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UK projected to have the most deaths in Europe
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what annoys me is why people go along with this midddle class hysterical bull sh1t and why do they vote for these R soles?
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Feckhas Dorris died moisok?
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Yesterday sky even owned up to the numbers not being 24 hour death stats ffs
only 140 of them were in the previous 24 hours, and all of them were elderly or with underlying health conditions We really are seeing an attempted take over and its so pathetically botched its quite entertaining viewing, bringing in idiots to sell it like Tara Jane Langston just about sums this whole charade up Just look at the Americans, one telling us its bathrooms causing it, we need to close all the bathrooms down She's just lost her daughter and she's more interested in the go fund me page and the removing of public rest rooms |
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the important thing is I ain't got it and my merc needs to go in for service before I go on my holidays
one needs to get a proper perspective on these things |
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do you think a vicious opposite the narrative go fund me campaign might work
yah know - fk the masks for the nhs and all that coz clearly no one is concerned about these poor old underpaid mugs being exposed to failing 80 year olds would you go into work in a bin bag and face all this crap and then have your job threatened if you said owt about it |
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Average age in Italy for eg of those that died was 79.5 years old but of course if any government does nothing it is seen to be a murdering bunch of uncaring butchers so once one nation goes into lockdown the rest follow. The economic consequences are likely to kill just as many but of course this will all be staggered over time which is infinitely more preferable to any government
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Wolf the virus is real
But that's the joke "asymptomatic" we are always that until we are sick  |
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Everyone has this virus
And I do mean everyone, the whole world has it |
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there is one forumite on here who is in favour of depopulating the uk
you reddit here first |
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Fook talking about the figures on the virus for one minute, how are the figures on domestic abuse going up supposed to be correct??? If these poor people couldn't phone, text, e-mail for help a month ago when presumably they had a degree of breathing space, how the fook are they managing it with their tormentors locked up with them all day and night?
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Before releasing the lock down they need to know for a FACT how many have HAD the illness, that way they will know how many potential VICTIMS are being released back into circulation and it looks like we are way away from anti body tests being rolled out across the nation, if the number that have had it is way fewer than hoped for then we are heading for disaster.
The curve is flattening at the moment as the lock down measures begin to kick in, but it only means something when the curve is still flattening once everything is back to normal and it is shown that the virus is negligible once it has access to all. Talk of the curve flattening at the moment could be the biggest false positive of all. |
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meanwhile in Sweden curve flattening still means women wanting to tone up for summer.
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When we hear of deaths of people with underlying conditions, where is it stated that these underlying conditions are conditions that render that person half dead to begin with?
People are just assuming that because it suits a certain narrative when in reality it could be any underlying condition. The 1.5 million high risk are for the most part all locked up, certainly no-one is going to believe they are all the victims that have died, so you can assume that the people that have died are general people with general conditions. |
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They want everybody exposed (apart from the fogies) but in an orderly fashion
That way you don't have to wait for a cure The number of deaths and how we attribute them is a red herring Got to think that Cheltenham festival was absolutely dripping with Chinese flu However it might eventually mean our curve drops a lot quicker |
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If you are admitted to hospital and you test positive for corona virus
Then you die from a symptom of corona virus, I think it's fair enough to say that's what killed you |
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 I think Dirty Di has had a few of her fat fingers in these computations |
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The more I read about this, I reckon a massive number of people might have already been infected and not realised. Apart from NHS staff (quite rightly of course), the majority of tests are only being carried out on people who are being admitted to hospital (for both COVID and non-COVID symptoms) or attending A&E. Kenny Dalglish is a prime example of this and hasn't shown any obvious COVID symptons, but has tested positive, even though he is in hospital for an infection. It makes me wonder how many other people would test positive if there were enough testing kits. The data is totally distorted due to the lack of mass testing. If everybody had been tested we would probably discover a much higher percentage of the population has been (or is) infected than we realised. This would then give us a true picture of the mortality rate, which would likely be much lower than is being publicised. I'm not trying to downplay the seriousness of this, but if the true mortality rate was known, we might view this in a completely different way. As it stands, the official statistics say that roughly 74,000 have tested positive, of which 9,000 have sadly passed away. That is a mortality rate of about 12%. The true number of positive tests (if we had enough testing equipment) could easily be double that, which would mean a mortality rate of only 6%.
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The mortality rate is not the issue, it never is in a pandemic. The overwhelming of hospitals is the issue and the UK isn't there yet but it is expected to be in a week. When that happens the mortality rate jumps to a much higher level. That is what the lockdown is for, to minimise the length of time that goes on for, not because the disease is particularly deadly like Ebola, because it kills a lot more at a much higher rate when they can't get treatment.
The mortality rate could be below 1% for all we know. But because it can potentially infect the entire population rapidly over a short period, it has the potential to overwhelm the hospitals. At this point the only relevance of a lot of people having been infected is that they might be immune and lockdown can be released earlier than expected, not the death rate. But nobody has even started testing for that. Death rate is largely irrelevant to the current situation, not that there is any accurate data on it. |
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If the real figures are released next week we are going to see over a 1,000 deaths everyday with all the backlogue fro resthomes etc,certainly won't be goig back in may,maybe looking at june.
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"The mortality rate could be below 1% for all we know"
The death rate in Iceland is currently under 0.5% and they have the most comprehensive testing of anywhere in the world, and even they are going to miss a huge percentage. It's a question of balancing that against the number of people currently positive who will end up dying. But personally I would be amazed if the death rate is over 1%. Could be a lot less than 1%. |
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I've always maintained that deaths as a result of the economic restricions on the world's economy will dwarf the number of deaths from the virus.
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We are going about it the right way, with things like this.....
This is my e-mail to all local radio stations, the police, and my MP..... (I only picked up on this last night, so too late to wrangle with SDC now) Good day, I am totally astonished and angry to read this from Selby District Council! "Markets Update" "Both the Monday Market and monthly Farmers Market will be open as normal. We are proactively managing the markets layouts to provide as much space between stalls, traders and the public. We are following Government guidelines and in contact with the National Association of British Markets to get the most up to date guidance to ensure the safety of the traders and the public". This breeches every single instruction from central government! Stay at home to stop coronavirus spreading Everyone must stay at home to help stop the spread of coronavirus. "You should only leave your home for very limited purposes: Shopping for basic necessities, for example food and medicine, which must be as infrequent as possible One form of exercise a day, for example a run, walk, or cycle – alone or with members of your household Any medical need, including to donate blood, avoid or escape risk of injury or harm, or to provide care or to help a vulnerable person Travelling for work purposes, but only where you cannot work from home Stay 2ms apart"..... Shops, restaurants and all recreational facilities are all closed... The Lake District is closed!! "Coronavirus: UK bans gatherings of more than two people, Boris Johnson announces" I do not frequent this market as a regular occurence, but I'm going to suggest that there must be circa 300 to500 people there at any one time, and with visitors 'rotating' throughout the day! Perhaps 1,000 or more visitors! They, and the traders will come from a very wide area, and the risk of infection is massive! What is the potential likelihood of at least one person carrying the infection? I would suggest it is very high, and I would also suggest that the possibility is that this one stupid event could cost hundreds of lives! Unfortunately I only picked up on this yesterday, so too late to wrangle with SDC, but I will be submitting this to every radio station and, for what it may be worth, the police, and I would urge you to please broadcast to your listeners that they must not attend! Best regards, ......(resident of Gateforth, Selby) nb Chit Chatters...my name is not withheld |
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Gigg is loving this he even admitted as much on the horse racing forum
I personally am starting to question if they're even testing anyone, no one within 3 mile of me has been tested and they don't of anyone who has been tested The odd one is convinced they've had it but most haven't even had 1 symptom in weeks |
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My neighbour had a mighty cough for about 3 weeks but that's cleared up and he's back fixing up his car on the driveway
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unbelievable and frightening
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Agree the opening article is unbelievable. That's because it's bollox.
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In terms of death per million, in the market without San Marino, I'd say Belgium looks like being the hardest hit. Today's death figures in Belgium translate to the worst daily figure of any major country in Europe. The death rate in San Marino is over 0.1% of the population. If we say that up to half the population of San Marino have been infected, and there will be more deaths, that would mean a lowest death rate estimate of 0.25%
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how do you get to half the population of san marino has been infected ???
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Spain down to 272 new deaths today, that is encouraging (although I'm not sure if they update it every 2 hours or whatever, or if it is a final figure for the day) On the other hand, Italy's daily mortality figures are still remaiming high. Not sure whether to be optimistic or not, tbh.
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Spain does a morning update followed by a late update, not done yet.
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A level headed explanation of what has happened, why there should be no panic, why the stats you read and quote are so wrong.
You've spent hours watching the news bs and checking the number of deaths on worldometers, take 30 minutes to watch a clear breakdown of the illness and the madness surrounding it, no conspiracy theory bs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYWWvSTQkNI |
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I said up to half Eric. It's an arbitary figure I based on their death rate and figures from Iceland.
I sent an email to the BBC and Sky News a week or so ago suggesting it as being the best sample for an early comprehensive antibody test. |
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Another "not much worse than the flu" merchant.
Runs a runs a private website about narcissistic personality disorder which is described as "a personality disorder characterized by a long-term pattern of exaggerated feelings of self-importance, an excessive need for admiration, and a lack of empathy toward other people". Does he run the website to present himself as an extreme sufferer of narcissistic personality disorder  |
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San Marino - population 33,931
35 reported COVID-19 deaths, 356 reported cases. |
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I haven't listened to the guy for long enough to make a fair assessment of what he is saying. But it's clear that most of the 800 or so comments are from people for whom he is telling the truth, or at least the truth as they want it to be.
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When the figures banded about are so meaningless, when testing isn't anywhere close to comprehensive, it's a question of taking the best data there is. Which imo is The Diamond Princess and Iceland. That's how I don't see a death rate above 1%. The death figures from the likes of Bergamo and San Marino suggest to me the infection rate from those areas is huge.
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Maybe you should watch it all before commenting, if you dared to check, you'd know he is highly qualified to give his opinion and cites many other experts. But if you rely on Sky news to make your mind up for you, that's your bag I guess.
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