be optimistic, lets say 1 in 4 who catch KungFlu end up in hospital, lets be even more optimistic and say of those who end up in hospital 9/10 manage to walk away..that still leaves 300,000 potential dead...now listen that aint gonna happen, your not going to get a 100% infection rate...the point is project those figures onto the 10,000 old codgers who have already died and you can see the percentage of people already infected must be tiny (very low single figures).
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Nobody knows if it's more deadly than the flu. The deadliness is not the issue as has been explained to you ad nauseam.
There aren't so many people in hospitals because of the lockdown provisions which don't allow it to spread quickly. The lockdown provisions were introduced weeks ago because we'd be overwhelmed by now without them, according to the experts. We are still coping because of the lockdown and because it hasn't peaked yet. What doesn't add up. You have to be a special kind of stupid to not understand the above after having it explained to you like a child 6 times and still not get it. |
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Eric
This virus would be weakened by now anyway Its has a peak strength and no amount of idiocy from "experts" can deny that, its peak hit 2 weeks ago, we are heading into warmer weather now and it will continue to weaken through the rest of this month. |
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Lurka sorry but we are at peak numbers now and they are still coping
It might go up a bit more but we are at the peak right now astounding |
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Lurka it has peaked, we hit the peak at the weekend, Italy peaked and are still in that peak zone but its going down now. and they coped fine remember.
Don't keep moving the peaking goal posts I predict we will see 1000+ though, but it wont go any higher, the peak like is 900-1100, you can't keep moving the peak line because it hit 938 when the other high was 909 for example that's not how it works |
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Could well be right fella....still pretty certain hardly anyone's had it (relatively)...and considering our 'lockdown' involves 10 milllion people still going to work/2 million kids to school you have to question is it as highly infectious as first thought
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There's some right clowns on this forum seriously
What are you benefitting from? because there's no facking way you ain't benefitting from something in regards to this |