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30 Mar 20
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The virus is like a death, assuming i survive, i will be a changed man.
I expect to survive and just hope my family is untouched, some are aged others asthmatic etc.
So i am taking a positive line, i am reborn. I am reinventing myself.
When i was young i was top of my economics class and did well in our virtual share portfolio competition.
I am revisiting that world, the entrepreneurial mindset world.
I have put in many learning hours over this last month.
Today began with meditation, followed by indoor floor exercises and then 3K run, have often done more, gym closed.
I am looking at revenue streams to assets(with revenue streams to assets)
I am not looking short term, i am going to leverage into other arenas, possibly land..
Mostly it will be for my son and partly because i can, says he.
It's not a significant amount to begin with.
I haven't got a clue of where to begin with confidence, so i am seeking advice.
Not for picks, more process and peripheral knowledge.
I expect to survive and just hope my family is untouched, some are aged others asthmatic etc.
So i am taking a positive line, i am reborn. I am reinventing myself.
When i was young i was top of my economics class and did well in our virtual share portfolio competition.
I am revisiting that world, the entrepreneurial mindset world.
I have put in many learning hours over this last month.
Today began with meditation, followed by indoor floor exercises and then 3K run, have often done more, gym closed.
I am looking at revenue streams to assets(with revenue streams to assets)
I am not looking short term, i am going to leverage into other arenas, possibly land..
Mostly it will be for my son and partly because i can, says he.
It's not a significant amount to begin with.
I haven't got a clue of where to begin with confidence, so i am seeking advice.
Not for picks, more process and peripheral knowledge.
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Currently looking at a platform such as Capital.Com.
Thought please,good bad indifferent, options. TIA.
Currently looking at a platform such as Capital.Com.
Thought please,good bad indifferent, options. TIA.
And seeking advice for such a serious venture on chit chat is a good idea because ..... 
That's a fair question Angoose.
Not many post on financial forum and people on here have expressed experience of the markets, also a number of professionally qualified folk who might be able to assist.
Not many post on financial forum and people on here have expressed experience of the markets, also a number of professionally qualified folk who might be able to assist.
Don't try to catch a falling knife, catch a rising feather; it's easier.
Aye, there are a small number who will likely have some helpful information and be able to point you in the right direction.
Then there are the majority, many of whom are certified, just not the certification that you are looking for
Then there are the majority, many of whom are certified, just not the certification that you are looking for
Yes i understand that, i'll do my own due diligence in relation to strategies and picks.
It's always good to hear from those who have travelled the path previously.
I'm unsure about platforms and fees etc, though obviously i have looked.
It's always good to hear from those who have travelled the path previously.
I'm unsure about platforms and fees etc, though obviously i have looked.
I don't know that platform, but this is a good watch re platform fees. .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vdbj08NtP0I
A J Bell, I suppose; or Halifax.
Both staunch.
I use a stockbroker who charges high transaction fees but no comm on US/GBP rate.
So it's swings and roundabouts.
Both staunch.
I use a stockbroker who charges high transaction fees but no comm on US/GBP rate.
So it's swings and roundabouts.
Watch this one as well, more recent.
.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIA1NxqDKGE
.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIA1NxqDKGE
halifax sharebuilder is pretty good if you want to put a set amount in monthly,you can also put money in and buy and sell shares when you want but the charges are higher than the set monthly plan
Thanks all, will cover those pointers this evening after dinner.
unitedbiscuits 30 Mar 20 16:58
Don't try to catch a falling knife, catch a rising feather; it's easier.
A pleasing phrase UB. How much off bottom do you wait to ensure the feather is not a dead cat?
Don't try to catch a falling knife, catch a rising feather; it's easier.
A pleasing phrase UB. How much off bottom do you wait to ensure the feather is not a dead cat?
Stock market novice here
If I thought that this crisis wasn't going to pan out as badly as people think, what sort of shares would be best to hold?
If I thought that this crisis wasn't going to pan out as badly as people think, what sort of shares would be best to hold?
If you're a novice concentrate on funds not individual shares.
okay ty cider. so that would be where funds hold a diverse portfolio of stocks?
i was thinking physical gold, Krugerrands etc?
i was thinking physical gold, Krugerrands etc?
Metals not my thing personally. Ideally you want to start off with a low fee globally diversified fund. Vanguard Lifestrategy is very popular but there are many others. Just drip money in by dd and forget it for 10 years if you can. If you want to gamble eg single shares, set aside an amount, write it off immediately and have some fun.
No worries Fire-and-Ice.
Another significant thing to mention is be aware of tax. So you're looking at pension, ISA or LISA depending on your personal circumstances. Even if you have no taxable income, you can drop 2880 per tax year in a sipp and the government tops it up to 3600 for free.
Another significant thing to mention is be aware of tax. So you're looking at pension, ISA or LISA depending on your personal circumstances. Even if you have no taxable income, you can drop 2880 per tax year in a sipp and the government tops it up to 3600 for free.
For what it's worth I'm a chartered accountant albeit I retired quite a few years ago aged 56.
My advice is to find a financial adviser who you trust and then tell him what you want to achieve and he should construct a portfolio to hopefully achieve that in the long term. A very important aspect is your risk tolerance and speaking generally the maxim is the older you are the less risk you want to take on. Having said that another key aspect is your income ;if you have sufficient ,stable income streams you might well be more risk tolerance with your capital.
To be honest if you're talking about a capital sum of less than £150k I'd give the whole idea of investing short thrift.
My advice is to find a financial adviser who you trust and then tell him what you want to achieve and he should construct a portfolio to hopefully achieve that in the long term. A very important aspect is your risk tolerance and speaking generally the maxim is the older you are the less risk you want to take on. Having said that another key aspect is your income ;if you have sufficient ,stable income streams you might well be more risk tolerance with your capital.
To be honest if you're talking about a capital sum of less than £150k I'd give the whole idea of investing short thrift.
With the online resources available today, there's really no need to waste money on an IFA, unless you don't want to put any effort in, then fair enough.
In regard to the last comment posy, the vast majority of people at the very least should be investing into a pension (unless they are over 75 or have access to db). Everyone, bare minimum should be talking advantage of employer contributions available unless they are on the breadline. And anyone on 40% marginal rate, or with kids and dicing with CB cap it's a no brainer.
The amount of capital is insignificant, imho. You're trying to increase it over the long term.
In regard to the last comment posy, the vast majority of people at the very least should be investing into a pension (unless they are over 75 or have access to db). Everyone, bare minimum should be talking advantage of employer contributions available unless they are on the breadline. And anyone on 40% marginal rate, or with kids and dicing with CB cap it's a no brainer.
The amount of capital is insignificant, imho. You're trying to increase it over the long term.
saddo - Like any other form of gambling, so much depends on whether you get off on the right foot. If you do, it's easy. If you don't, the more you struggle, the worse it gets. So I would wait until the market is definitely going up - two weeks in a row - before buying in. Just my opinion, and I get plenty wrong, but I have past successes to cushion any disappointments. Good luck all.
Cheers UB. I've opened a share ISA and a SIPP before the tax year end and I'll be in there at some point.
I would second Cider's scepticism about using an IFA.
The important thing to remember is: a financial adviser does not even pretend to be likely to outperform a pin-sticker.
His job is not to maximise a client's returns but
a) to protect himself and his associates from any possible future liability
b) to normalise very poor returns, so that the client will be be the gift that keeps on giving.
Most financial advisers could not find the couch in your living-room.
The important thing to remember is: a financial adviser does not even pretend to be likely to outperform a pin-sticker.
His job is not to maximise a client's returns but
a) to protect himself and his associates from any possible future liability
b) to normalise very poor returns, so that the client will be be the gift that keeps on giving.
Most financial advisers could not find the couch in your living-room.
saddo - you get a 20% boost into your SIPP so it's like betting on an 83% book! You could still lose but you would be betting on the right side.
They will want to avoid litigation risk these days, so will tend to be over cautious in my view, even if the profiling shows an appetite for risk. Much like a default workplace fund.
Past is not a guide to the future etc etc but the s&p 500 returned 9.6% annually for the last decade, dividends reinvested .https://dqydj.com/sp-500-return-calculator/
(it was 13.3% before the corona crash)
You don't need an IFA to find an s&p tracker with low fees, DD £200 pcm into a SIPP means £250, come back in a decade.
I prefer a globally diversified fund myself, which will be weighted something like 50% US but gives you a bit of cover against the US going t1ts up.
Past is not a guide to the future etc etc but the s&p 500 returned 9.6% annually for the last decade, dividends reinvested .https://dqydj.com/sp-500-return-calculator/
(it was 13.3% before the corona crash)
You don't need an IFA to find an s&p tracker with low fees, DD £200 pcm into a SIPP means £250, come back in a decade.
I prefer a globally diversified fund myself, which will be weighted something like 50% US but gives you a bit of cover against the US going t1ts up.
After the last crash it returns something like 16.6% over 11 years. As good a time to start in my view.
Jesus cider that guy is a sensation for anyone with sleeping issues........
I can only speak as i find.....I use a financial adviser who I've used for over 10 years which costs me 1% of the portfolio per year on an annual basis . I completely agree with cider to pay £2880 into a sipp and take the benefit of the tax reclaim.
I also speculate on my own account with money I can afford to lose and did very well by buying traditional companies when they were rock bottom prices at the turn of the century however a lot of my profit disappeared when getting caught with party gaming, sfi and france telecom.
I also speculate on my own account with money I can afford to lose and did very well by buying traditional companies when they were rock bottom prices at the turn of the century however a lot of my profit disappeared when getting caught with party gaming, sfi and france telecom.
Mar 30, 2020 -- 8:45PM, peckerdunne wrote:
Jesus cider that guy is a sensation for anyone with sleeping issues........
Ramin is very.....thorough I really like his material as it is so well researched, but he doesn't want to be a stock picker. Just provide his subscribers with the information to make their own decisions.
Nah, thanks cider, i have watched a few of his videos and have learned some stuff but i did fall asleep twice..........
I do appreciate all the comments and links, nothing ventured et al...
However as i stated am only interested in share picks, not sipps or trackers etc..
Certainly wont be using an IFA either nor 150k.......
I do appreciate all the comments and links, nothing ventured et al...
However as i stated am only interested in share picks, not sipps or trackers etc..
Certainly wont be using an IFA either nor 150k.......
By how much has your IFA managed fund appreciated over ten years, posy?
1% annually is very very expensive to returns.
Flat fee dealing here peckerdunne:
.https://www.x-o.co.uk/
Flat fee dealing here peckerdunne:
.https://www.x-o.co.uk/
It's a platform one can trust with low cost fees that i'm looking for.
Perhaps i will open 3/4 and take it from there as i learn..
Another thing is tax,how undisclosed are these things, i'm wondering should i keep it in my sons name as i don't want it to appear under mine right now,and also the fact that he may well receive inheritance of it anyhow.
Perhaps i will open 3/4 and take it from there as i learn..
Another thing is tax,how undisclosed are these things, i'm wondering should i keep it in my sons name as i don't want it to appear under mine right now,and also the fact that he may well receive inheritance of it anyhow.
1% annually is very very expensive to returns.
yes i was quite shocked tbh...
yes i was quite shocked tbh...
Open a Self Invested Personal Pension and there is no tax.
A sipp costs you c £20 a month. But a sipp grants you a minimum gift of £720pa from the tax-man.
A sipp costs you c £20 a month. But a sipp grants you a minimum gift of £720pa from the tax-man.
Oh i see now and should point out i'll be mostly if not completely be looking at US companies,so the dollar.
ub it's actually quite tricky to answer that question as I've withdrawn and deposited over that period but my best estimate is an average net net gain of 2.5% pa ,obviously if I'd done the calculation 3 months ago it would have been around 4%.
I,d recommend cider any advice he gives is given in good faith, which is about the best you can hope for on here, and probably better than anything someone will tell you in a 10 min phone call representing some company, 7 so called experts in mail last week was like a book of well known best stockmarket cliches
Getting quite (very) complicated with US dividend returns outside of a tax wrapper in regard to the tax considerations.
A naive question i guess but can anyone tell me this
If i but stock with a company and i want to reinvest dividends always,how might that be actioned on a platform..
Though i wont have many holdings, i will for the most part be factoring in for dividends.
If i but stock with a company and i want to reinvest dividends always,how might that be actioned on a platform..
Though i wont have many holdings, i will for the most part be factoring in for dividends.
Cheers 1st time poster!
There's a lot of research that points to an untouched tracker with regular payments beating managed portfolios. The best thing for most people to do is find a good global accumulation fund of funds, find the best tax treatment, lowest fees, set up a regular contribution and forget about it. Set aside a small gambling fund to itch the scratch if needed.
There's a lot of research that points to an untouched tracker with regular payments beating managed portfolios. The best thing for most people to do is find a good global accumulation fund of funds, find the best tax treatment, lowest fees, set up a regular contribution and forget about it. Set aside a small gambling fund to itch the scratch if needed.
Generally you've got to pay the trading fee again, peckerdunne. I know some of the big players like rdsb have a dividend re-investment program, eg:
.https://www.shareview.co.uk/4/Info/Portfolio/Default/en/Home/Shareholders/Pages/ReinvestDividends.aspx
.https://www.shareview.co.uk/4/Info/Portfolio/Default/en/Home/Shareholders/Pages/ReinvestDividends.aspx
many moons ago I got into the dot. com shares
sad to say everybody was getting out of them.
stay safe
Ronnie.
sad to say everybody was getting out of them.
stay safe
Ronnie.
As an aside I use the AJ Bell platform and pay £3.50 per trade.
Iv'e had a gambling fund all my life Cider, i'm actually pretty good too, but it is becoming increasingly difficult and i am becoming tired off it..
I just don't see the opportunity there much more tbh...just my opinion..
I want to buy US stock, hold it mostly,and reinvest the dividends,that's the first thing, so i suppose i need not be concerned with tax too much until i exit..except for the dividend return itself i guess, but then that is likely to be quite small initially.
I just don't see the opportunity there much more tbh...just my opinion..
I want to buy US stock, hold it mostly,and reinvest the dividends,that's the first thing, so i suppose i need not be concerned with tax too much until i exit..except for the dividend return itself i guess, but then that is likely to be quite small initially.
I'm with AJ Bell as well, divi reinvestment is 1%, 1.50 minimum.
What's the £3.50 for posy, shares are usually 9.95 down to 4.95 if 10+ trades in the preceding month.
What's the £3.50 for posy, shares are usually 9.95 down to 4.95 if 10+ trades in the preceding month.
>You do not need to fill in a tax return if your only foreign income is dividends under £300 in total and you do not have anything else to report.
.https://www.gov.uk/tax-foreign-income/paying-tax
.https://www.gov.uk/tax-foreign-income/paying-tax
Might want to look at II for the international stuff, peckerdunne
.https://www.ii.co.uk/investing-with-ii/international-investing
.https://www.ii.co.uk/investing-with-ii/international-investing
Have a look at these brokers - Degiro, Freetrade and trading212. They are reputed to have the lowest charges.
ok cider good one, thanks, i wont bust that for a wee while i guess
Posy, what was cool there is i searched and it brought up a balance sheet, i like that, though i was familiar with this one..
I need a break now guys, pop in tomorrow, thanks for your time...excellent
Posy, what was cool there is i searched and it brought up a balance sheet, i like that, though i was familiar with this one..
I need a break now guys, pop in tomorrow, thanks for your time...excellent
cider , probably depends on the value of the portfolio invested and also maybe through the financial adviser used.
I'm guessing that those with the lowest charges would not offer the choice of investments that e.g. Youinvest & Selftrade offer. It depends upon what you are looking to invest in. I like to invest in some retail bonds. With Selftrade, you can normally do it online, whereas with Youinvest, you have to phone up.
No Stow i don't think so as i can invest in low cost Dimensional Funds which aren't widely available to retail investors.
I was thinking of things like retail bonds, PIBs, warrants & structured products
For anyone not particularly interested in spending their life researching and trading, I'd suggest a drip feed into global tracker funds via a SIPP and or ISA.
You benefit by average costing plus the benefits of trackers over actively managed funds.
e.g. Vanguard.
You benefit by average costing plus the benefits of trackers over actively managed funds.
e.g. Vanguard.
ronnie rails,
I had the same problem with flares and star jumpers,ronnie
I had the same problem with flares and star jumpers,ronnie
Derigo have been raising some red flags.
And SVS securities should put anyone off choosing a stockbroker entirely on the basis of low costs.
You can read about both on moneysavingexpert.com forums.
In the first case, investors are discovering that it is entirely legal for your stockbroker to pimp out your investments.
In the second case, SVS were forced by Govt agency - FCA - to stop trading last August. To date, anybody with investments in SVS does not know whether or when he can get control of his investment. 7 months and counting.
Another thing to consider is whether, if you choose a low cost service, you are not being scalped elsewhere. For example, Rowan Dartington cannot compete on commission charges but transact foreign shares at spot rate. Good for me. But I am not recommending them for others. I would go with Halifax or A J Bell.
And SVS securities should put anyone off choosing a stockbroker entirely on the basis of low costs.
You can read about both on moneysavingexpert.com forums.
In the first case, investors are discovering that it is entirely legal for your stockbroker to pimp out your investments.
In the second case, SVS were forced by Govt agency - FCA - to stop trading last August. To date, anybody with investments in SVS does not know whether or when he can get control of his investment. 7 months and counting.
Another thing to consider is whether, if you choose a low cost service, you are not being scalped elsewhere. For example, Rowan Dartington cannot compete on commission charges but transact foreign shares at spot rate. Good for me. But I am not recommending them for others. I would go with Halifax or A J Bell.
Hi guys, Stow
been having a good look through 121 platform, no mention anywhere of their take..they say no fees etc so i guess its a spread, anyone..
been having a good look through 121 platform, no mention anywhere of their take..they say no fees etc so i guess its a spread, anyone..
Pecker, Roadrunner dabbles on the stocks in the Irish Forum, you could pm him maybe for some advice.
If it's long term for your children, maybe some 10 Yr ISA's could be an option, depending on your bank, interest rates crap now as you know but I'm sure you could get 5% ROI cumulative if you shopped around.
If it's long term for your children, maybe some 10 Yr ISA's could be an option, depending on your bank, interest rates crap now as you know but I'm sure you could get 5% ROI cumulative if you shopped around.
Thanks Dep, good man...
I only want to buy stock,mostly US stock, my own picks.........
In 5 yrs i won't even talk to you...........
I only want to buy stock,mostly US stock, my own picks.........
In 5 yrs i won't even talk to you...........
i will at some point shout roadrunner, have followed his thread, but you must know he is as mad as a hatter without his meds...........
Cider, have looked at shareview thanks.
uk only really
uk only really
Who can tell me what happens ordinarily.
I am using a platform, bought US stock, dividend given.
How is the div processed,can i just reinvest or c/forward until i purchase another share
on said platform. tia
I am using a platform, bought US stock, dividend given.
How is the div processed,can i just reinvest or c/forward until i purchase another share
on said platform. tia
Been tracking a Marijuana company on Canadian exchange but when i go to platforms it seems i cant buy?
Where can i ? or other relevant info tia
Where can i ? or other relevant info tia
Some good info on comparing different platforms here:
https://monevator.com/compare-uk-cheapest-online-brokers/
https://monevator.com/compare-uk-cheapest-online-brokers/
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