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SontaranStratagem, terry mccann, John.W.Henry.
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Fire-and-ice is talking nonsense as usual. His first link is medical insurance and the second link is a critical illness policy Critical illness policies payout on diagnosis of cancer, not death by cancer. So saying a patient died of covid rather than cancer would be irrelevant to these policies (except on the extraordinary circumstance of someone dying of covid who had undiagnosed cancer). There are no* life insurance policies that pay out only on death by cancer.
*there might be some fraud company that markets something like that but no large company would as the policies wouldn't be sold by brokers because they have the opposite of a unique selling point. |
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Mexico, you know fine well what I meant by, "It's not quite cricket", so kindly refrain from handing me your verbal pish justifying your reasons for derailing my thread which asked just one question to a particular trio of people.
While you certainly make some valid points in other areas, they were not the topic of this thread. Thank you and I hope you learn better manners. Charlie, as I said to Mexico, I was asking three people for their opinions and I specifically said, "be it fake news or true." So mind your language, mind your manners and I'll thank you to wind yer fkn neck in while your at it. I'll leave the thread to the two of you to ruin further as I've finished with it. SontaranStratagem, terry mccann, John.W.Henry. - Illegitimi non carborundum  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnN6T3O7jww  People gonna make ya wonder if you're right Keep ya wide awake and worried late at night Why don't ya tell 'em to beat it Why don't ya tell 'em to eat it They're just a bunch of clowns Don't let 'em grind ya down Sons of bitches, crocodile tears in their eyes We scare 'em shitless just by showin' up alive Why don't you tell 'em to shove it You know they might as well love it Give you runaround Don't let 'em grind ya down Evil bastards ain't got nothin' else to do Make your life a misery and put you off your food Don't you dare to go under Don't let 'em steal your thunder Listen to the sound Well let 'em grind that down |
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wind yer fkn neck in while you're at it.
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Trilby
This isn't "your thread" - it is a thread on a Betfair chit chat forum. You have no ownership or control over this thread. Betfair have a list of terms and conditions which YOU. agreed to. No changing the rules because you wrongly believe this is your thread "is just not cricket " As mentioned by myself and others this thread is full of dangerous lies. What isn't cricket is for these dangerous lies to go unchallenged because this is "your" thread. John's post and Fire's poor attempt to support his friend with a couple of ilrelevant links all fall into the deadly narrative that somehow this virus isn't what it seems. Trilby - over 100k people have been killed by this virus , nearly 1,000 are dying everyday in the UK & you are crying because someone else is posting on "your" thread. Maybe some sort of perspective about priorities Trilby? It' not exactly cricket to post lies about a killer virus on this forum is it? Maybe worth reading the laws of cricket & forum T&C. Maybe point out where it is fine to post complete BS about this killer virus. Still the important point is that some people have poster on "your" thread. So thank and I hope you learn better manners. If better manners is too much to ask then no1 priority is that you, John, Terry M, Fire, and EVERYBODY else follows the health/government advice (& law) and stay at home. Use Social distancing & save lives. |
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I will do as I wish Mexico.
No self-important prat like you will EVER lecture me. Are we clear? |
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trilby22
What do you make of this one fellas? An ICU nurse of 30 years speaks out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCgea5o3ALU&feature=youtu.be |
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John.W.Henry.
Date Joined: 20 Sep 11 Add contact | Send message 10 Apr 20 08:58Joined: 20 Sep 11 | Topic/replies: 3,241 | Blogger: John.W.Henry.'s blog I dont like anonymous voice overs m8. Although there may be reasons why. Interesting but we cannot hang ourselves on it. try this one from a named and qualified doctor speaking on fox news. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6A-fAvEEpI Well worth 6 minutes of your time. There is a very interesting contribution at about 5 mins in |
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dave135710 Apr 20 18:56Joined: 05 Sep 10 | Topic/replies: 12,307
Fire-and-ice is talking nonsense as usual. His first link is medical insurance and the second link is a critical illness policy Critical illness policies payout on diagnosis of cancer, not death by cancer. So saying a patient died of covid rather than cancer would be irrelevant to these policies (except on the extraordinary circumstance of someone dying of covid who had undiagnosed cancer). There are no* life insurance policies that pay out only on death by cancer. *there might be some fraud company that markets something like that but no large company would as the policies wouldn't be sold by brokers because they have the opposite of a unique selling point. I gotta admit, I didn't bother to check those links out myself. I just googled and took links from the top. I couldn't care less, but thought it'd give Mexico summat to do. It pleases me that you wasted your time too, Dave. Idiot Now where is the quote that Terry McCann wants millions of kids to die? The actual quote, not your twisted interpretation. That's your next little task. |
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I will do as I wish Mexico.
No self-important prat like you will EVER lecture me. Are we clear? Fire your attitude of "I won't follow health & government advice & "I will do as I lwish " is irresponsible, selfish and illegal. Are we clear? I clearly can't stop you from endangering the health and even lives of yourself and many other people but I can point out that your attitude is dangerous. You seem to have published on an open forum that you are prepared to break the law because "I will do as I like" The lecture has not just come me - it has come from medical professionals, elected government and scientists. You seem happy enough to break the law and don't seem to care about the potential harm you may be doing by ignoring the government advice. Isn't that pretty much the ultimate example of nasty selfish irresponsible behaviour. We can see that you don't understand the basic principles of life assurance now you seem to think that the law doesn't apply to you. I wish you and your friends and family the best of health & hope you have a change of heart and don't "do as you wish" Don't be evil . |
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Reading stuff that isn't there and ignoring what is.
I will do as I wish doesn't mean I'm not lawful You sir are an idiot Now I've reported you already for harrasment and not adhering to forum rules. Carry on, you irrelevance. |
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trilby22
What do you make of this one fellas? An ICU nurse of 30 years speaks out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCgea5o3ALU&feature=youtu.be ================= John.W.Henry. Date Joined: 20 Sep 11 Add contact | Send message 10 Apr 20 08:58Joined: 20 Sep 11 | Topic/replies: 3,241 | Blogger: John.W.Henry.'s blog I dont like anonymous voice overs m8. Although there may be reasons why. Interesting but we cannot hang ourselves on it. try this one from a named and qualified doctor speaking on fox news. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6A-fAvEEpI Well worth 6 minutes of your time. There is a very interesting contribution at about 5 mins in |
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Fire-and-Ice10 Apr 20 14:25Joined: 26 Feb 19 | Topic/replies: 680 | Blogger: Fire-and-Ice's blog
The topic I'm referring to is the the topic this thread started with! The first 2 posts on this thread contain youtube clips and are asking for people's response to them. It is you who is hijacking the thread solely in order to squabble with the usernames who upset you! You don't even watch youtube clips so why contribute? Silly Mex |
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Fire
Err yes it does Your "I'll do as I wish" was a reply to the " follow government advice & keep social distancing " The law/advice is there to protect lives. it doesn't allow for "I'll do as I wish" attitude. Glad you have already changed your attitude and won't be breaking the law. Well done Fire - you hero. Gold star for not breaking the law. |
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.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6A-fAvEEpI
This link needs to be seen A qualified USA doctor/senator's viewpoint on covid numbers It is obvious that posters on here with an agenda don't want people to see this kind of viewpoint. Are they evil? Possibly. They have closed minds and feel threatened by what the doctor is saying. Deflection and derailment of debate is what they do. They are not exactly subtle are they? |
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Misunderstnding what I said and me clarifying it for you doesn't mean you've changed my mind Mexico.
Seriously, you are a strange little fella |
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This link needs to be seen
A qualified USA doctor/senator's viewpoint on covid numbers It is obvious that posters on here with an agenda don't want people to see this kind of viewpoint. Are they evil? Possibly. They have closed minds and feel threatened by what the doctor is saying. Deflection and derailment of debate is what they do. They are not exactly subtle are they? |
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^^^
.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6A-fAvEEpI |
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Fire
There was no misunderstanding I said you (& myself & everybody) should okay social distancing advice Your reply was "I'll do as I wish" - it is obvious what you meant. Fire - don't "do as you wish" , respect the law & advice. Followed by some personal abuse ? |
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Deflection and derailment ^^
What do you think of what the doctor/senator is saying here? Is he evil? If you have no thoughts, feel free to be quiet. .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6A-fAvEEpI |
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if you don't observe social distancing, what law have you broken? |
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Hi Wonder. Most of it covered in The Coronavirus Act 2020.
Was bought in just before Easter break. |
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correct...however that isn't the law, its a statute
contravening the coronavirus act is not breaking the law if acts of parliament were laws they'd be called laws of parliament |
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there will not be 1 prosecution in a court of law for not adhering to social distancing
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https://www.parliament.uk/about/how/laws/acts/
An Act of Parliament creates a new law or changes an existing law. Are you sure you are correct wonder. The good people at Parliament.uk seem to think it is the law. So seems to be a difference of opinion. Who is correct? Are you sure about this Act of Parliament being different to the law? |
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The courts will throw them all out mex
Not enough time in the world to deal with them ffs, absolute waste of time the cops doing it in my opinion, but its a power trip for them at the minute |
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We seem to be at our peak now, which will remain this way for a good 2 weeks, Italy and Spain are well on their way down now
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The thing is these numbers are from 2 weeks ago not today, todays numbers are going to be reported in 2 weeks time, then we'll know where we are by then.
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I am correct & I congratulate the system its done a great job brainwashing you
legislation is not "the law" as you seem to think, it is statute "the law" in england is made up of statutes & common law statutes require societal consent which is implied but can be refused common law, on the other hand, you are bound by so you can do something that is illegal but lawful |
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so I repeat, you are not breaking the law if you don't adhere to social distancing, you are contravening the coronavirus act
2 completely different things |
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these fixed penalty notices work in the same way that speeding tickets work
speeding on the road is not breaking the law its contravening the road traffic act if your speeding causes an accident that injures/kill another person or harms their property, then that's breaking the law understand the difference? most people don't |
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They just get points don't they? for speeding that is
I have no argument to idiot drivers, if they're caught acting pillocks on the road remove their licence, I agree with strict rules in regards to that |
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Wonder
I hope you are telling the truth are not spreading misinformation about the government's response to this virus. The people at Parliament.uk clearly think that an act of Parliament is used to create/ amend laws. The Members of Parliament were under the impression that after the Act passed it would be enforced by police/ courts & fines could be given for breaking the law. The police are under the impression that it is against the law to be out of the house without good reason and/or in a group. Perhaps wonder it is worth letting these groups of people know that it is fine to ignore this act of Parliament because you don't think it is the law. You haven't even bothered to provide any evidence as to why Parlaiment.uk are incorrect- just checking you are not spreading misinformation on the subject.. |
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SS
You can also be fined & lose your driving license for speeding depends on how much over tge speed limit you are. |
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https://youtu.be/OD7jNQdk2Yc
Here's another masterpiece during all this a 1 day old baby died of it, only to find out it was "covid complications", whereby the mother went into premature labour after 22 weeks and the baby died  But that's a "covid death" so fack it eh |
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The media need shutting down, I've been screaming that for years
How they are allowed to get away with their ridiculous hysteria and fake news is quite disgusting on so many levels BBC/Fox/ITV/CNN etc etc, and all the rag papers need culling, close the absolute pr*** down and lets get back to some normality for the first time 50 years |
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"breaking the law" isn't a legal term so I have no idea what point he is trying to make. AFAIK the only important issue with an offence under legislation passed by parliament is that the police have to tell you what offence you are committing.
There are various offences detailed in the Coronavirus Act eg A person commits an offence if the person— (a)fails without reasonable excuse to comply with any direction, reasonable instruction, requirement or restriction given to or imposed on the person under this Part of this Schedule, (b)fails without reasonable excuse to comply with a duty under paragraph 62(1) or (2) (duties of individuals who have responsibility for a child), (c)absconds or attempts to abscond while being removed to or kept at a place under this Part of this Schedule, (d)knowingly provides false or misleading information in response to a requirement to provide information under this Part of this Schedule or otherwise in connection with the exercise of any power under this Part of this Schedule, or (e)obstructs a person who is exercising or attempting to exercise a power conferred by this Part of this Schedule. |
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"breaking the law" isn't a legal term
- But it's a damned good Judas Priest song. |
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Wonder once again thanks for not bothering to provide any links to back up the "legal principles" which Parliament overlooked.
Maybe a good idea if people just follow Government/ medical advice on social distancing. Then their actions will be both legal and lawful & won't be taken to court or fined. Is a fairly simple message- avoid meeting people outside household, stay at home . unfortunately nearly a thousand people are dying every day in UK so these restrictions may be in place for a while. Wonder - do you have any problems with following the advice. I assume you understand what tge advice is & tge reason for the advice. |
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Maybe a good idea if people just follow Government/ medical advice on social distancing
glad we've got there, finally |