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Germany heading towards a police state?
Germany heading towards a police state?
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Germans absolutely love rules but they are I think not into being spied on?
Back when the authoritarian d1ckheads of the Blair government wanted to 1984 us with their ID card system, one of the major issues was it wasn't just an ID card it was to give an integrated tracking system to monitor and control what we could do and build up profiles of us with the card being just one part of it. As people would say at the time, the problem was really "the database". At the time anyway it was said the German ID card system was specifically to NOT do that, as they speifically did not want to create the sort of stassi style system the control freak creeps in New Labour wanted to create. So it was unfair to use their card as an example of how benign our system would be. So if that was true, there is an ethos there, due to history. If the germans produce a system that allows people immune to it to go about the business, it seems eminently sensible. I can't find the damned link but I watched an intersting video a week or two ago with a senior guy with the WHO I think it was discussing how as immmunity spread having say a wristband or whatever might be a good idea. I personally want a little light in all our palms. Activated by 5G  |
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 Will the wrist bands be all inclusive as well. Probably will be as everwhere we might want to go to is closed.  |
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when asked about german testing today cabinet minister grant schnapps basically said yeh but they havnt built a 4000 bed hospital in 2 weeks, poor sap no one had the heart to tell him ,they've no need to build one,
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If everyone over 60 was killed the health system would cope easily with Corona. It's the useless old waenkers making it look like the end of the world. What use exactly is someone above 60? I am for a fixed lifespan for everyone. People will learn to keep emotions out of it and once they do that they'll realize 60 years are enough for a great life.
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Solves the pension issue too. Less burden on welfare and Healthcare.
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Are you volunteering to do the killing
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would imagine sky etc will eventually be allowed in uk hospitals like in Italy,spain,usa and think people will think of current situation differently,its all shielded away at present,happening over there etc
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We are at WAR, at war with Coronavirus..
We take what measures we can to protect ourselves, a vaccination does not seem too much to ask We expect parents to have babies and young children vaccinated, well us Adults must learn to take our own medicine |
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And don't forget Logan's Run, the cut off age was brought down to just 30 in that film
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No I am not a star trek fan. And I'm not volunteering to do the killing. I don't see why you would need volunteers. MACHINES ffs. Or 5G.
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Not a Star Trek fan? Why do I even talk to you?
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In e.g my two books (one GDR, one WHO) it says lil edy was vaccinated against chickenpox on date so and so
I didn't know that you grew up in East Germany. |
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Now you do
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Makes sense.
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Then you have to understand that everyone in the UK gets various cards or certificates stamped when they receive vaccinations, then simply loses them as the years pass by. It's the way we are and the way this country works.
Dog vaccinations are different: every dog owner has an up-to-date record of annual boosters and knows where it is. But most people outside certain occupations haven't a clue when they last received a tetanus jab, for instance, and wouldn't know how to find out the answer even if they were interested. It's a reflection of the sort of attitude that made life better on this side of the iron curtain than the other. I can understand people's reluctance to change that. |
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If everyone over 60 was killed the health system would cope easily with Corona. It's the useless old waenkers making it look like the end of the world. What use exactly is someone above 60? I am for a fixed lifespan for everyone. People will learn to keep emotions out of it and once they do that they'll realize 60 years are enough for a great life. not quite with you on that one edysome of us are over 60 on here  I can a still have a great life, not at the moment, but I will when we get sport back on to watch and bet on |
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That's not edy. That's another poster, on a fishing trip.
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Most things Germany come up with is very sensible...this sounds sensible to me
Their two biggest ideas weren't sensible or successful and lots of people did die. You are right there foxy, we need to do a bit better against Coronavirus than the Germans did against the Allies As long as we don't invade Russia, we may do a bit better than Hitler did..erm….hopefully |
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Have you started a Neo-Neo-Nazi party? Be careful if you have because you're not of Aryan birth so you'll be a goner. Maybe the sooner the better. |
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Mar 31, 2020 -- 12:56PM, UBLE/REGY wrote:
Most things Germany come up with is very sensible...this sounds sensible to me They are demolishing villages to dig up coal to burn, their car manufacturers lied to the world for years about car emissions. They care mainly about themselves -nothing wrong with that for me- and I think perhaps they are not so trustworthy behind the veneer. |
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I've certainly had a card with vaccines listed on it when I went on an exotic holiday.
I was just thinking a while ago, after I slashed my hand open on a dirty bit of metal in a particularly dirty environment "not had a tetanus in a while"! |
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agree with saddo .... good idea to be able to get a pass and roam
 having that pass means that you have been careful not to catch it |
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The old Ken Dodd joke: "The newsagent in our town was a German. Every morning we'd kick his door in and demand to see his papers."
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They can track you on your mobile phone. They will be able to tell people next to you on the train if you are a corona risk.
I want to know who they are? |
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What a ridiculous premise to justify a form of racism that Brits have happily nurtured throughout my lifetime.
Germany is streets ahead of the UK in dealing with coronavirus. Govt UK's "ambition" is to test 25,000 a day by the end of April. At that speed, it would take ten years to get everyone cleared and allow British subjects their lost freedom back. Current rate is 8,000 a day, leading to perpetual lockdown in the UK. |
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Is the uk not going to up the testing rate of 25,000 a day after April?
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In no way racist to state that Germany helps to secure it's Euro dominance by showing scant regard to pollution and sharp - illegal even - business practice, UB. You are far too clever to believe what you accused people of there.
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another rise in german deaths today above 1% now
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still making fkn great holes in the country and destroying villages so they can feed filthy coal for power to speed up manufacture of machines - its 1939 -45 all over again
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is UB German ?
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moisok 01 Apr 20 14:20
still making fkn great holes in the country and destroying villages so they can feed filthy coal for power All this while their EU flunkies are instructed to beatify Greta and spread her message. No one blinks an eye. |
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only a quarter of their electicity supply relies on coal so I suppose we should be grateful they are not china
but don't tell all the villagers who lost their homes bulldozed in the blitzkrieg these last years |
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Mr Hancock thinks the German idea of a certificate is quite a good one.
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