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in his ss uniform and jack boots,start as you intend to carry on
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Report HGS April 7, 2020 5:04 PM BST
He isn't the best at the podium for sure. Almost struggling to read some of it.
Report casemoney April 7, 2020 5:10 PM BST
I would doubt that very much ,I believe his father was Jewish ,and had to flee from the Nazis during the War Aged 6,he also died when Mr Raab was young , His grandparents and other relatives were murdered during the Holocaust,But just keep on posting shyte about people,
seems to be acceptable on Here...You should think before you type your pathetic utterances ...
Report casemoney April 7, 2020 5:10 PM BST
You must be a Denier POSTER , Are you ???
Report 1st time poster April 7, 2020 5:11 PM BST
improved in a week was licking the lectern and papers last week, guests ran off in case he started licking them
Report casemoney April 7, 2020 5:14 PM BST
You need to contact Betfair and get this Post removed or I will ??

You wouldnt want a ban would you ???  I suggest you get on to them ASAP
Report casemoney April 7, 2020 5:14 PM BST
GET IT REMOVED ???
Report boxingthefox April 7, 2020 5:19 PM BST
Q, How sick can a person be...A as sick as 1st time poster.

what a nob=head
Report Reynard April 7, 2020 5:21 PM BST
Very , very poor Sad
Report politicspunter April 7, 2020 5:23 PM BST
Did he get the legal expenses off that family who had the temerity to want someone prosecuted for killing their son?
Report casemoney April 7, 2020 5:26 PM BST
I have not a clue what you are on about , but if you agree that people can make posts like this on the Forum PP you need help mate ...
Report casemoney April 7, 2020 5:28 PM BST
There is Banter and attacks from Both Sides , There is a Line , it has been Crossed END OF ...
Report Reynard April 7, 2020 5:28 PM BST
Some need help , some are beyond help Plain
Report 1st time poster April 7, 2020 5:31 PM BST
what line,he,s known as the hardmen of the right,chingford skinheads reincarnation,he thrives on the reputation
Report politicspunter April 7, 2020 5:32 PM BST
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-50501097

Dominic Raab in action.
Report casemoney April 7, 2020 5:32 PM BST
Totally unneeded .....  A twitter account or the Like would be shut down for such a post

Anyway I have said my peace , and I don't report people perhaps best let it drop off the page

for all concerned ..Rediculous post ...
Report duffy April 7, 2020 5:33 PM BST
Press conferences with Raab are shocking, he's like a rabbit in the headlights
Report casemoney April 7, 2020 5:36 PM BST
They Sued the government FFS , hardly the tories fault  the Killer claims DU ??

What were they meant to do ?? Police officers have been shot dead from Embassies nothing could

be done , TRUMP should have sent her back ....
Report 1st time poster April 7, 2020 5:37 PM BST
how do you shame a man who labled femINISTS ,OBNOXIOUS,
lied in the face of dead harry dunns parents,
writes books about the uk worker been lazy,feckless,greedy etc
Report casemoney April 7, 2020 5:38 PM BST
Yes agree he looks bang in trouble on the Podium , but with Boris condition over the weekend

Hardly surprising , who is next in line if Raab falls ill ?
Report Baphornet April 7, 2020 5:39 PM BST
Gove
Report 1st time poster April 7, 2020 5:39 PM BST
larry
Report Baphornet April 7, 2020 5:40 PM BST
much better in front of the press is Gove, Raab is far too honest - for an MP that is
Report 1st time poster April 7, 2020 5:42 PM BST
harry dunn,s parents might give you a decent argument,looked them in the eyes and lied for England without blushing
Report InsiderTrader April 7, 2020 5:44 PM BST
The PM is fighting for his life and people like Politics Punter and 1st Time Poster keep up their vile anti-government attacks from their keyboards.

Pray for Boris.
Report Baphornet April 7, 2020 5:44 PM BST
one cannot make such assumptions based on one alleged conversation; there is far more proof of his honesty
Report duffy April 7, 2020 5:45 PM BST
Doesn't inspire confidence, he was desperately wriggling away from having to say..."I am in charge"

When pressed on what happens when there are disagreements, he basically just made out that we know the plan we will all agree...shocking stuff really!
Report casemoney April 7, 2020 5:46 PM BST
The Woman who killed him is an Rsole , She should have been sent back to face the Music

A tragic case for the family , As I sated there has been a lot more cases than this case with

DU , protecting the perp , We had a mass rapist in one Embassy ...
Report politicspunter April 7, 2020 5:47 PM BST

Apr 7, 2020 -- 5:42PM, 1st time poster wrote:


harry dunn,s parents might give you a decent argument,looked them in the eyes and lied for England without blushing


Yep , there was a 37% swing against him in his constituency at the general election as folks tried to unseat him but he held on.

Report flushgordon1 April 7, 2020 5:49 PM BST
It's good to see Dave Starmer has eliminated the auntie semitism in the filthy Labour Party.
Report Cider April 7, 2020 5:58 PM BST
I always felt there was always a bad taste from the family side from the start with that publicist type Radd Seiger on the scene. It always felt like they were chasing litigation eventually, and so it turned out. They went all the way to the US, and then turned down the opportunity to meet Sacoolas. The Mum Charlotte said she didn't even want Sacoolas to go to jail. Clearly it was a genuine accident, extreme bad luck for Harry wrong place wrong time. Clearly Sacoolas shouldn't have fled the country but her coming back to a UK trial to get a likely suspended sentence only to fly home again wasn't going to achieve anything. If she was drunk or banned or driving deliberately recklessly on purpose it would have been more understandable, but it was a pure accident.
Report 1st time poster April 7, 2020 6:08 PM BST
wonder what doris was thinking when he arranged for 2 London hard men to knock 10 bales of shoite out of a journo for writing the truth about doris
Report politicspunter April 7, 2020 6:09 PM BST

Apr 7, 2020 -- 5:58PM, Cider wrote:


I always felt there was always a bad taste from the family side from the start with that publicist type Radd Seiger on the scene. It always felt like they were chasing litigation eventually, and so it turned out. They went all the way to the US, and then turned down the opportunity to meet Sacoolas. The Mum Charlotte said she didn't even want Sacoolas to go to jail. Clearly it was a genuine accident, extreme bad luck for Harry wrong place wrong time. Clearly Sacoolas shouldn't have fled the country but her coming back to a UK trial to get a likely suspended sentence only to fly home again wasn't going to achieve anything. If she was drunk or banned or driving deliberately recklessly on purpose it would have been more understandable, but it was a pure accident.


A pure accident? Driving dangerously on the wrong side of the road before killing someone isn't an "accident".

Report flushgordon1 April 7, 2020 6:10 PM BST
Apparently 5 guys a week is not a documentary on Angela Rayners schooldays.
Report politicspunter April 7, 2020 6:10 PM BST
That case showed that Boris, Raab and co are Trumps puppets.
Report Cider April 7, 2020 6:12 PM BST

Apr 7, 2020 -- 6:09PM, politicspunter wrote:


Apr  7, 2020 --  4:58PM, Cider wrote:I always felt there was always a bad taste from the family side from the start with that publicist type Radd Seiger on the scene. It always felt like they were chasing litigation eventually, and so it turned out. They went all the way to the US, and then turned down the opportunity to meet Sacoolas. The Mum Charlotte said she didn't even want Sacoolas to go to jail. Clearly it was a genuine accident, extreme bad luck for Harry wrong place wrong time. Clearly Sacoolas shouldn't have fled the country but her coming back to a UK trial to get a likely suspended sentence only to fly home again wasn't going to achieve anything. If she was drunk or banned or driving deliberately recklessly on purpose it would have been more understandable, but it was a pure accident.A pure accident? Driving dangerously on the wrong side of the road before killing someone isn't an "accident".


Of course it was an accident. You think she chose to drive on the wrong side of the road on purpose. Could happen to anyone driving in a foreign country. Lapse of concentration, with lethal consequences.

Report politicspunter April 7, 2020 6:12 PM BST
And you think it was an accident?
Report Cider April 7, 2020 6:13 PM BST
That's what I said. It was an accident.
Report 1st time poster April 7, 2020 6:14 PM BST
this is a man who encouraged everyone to carry on shaking hands as 7,000 had died in Italy,and as Italians were begging him to close the country down,he went on live tv shaking hands with presenters against their wishes,he went to wales live on tv shaking hands,he sat next to naddine dorris on the front bench,his father encouraged everyone to foook the government and go to the pub to get pished,he encouraged people to go to work fill the tubes up,go to Cheltenham,go to epl football matches, and now shames mam and dad sunbathing in a park with the kidsz whilst practicing social distancing
Report sofiakenny April 7, 2020 6:14 PM BST
Cider how the f do you know she was sober??
Report politicspunter April 7, 2020 6:15 PM BST
If a UK national had been driving on the wrong side of the road in the USA and killed someone, then fled from justice to the UK, you can bet your last American dollar that Trump would have snapped his fingers and Boris would have handed the fugitive over instantly.
Report Cider April 7, 2020 6:17 PM BST
In a statement this morning, Chief Constable Nick Adderley from Northamptonshire police said “When I look back at how the police have dealt with this so far, I can say that if the circumstances remained the same and the same again happened, we would take the same course of action. I would not change the way that police have dealt with this to date.”

Police interviewed and breathalysed Anne Sacoolas, wife of an American diplomat at the scene, but did not arrest her. She left the country citing diplomatic immunity and has since admitted to driving on the wrong side of the road and hitting the teenage motorcyclist.
Report politicspunter April 7, 2020 6:18 PM BST
She didn't have diplomatic immunity and was instructed not to leave the country.
Report sofiakenny April 7, 2020 6:19 PM BST
Sry Cider I didn't know that.
Report InsiderTrader April 7, 2020 6:21 PM BST
politicspunter
07 Apr 20 17:10
Joined: 20 Mar 18
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That case showed that Boris, Raab and co are Trumps puppets.

^

Grow up and stop insulting our Prime Minster who is fighting for his life. Show some common human decency for once in your life.
Report Baphornet April 7, 2020 6:22 PM BST
crags was always a runt
Report Cider April 7, 2020 6:24 PM BST
It's not the point is it pp. It was an accident, so if she had stayed or not she wouldn't have faced jail, the family didn't want her to face jail. So getting a driving ban in a country you're not living in doesn't help anyone. Sacoolas will be living with the mistake that she knows killed someone for the rest of her life.
Report 1st time poster April 7, 2020 6:24 PM BST
the right surely don't want every post about diane abbot when she was unwell put back up do they,opr all the posts about Corbyn, murderer blair,should be charged in the hague etc etc
Report politicspunter April 7, 2020 6:25 PM BST
It wasn't an accident, please stop claiming it was.
Report InsiderTrader April 7, 2020 6:26 PM BST
1st time poster
07 Apr 20 17:24
Joined: 25 Dec 05
| Topic/replies: 38,223 | Blogger: 1st time poster's blog
the right surely don't want every post about diane abbot when she was unwell put back up do they,opr all the posts about Corbyn, murderer blair,should be charged in the hague etc etc

^

None of those people are in ICU fighting for their lives.

Please just be a little bit human.
Report Cider April 7, 2020 6:27 PM BST
Accident:

an unfortunate incident that happens unexpectedly and unintentionally, typically resulting in damage or injury.
Report politicspunter April 7, 2020 6:28 PM BST
Dangerous driving-driving on wrong side of the road. It was no accident.
Report 1st time poster April 7, 2020 6:29 PM BST
you have no idea what abbotts health was and according to the bloke in charge raab,doris is fine ,in good spirits and not attached to any mechanical machine,or are you suggesting raabs lying
Report politicspunter April 7, 2020 6:29 PM BST
And what's more, no one is claiming it was an accident (apart from you).
Report Cider April 7, 2020 6:31 PM BST
It's quite possible to drive dangerously and unintentionally. Such as a foreigner driving on the wrong side of the road.
Report InsiderTrader April 7, 2020 6:32 PM BST
1st time poster
07 Apr 20 17:29
Joined: 25 Dec 05
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you have no idea what abbotts health was and according to the bloke in charge raab,doris is fine ,in good spirits and not attached to any mechanical machine,or are you suggesting raabs lying

^

Sorry last time I checked the news Abbott was not in ICU and also was not been insulted on this forum.
Report politicspunter April 7, 2020 6:33 PM BST
Oh, she was driving dangerously ok. So dangerously that she killed someone. Then to cap it all she claimed diplomatic immunity (which she didn't have) and fled the country after assuring the police she wouldn't.
Report 1st time poster April 7, 2020 6:34 PM BST
no insults from me on here, not giving the 2 faced right wing Brexit loons a tap in
Report Cider April 7, 2020 6:37 PM BST
We talking about the incident itself. What you don't seem to appreciate is that people drive on the wrong side of the road accidentally all the time. It's just horrible timing and unfortunate coincidence that this time it ended in a fatality.
Report Cider April 7, 2020 6:40 PM BST
Look at any dash cam video compilation on you tube. Almost every one of them will include footage of someone driving on the wrong side of the road.
Report politicspunter April 7, 2020 6:43 PM BST
Driving on the wrong side of the road and killing someone is not an accident. Hopefully someone doesn't do the same to one of your family.
Report flushgordon1 April 7, 2020 6:43 PM BST
Miss Diane said she hopes Boris recovers soon from the Covid twelvty.
Report politicspunter April 7, 2020 6:48 PM BST
http://www.nopenaltypoints.co.uk/careless-dangerous-driving-fines.html

Common Examples of Dangerous Driving
Dangerous driving is a very serious offence and the term can cover many different situations. Common examples of dangerous driving will include driving too fast on a busy road, driving on the wrong side of the road, driving with Faulty Brakes and driving with unsecured loads. If the police are charging that the driver’s vehicle is in a dangerous condition then they must prove that the driver was aware of this. This can also be proven if the dangerous condition of the vehicle would have been apparent to a competent driver.
Report nineteen points April 7, 2020 6:51 PM BST
if boris is fighting for his life,and i hope he isnt,then someone needs to up his treatment,no oxygen or ventilator
Report Cider April 7, 2020 6:51 PM BST

Apr 7, 2020 -- 6:43PM, politicspunter wrote:


Driving on the wrong side of the road and killing someone is not an accident. Hopefully someone doesn't do the same to one of your family.


I don't know what this discussion has to do with my family, you are clearly a sick individual.

Report politicspunter April 7, 2020 6:55 PM BST
http://www.nopenaltypoints.co.uk/careless-dangerous-driving-fines.html

Common Examples of Dangerous Driving
Dangerous driving is a very serious offence and the term can cover many different situations. Common examples of dangerous driving will include driving too fast on a busy road, driving on the wrong side of the road, driving with Faulty Brakes and driving with unsecured loads. If the police are charging that the driver’s vehicle is in a dangerous condition then they must prove that the driver was aware of this. This can also be proven if the dangerous condition of the vehicle would have been apparent to a competent driver.

Feel free to comment on this Cider.
Report 1st time poster April 7, 2020 6:57 PM BST
you've got to love the right wing loons on here when real life gets in the way of their spreadsheets
1ooo,s of posts day after day
what did they die of,proof,autopsy,evidence
thousands die everyday
cant stop the country to save lives
if your times up,your times up
most would have died anyway,even when 13 yr old was dying

now when their guru, who  broke every virus,social distancing rule in the book is in hospital,their lighting candles,praying, wanting a minutes clap for doris,,yet the nearly 6000 and up to 20,000 more were a price that had to be paid 72 hrs ago,
Report duffy April 7, 2020 7:04 PM BST
Causing death by dangerous driving, straight forward, being stupid shouldn't excuse it.
Report wolf3011 April 7, 2020 7:08 PM BST
Manslaughter is technically an accident , you still do jail time. She should have been charged , convicted and jailed- you can't drive on the wrong side of the road, mow someone down and just bugger off facing no consequences
Report casemoney April 7, 2020 7:12 PM BST
Been Many Vehicular accidents ,involving Drivers with DU , many killed ,really not sure what this has to do with Calling people who have had their family Members Murdered by the Nazis ,SS Members ...


The thread itself could cause Betfair Problems , not sure if its legal to be accusing MPs

of Being SS members ??
Report duffy April 7, 2020 7:12 PM BST
how much loss of life down the years was caused by accidents, people were still negligent and therefore culpable and went to prison as a result, as this woman should have in this case.
Report wolf3011 April 7, 2020 7:14 PM BST

Apr 7, 2020 -- 7:12PM, casemoney wrote:


Been Many Vehicular accidents ,involving Drivers with DU , many killed ,really not sure what this has to do with Calling people who have had their family Members Murdered by the Nazis ,SS Members ... The thread itself could cause Betfair Problems , not sure if its legal to be accusing MPs of Being SS members ??


Agreed but society is full of these d1cks not just on here

Report casemoney April 7, 2020 7:20 PM BST
Duffy that is the Down to the U.S surely , had the women been British she would have been Charged

What was Britain meant to do ???
Report thegiggilo April 7, 2020 7:22 PM BST
Rabb one of the biggest lowlifes in parliament..
Report casemoney April 7, 2020 7:22 PM BST
Not sure it would matter what party were in power ? How could they override DU ??

Are people suggesting a snatch squad be sent in ??
Report wolf3011 April 7, 2020 7:23 PM BST
legally probably nothing but there are posters arguing on a moral basis she shouldnt be charged as she would receive a suspended sentence which isn't accurate either in law or on any basic level of morality.
Report wolf3011 April 7, 2020 7:24 PM BST
if one of us went to the states , drove on the left running someone over on the correct side of the road and then did a runner... would you expect jail time? I certainly would
Report casemoney April 7, 2020 7:25 PM BST
Rabb one of the biggest lowlifes in parliament..


I know very little of the Man,and you cant'even spell his name  , but no shortage of that

description sitting bang opposite him IMVHO.
Report casemoney April 7, 2020 7:28 PM BST
Its wrong wolf , Sadly there have been many wrongs covered by  DU ....

Was there not a simular carry on involving Lockerbie ??
Report wolf3011 April 7, 2020 7:30 PM BST
Probably, I dont have an opinion on the man either and would agree he cant be held solely accountable for legislation
Report thegiggilo April 7, 2020 7:31 PM BST
You know little of him exactly,but always have opinions on everything you presume rught..To quote rabb

NHS-It's just a wish list
Foodbanks- No one is in poverty
I don't beieve in economic,social or human rights..Shocked
Wants to make things easier for bosses to sack people..

I'm sure you will agree scum of the earth..
Report wolf3011 April 7, 2020 7:34 PM BST
post his full speech with those comments in so we can see them in context instead of cheap snipes and maybe an opinion can be offered- I suspect as always he never stated those things as you infer in the manner you have posted
Report wolf3011 April 7, 2020 7:34 PM BST
I'd love to see his speech entitled " no one is in poverty " - waits*
Report thegiggilo April 7, 2020 7:46 PM BST
People that languishing in poverty are just people with a cashflow problem,i'm sure you could find numerous oters these are mainstrwam tory ideologies nowadays in some woerd and twisted way anyway..
Report 1st time poster April 7, 2020 7:46 PM BST
femminists are obnoxious
uk workers are greedy,lazy moaners
Report wolf3011 April 7, 2020 7:48 PM BST

Apr 7, 2020 -- 7:46PM, 1st time poster wrote:


femminists are obnoxiousuk workers are greedy,lazy moaners


Feminists are obnoxious, he's spot on and compared to many countries particularly in asia , Uk productivity levels are amongst the lowest in the world which is statistically measured.. is that it?

Report wolf3011 April 7, 2020 7:49 PM BST
I'm not sure how those two things warrants a thread talking about him being a nazi implying he is coming out with a swastika on his forehead and Goebbels great grandson alongside him for a family picnic
Report wolf3011 April 7, 2020 7:54 PM BST
The problem is society has turned it's back on Labour and their hard left communism manifesto, they are sick of the EU and it's money draining bureaucrats dictating uk laws and a few people express their rage by targeting their perceived figures of " right wing ideology " by ridiculous melodramatic statements bearing no semblance to reality as they can't handle it as we can see from this thread
Report 1st time poster April 7, 2020 7:59 PM BST
the tory,s are rolling out labour,s manifesto on steroids,nhs workers,cleaners,binmen,transport workers are hero,s public want them all to get pay rises,, WERE ALL LEFTIES NOW ,THERE IS NO RIGHTWING PARTY LaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report wolf3011 April 7, 2020 8:00 PM BST

Apr 7, 2020 -- 7:59PM, 1st time poster wrote:


the tory,s are rolling out labour,s manifesto on steroids,nhs workers,cleaners,binmen,transport workers are hero,s public want them all to get pay rises,, WERE ALL LEFTIES NOW ,THERE IS NO RIGHTWING PARTY


ok

Report politicspunter April 7, 2020 8:06 PM BST
This is actually a very good point. This whole crisis may mean that in the future it's going to be much more difficult for the tories to reduce financial support to the nhs and public services.
Report InsiderTrader April 7, 2020 8:16 PM BST
thegiggilo
07 Apr 20 18:31
Joined: 04 Aug 07
| Topic/replies: 14,507 | Blogger: thegiggilo's blog
You know little of him exactly,but always have opinions on everything you presume rught..To quote rabb

NHS-It's just a wish list
Foodbanks- No one is in poverty
I don't beieve in economic,social or human rights..Shocked
Wants to make things easier for bosses to sack people..

I'm sure you will agree scum of the earth..

^

You still going on about this nonsense when our PM is in ICU. You should ashamed of yourself.
Report InsiderTrader April 7, 2020 8:20 PM BST
politicspunter
07 Apr 20 19:06
Joined: 20 Mar 18
| Topic/replies: 12,278 | Blogger: politicspunter's blog
This is actually a very good point. This whole crisis may mean that in the future it's going to be much more difficult for the tories to reduce financial support to the nhs and public services.

^

You voted Tories when the 'cuts' were happening under the coalition and May.

You voted Brexit which Boris was the main cheerleader for.

You despise Boris because you cannot accept his lifestyle choices (and lost money/did not make as much as you wanted on him winning) even though he has increased NHS spending massively.
Report wolf3011 April 7, 2020 8:21 PM BST

Apr 7, 2020 -- 8:06PM, politicspunter wrote:


This is actually a very good point. This whole crisis may mean that in the future it's going to be much more difficult for the tories to reduce financial support to the nhs and public services.


Who was in power when the Uk opened its borders up to every waif and stray putting population figures through the roof stretching the NHS beyond breaking point Confused

Report politicspunter April 7, 2020 8:27 PM BST
First of all I need to say to folks on chit chat that insider trader is a total fanny. He follows me about from the politics forum from thread to thread, forum to forum, spouting total and utter pish about me. That is why I blocked him a very long time ago. Do not believe anything he posts about me as he is a clueless guesser.

wolf,

Now, irrespective of who was in charge and who did what and when, there is going to be a lot of support for the nhs and key workers throughout the country for a long time in the future and the tories know that and I am sure, will give a great deal of respect to public opinion.
Report casemoney April 7, 2020 8:28 PM BST
You know little of him exactly,but always have opinions on everything you presume rught.

Extremely sorry to find it Wrong that a mans who's family was slaughtered By nazis is Labelled a Nazi ...


OP should not have started the Thread with that Description IMVHO , On that note

I shall leave you tree Hugging brick throwers, to converse among yourselves ..

Thank You ..
Report thegiggilo April 7, 2020 8:37 PM BST
politicspunter 07 Apr 20 19:27 
First of all I need to say to folks on chit chat that insider trader is a total fanny. He follows me about from the politics forum from thread to thread, forum to forum, spouting total and utter pish about me. That is why I blocked him a very long time ago. Do not believe anything he posts about me as he is a clueless guesser.

wolf,

Now, irrespective of who was in charge and who did what and when, there is going to be a lot of support for the nhs and key workers throughout the country for a long time in the future and the tories know that and I am sure, will give a great deal of respect to public opinion


And the tory voters ain't alf going to hate that...Cool
Report duffy April 7, 2020 8:44 PM BST
A Govt statement will read, unfortunately there will be no pay rises for the Heroes on the frontline going forward, but I'm sure that they will take continuing heart from the round of applause the cabinet will give them once a week.
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