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By:
casemoney
When: 06 Apr 20 15:38
Prob about 440 when we get the other figures from around the UK
By:
HGS
When: 06 Apr 20 15:40
Can't be sure but think last Sunday and Monday were low in comparison to other days. (weekend results). Fear sky high number tomorrow and relieved if not.
By:
casemoney
When: 06 Apr 20 15:41
yes H Thought we would be at the thousand marker by now
By:
foxy
When: 06 Apr 20 15:53
2 in Scotland
By:
casemoney
When: 06 Apr 20 15:55
Finger crossed its at least Leveling out a bit ,we can only hope ....
By:
geordie1956
When: 06 Apr 20 16:11
small steps in the right direction ... lets hope it continues day on day
hopefully there will be some thought towards an ease of the lockdown in a few weeks ... it give hope towards an end position providing we maintain strict safeguards with social distancing & protection of the old and vulnerable
By:
casemoney
When: 06 Apr 20 16:13
I would say another 3/4 weeks as is , Really needing testing to be available
By:
lapsy pa
When: 06 Apr 20 16:14
(RIP). Hopefully no future big jumps, postive news in other countries with infection rates going down,Norway considers it almost under control.
By:
casemoney
When: 06 Apr 20 16:16
What was the Eire Figure LP ?? is that out yet ?
By:
lapsy pa
When: 06 Apr 20 16:22
No,about 7 usually, dare i say it,it seems as if it hasn't gone mad as such,clusters in hospitals/nursing homes the main worry.
By:
equine flew
When: 06 Apr 20 16:26
Yes a significant drop and interesting to see the UK death figures before the effects of the lockdown even begin to be seen.

Caution definitely advised, as you indicated over the last 3 weekends the Monday number (post weekend) has bucked the steady dialy rises trend.
By:
GAZO
When: 06 Apr 20 16:33
could it be something to do with how deaths are registered or not over the weekend ?
By:
Angoose
When: 06 Apr 20 16:37
439 the official UK figure for today, 3,802 new positive tests, down from 5,903 yesterday.
By:
Angoose
When: 06 Apr 20 16:41
By:
maleuk01.
When: 06 Apr 20 16:48
hopefully we will see a decline day on day now and the full result of the lockdown reduce the number of cases too.

Spain has had 4 day's on the spin of reduced deaths, which is a positive sign.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 06 Apr 20 17:00
Yeah but as someone pointed out last week its the weekend, expect a massive increase tomorrow, I'll say 900+ tomorrow with 6000+ cases
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 06 Apr 20 17:01
Wouldn't be surprised if it goes over 1000 either, absolute carnage incoming tomorrow in my opinion
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 06 Apr 20 17:12
So basically the deaths that happened at the weekend wont be added until tomorrow and Wednesday, that's how the numbers get messed around with
By:
Angoose
When: 06 Apr 20 17:29
Latest data from Italy.
Italy has recorded 132k positive test, 93k of these remain active.

By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 06 Apr 20 17:36
Italy doesn't seem to be improving at all

And they've been locked down for over 3 weeks
By:
Reynard
When: 06 Apr 20 17:38
Judging by above graphs it looks as though Italy peaked a couple of weeks ago .
Then again , graphs , statistics etc. ............... Plain
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 06 Apr 20 17:40
Still 700 deaths a day though that's not improvement
By:
Reynard
When: 06 Apr 20 17:42
Could be argued that 700 is an improvement on 900 , although I guess not if you're one of the 700 .
By:
Angoose
When: 06 Apr 20 17:53
Lots of talk about the virus reaching its peak, not so much talk about a definition of peak.

If you look at the Italian death rate for completed cases, it has remained reasonably consistent for some time.

On 10 March, they had recorded 631 deaths and 1,004 people had recovered, death rate of 38.6%.
By 20 March, this had changed to 4,032 deaths, 5,129 recovered, death rate of 44.0%.
By 31 March, this was 12,428, 15,729, 44.1%.
Today, 16,523, 22,837, 42.0%.

They currently have 93,187 active cases.
Quite scary if you apply the current death rate to that figure.

From 20 March to 31 March, there was a daily average of 5,396 new cases.
For the first six days of April, that has dropped to 4,459 new cases per day.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 06 Apr 20 18:00
The peak is the maximum number of new cases on a given day.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 06 Apr 20 18:01
The less critical cases the more people can be treated sufficently

Yet we are hearing majority of us don't ever experience symptoms

PlainPlain
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 06 Apr 20 18:04
Our peak hasn't hit yet, we'll probably hit it this weekend, it'll hover there for a bit and then steadily drop over the next 3 to 4 weeks

Italy are well passed the peak line? meaning we really should have already hit our peak but they moved the modelling data back
By:
Angoose
When: 06 Apr 20 18:11

Apr 6, 2020 -- 6:00PM, i_agree_with_nick wrote:


The peak is the maximum number of new cases on a given day.


Appears a reasonable definition to me, but the media focus is on deaths which can be anything from 5 to 30 days after hospitalization.

By:
Angoose
When: 06 Apr 20 18:14
Of course, when you are testing less than 10k per day, then suddenly jump to 100k per day, it would not be unreasonable to see a sharp rise in the number of new cases.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 06 Apr 20 18:19
A study in the Lancet estimated that travel restrictions in Wuhan caused R0 to drop from 2.35 to 1.05 after just one week.  (R0 being the reproductive rate.)

The R0 value needs to drop to below one to bring the outbreak under control.


From The Telegraph:

According to a pre-print study from the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine published this week, the average number of people an individual comes into contact with each day has dropped by 73 per cent since the UK’s lockdown began.

“This would be sufficient to reduce R0 from a value from 2.6 before the lockdown to 0.62 during the lockdown, indicating that physical distancing interventions are effective,” the study, which tracked over 1,300 adults and has not yet been peer reviewed, concluded.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 06 Apr 20 18:21
Of course, when you are testing less than 10k per day, then suddenly jump to 100k per day, it would not be unreasonable to see a sharp rise in the number of new cases.

Yes.  Maybe they'll keep two separate sets of figures?
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 06 Apr 20 18:32
Slowing hospital admission mind

They are going to look like total fools if they don't get to hospitalise anyone in that nightingale hospital
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 06 Apr 20 18:38
Are there figures available for hospital admissions?  I guess they'll be roughly in line with the number of cases (minus those that have been privately tested and not admitted.)
By:
onlooker
When: 06 Apr 20 18:43
Today's Daily Conference - opened by stating just that.

The New Cases are just 'Hospital Admissions'
By:
onlooker
When: 06 Apr 20 18:47
SontaranStratagem 06 Apr 20 17:32 

Slowing hospital admission mind

They are going to look like total fools if they don't get to hospitalise anyone in that nightingale hospital
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Typically CHEAP, biased, PREDICTABLE and unnecessary shot - by you Sontanstragem Cry

Most rational people would be delighted if the Nightingale Hospital was eventually NOT NEEDED.
By:
HGS
When: 06 Apr 20 19:10
Would be great if the Nightingale didn't need one patient.
By:
lapsy pa
When: 06 Apr 20 19:14
It would,looking at Italy though once you go into hospital,you aren't getting out quickly,it is very "prolonged" there.
I think the caution with above posters with todays figures are probably right.
By:
GoBallistic
When: 06 Apr 20 19:29
Wouldn't it make more sense to have the Nightingale full while keeping other surrounding hospitals as covid-free as possible ?
By:
Angoose
When: 06 Apr 20 20:24
I'm sure the medical experts have considered the best way to make use of an additional facility.
Remember, it is not a full blown hospital.
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