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Interesting Gus...Bayern resumed training today..a good sign.
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testing the public whever we receive the testing apparatus will be a massive game changer ... i read somewhere that anywhere from 0.5% to 5% may have had the virus in whatever form - so that could be 600 thousand up to 6 million ... i'd like to know if i have been subjected to it despite not feeling anything out of the ordinary
the equipment can help to direct resources and to identify hot spots and larger contagion areas ... one things for certain we need to do it properly as autumn / winter could give further concerns of another outbreak if we don't contain it now |
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Labor demanding to know the strategy
Have to wait for Boris to be better Which is going to be 2 weeks at least The Economy need to be stirring by June or else will be in the STONE AGE  |
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yoiuve got a short memory
we,re all prepared to take a financial hit for a good few years that's what the brexiteers used to tell us,prepared to lose their jobs, financial hit etc,so weve got at least 19 million volunteers if the government are looking for them |
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meanwhile priti patel greeting a flight from Rumania tomorrow with 180 fruit pickers aboard,priti must have give up her 8 million economically inactive plus the current millions of inactive workers
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NObody should be prepared to take the sort of financial hit we are likely to get from this. Its total madness.
Whats the point of getting through this and ending up with no NHS 10 million unemployed and a collapsed currency. |
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Agreed Dotch..this is total madness.Keep the oldies in for a bit longer but get the working population back to work pronto.Hitchens is spot on.
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suppose it depends you if you think people wopuld just carry on normal life, I,d suggest most of the companies relying on consumer spending would go anyway,airlines,holidays,epl football matches,etc the worlds changed be a long time before the general public will be prepared to part with their cash to sit amongst crowds pretending their enjoying themselves, pictures from spain n Italy today where those who did make use of relaxed measure looked like they were splitting some uranium ,going to be a long rd
leisure/entertainment industry are going to have to open up and wait to see how business goes before hiring staff rather than just take them straight back, luckily for those unemployed the tory,s have convinced everyone living on uni credit is a breeze piece of pish,bit of a jolly, they might be about to find out they've been spoon fed aload of shoite, remember just for Gideon give the curtains a twitch |
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Furlough scheme extended to end of June
Suggest quarantine to last a long time Or until we run out of MUNIE  |
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It's just a one month extension and has largely been driven by the threat of employers commencing the 45 day redundancy consultation process.
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Looking online the lockdown maybe continued longer in the worst hit areas
Converseley why cant the low hit areas be let off early e.g Southwest Very low figures  |
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ABOUT TIME HANCOCK GREW SOME BALLS AND ANSWERED
THERE IS NONE ....................AND THERE IS NOT ONE FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE sick of listening to Bollox questions getting Bollox answers ... |
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Provided the trends continue to improve over the next few days, I think the clamour for lock down to start being eased will now gain momentum.
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Did I hear correctly yesterday that one of criteria for coming out of lockdown was that there has to be no risk of a second wave/peak ?
If so, it does lead to an obvious question If you can prevent wave #2 when covid has already taken a stronghold, then why could you not prevent wave #1 when we started with zero cases ? Surely the only way there can be no risk of wave #2 is by herd immunity - either by a vaccine (could be 9 months away, could be never) or by enough people catching it (except we're on lockdown). Anyone know where they are going with this ? |
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I've mentioned this elsewhere it certainly needs explaining as it's a very loose objective with no obvious way of measuring it.
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I'm amazed none of the media seem to have jumped on it in the daily briefings tbh but then again everytime an exit is mentioned it's batted away with this is not the time so I think they've given up going down this line at present with their questions.
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If you test loads and track and trace contacts aggressively you can avoid a lockdown. S Korea and Japan did this and didn't have one.
But once you have let it get out of hand it's too late for that because you don't have enough human resources or tests to do that. So now you have to wait until your numbers return to very early stage levels and do that, take it seriously from day 1 which they should have done in the first place. The fact that they are already talking about lockdown release shows either 1) they are lying, fobbing off the public and lockdown will remain until we reach those levels which is a lot more than 2 weeks away or 2) they will release lockdown too early and probably have to reinstate it in some areas at least. |
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I don't think most of them have a clue and don't want to put their head on the chopping block ,they are desperately hoping the boss is fit soon.
The Prime Minister bulldozed through the remainers who did everything they could to stop Brexit. He will make the decision when he is fit. But without a vaccine, and one that is safe and able to be produced in millions of doses how do we go to back to normality safely. Without a vaccine (or the virus vanishing or evolving to a safer variant) elderly people and those with health issues are at risk of death by such mundane activities as a family wedding , religious gathering , catching the bus etc....... This would be the new norm. Try persuading people to work to 67 and contribute to pension funds with that future. |
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sixtowsix. Forget working to 67 for a pension. If we dont get back to work soon there will be no pensions at all.
Work til you drop is coming. |
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They got rid of SARS without a vaccine, but it hadn't spread nearly as much. There were only about 8-9k cases worldwide but the death rate was 10%. An effective vaccine may never be discovered. The best option might be to clamp down on cases on a worldwide basis until the virus dies off like SARS did. But so much co-ordination required for that to happen and not in a position to think about that until most countries get it under control a lot more than it is now.
Vaccines for coronaviruses have proven difficult to produce, they have never made one. They tried for years with the SARS one but never got there. And if immunity is short-lived a vaccine may not afford much protection either and the virus dying off might be the end of it rather than an effective one-off vaccine. They already increased pension age after 2008, so it will prob go up again after this. Everyone works for a few years because these mugs didn't take it seriously enough from day 1. |
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Brazil seemed to Have cracked 12 Deaths per million ,Trying cracking down on anything over there
The figures are more laughable than China's .. |
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Dutch Football
@FootballOranje_ · 1h Confirmed: No football in the Netherlands until September with or without an audience. Meaning it is now almost certain that the Eredivisie season cannot be finished . Decisions need to be made asap. |
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If you can prevent wave #2 when covid has already taken a stronghold, then why could you not prevent wave #1 when we started with zero cases ?
___________________ there was never a time when there was 'zero cases' ...by the time the Wuhan clan were put on those coaches at Brize Norton, the air was thick with covid and it was spreading all the time in pubs and stadia right under everyones noses ....quite literally |
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the horse had already bolted ... what should have been a 6F sprint is now a marathon
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And why are Holland planning on reopening schools but not doing football behind closed doors?
I mean what? |
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What about football for the under 14's.?
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We can't have our breadncircuses back dotch
But the kids can go back to indoctrination classes  |
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why football sonts ? ...not really an essential service ...be happy to see football cancelled for the next 10 years to be honest with you and see maybe 20/30 or so clubs go under... pigeons home to roost and all that
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