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Saturday,cases down,people been hospitalised down,hospitals not at full capacity, and benefits of lockdown,social distancing to come, surely social distancing, lockdown will have to a massive failure for umbers to spiral out of control like Italy ,spain from here
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Report SontaranStratagem March 30, 2020 3:46 PM BST
This will deeply upset angoose, who only ever seems to post really negative stories

I'm sure he'll find something to post about though
Report SontaranStratagem March 30, 2020 3:47 PM BST
"only" 159 deaths today, the doom merchants will be getting upset

For some reason people are only interested in negative stories
Report casemoney March 30, 2020 3:48 PM BST
How many today ??
Report casemoney March 30, 2020 3:48 PM BST
Thanks son Crossed Post
Report Injera March 30, 2020 3:48 PM BST
The number of people who have died in England after contracting coronavirus is now 1,284, a rise of 159, NHS England said.

Those who died were aged between 32 and 98 years old.

Almost all patients had underlying health conditions – the four people who did not were aged between 56 and 87 years old.
Report Injera March 30, 2020 3:50 PM BST
Assuming a daily death number of 1500, it’s 10.6%

Spare a thought for the other 89%.....
Report SontaranStratagem March 30, 2020 3:51 PM BST
I have no doubt this thing is real and people need to stay home and keep their distance, the numbers will flatten out much quicker

China are still the winners though by a fair way, that's the model that we need to take in future
Report SontaranStratagem March 30, 2020 3:52 PM BST
Do people think these numbers are flattening out already? they don't seem to be spiking like Spain or Italy
Report Cider March 30, 2020 3:52 PM BST
Like I said on other threads, I'd treat figures reported from the weekend with a bit of caution. These are when the deaths are registered, not when they actually occured.
Report SontaranStratagem March 30, 2020 3:54 PM BST
Cider

I expected more deaths today, probably 250+

But this isn't over yet hence the excel centre being opened
Report moisok March 30, 2020 3:55 PM BST
do not believe anything about these listed  'cases'
Report SontaranStratagem March 30, 2020 3:56 PM BST
I don't think I had it but took no chances stayed indoors

The cough panicked me enough to do that
Report Cider March 30, 2020 3:56 PM BST
The Nightingale is some extremely impressive work to be fair.
Report Angoose March 30, 2020 3:57 PM BST

Mar 30, 2020 -- 3:54PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:


Cider I expected more deaths today, probably 250+ But this isn't over yet hence the excel centre being opened


Interesting, you expected a higher number but started off the thread by accusing me of being upset by low numbers.
Just why do you imagine that I would derive pleasure from the misery of others?

Posting information from other sources on to the forum is merely that.

Report Cider March 30, 2020 3:58 PM BST
Just intuitively, less people work on the weekends, especially admin types.
Report Angoose March 30, 2020 4:01 PM BST
Feels like that to me as well, another reason to take a longer view of the figures, day to day will invariably include apparently odd fluctuations.
Report SontaranStratagem March 30, 2020 4:01 PM BST
So Monday is a low day for that reason, cider?

I'm expecting a big jump tomorrow, probably over 300
Report moisok March 30, 2020 4:02 PM BST
nah!!  goosebump  - you just love the attention and think you might be a bit above the rest of us but you are just copying and posting your guardian and bbc items (same thing )   ho ho

you get so excited with new lots of deaths and report them

a bit weird isn't it
Report 1st time poster March 30, 2020 4:03 PM BST
styill having hospital capacity even in London is the suprising,encouraging figure
Report Cider March 30, 2020 4:03 PM BST
Just my own hypothesis and looking at the pattern of the figures reported (before any heroes jump in, I realise these are real people passing away, we have to detach emotion from the stats).
Report moisok March 30, 2020 4:05 PM BST
if true!!   goosebrain will be sagging in his chair - no longer able to post sensationalising panic driven figures

back to brexit and guardian/bbc copies and pastes
Report Injera March 30, 2020 4:05 PM BST
Where’s the capacity info?
Report casemoney March 30, 2020 4:06 PM BST
The patients were aged between 32 and 98 years old and all but four, aged between 56 and 87 years old, had underlying health conditions, according to the PA Media news agency.
Report Injera March 30, 2020 4:07 PM BST
180 deaths in the UK today.
Report 1st time poster March 30, 2020 4:08 PM BST
dr in press conference yesterday,stephen just said 9,000 hospitalised corona cases
Report casemoney March 30, 2020 4:09 PM BST
On a negative , Yesterday was a 23 hour Day ? Never the Less I was expecting a figure of 250- 300 PlainPlain
Report Angoose March 30, 2020 4:09 PM BST
More than 9,000 people who have tested positive for Covid-19 are currently being treated in hospitals across England, NHS England’s chief executive Sir Simon Stevens has said.

Stevens added that the number of patients was expected to increase, but services set up to provide additional capacity would be available later this week, during a visit to the new NHS Nightingale Hospital in London.

Speaking to the BBC, he said:

Today there are over 9,000 positive coronavirus patients in hospitals across England and we know that number is only going to increase.

“That’s why what you see here is a mass mobilisation, taking place right across the country, but also at these new Nightingale hospitals.

“This has been an extraordinary team effort on the part of nurses and doctors and therapists and pharmacists across London, but also volunteers and paramedics and people returning to help.

“And when these services are needed, they will be available beginning later this week, and because this is a global health emergency we’re actually seeing similar types of hospitals being established in Berlin and Madrid and New York.”

Stevens added that NHS England would be able to double the number of coronavirus tests it has available for staff by the end of the week.
Report casemoney March 30, 2020 4:10 PM BST
Inj correct the Figure is 180 the other figure is England only
Report casemoney March 30, 2020 4:11 PM BST
Within a couple of Weeks a test should hopefully become more available ???
Report moisok March 30, 2020 4:12 PM BST
he really cannot help it  - a sad individual  - repeating published info  - amazing scenes
Report casemoney March 30, 2020 4:12 PM BST
South Korea's Motto has been TEST TEST TEST they have have kept the numbers down ..
Report SontaranStratagem March 30, 2020 4:13 PM BST
Angoose needed to find some doom bless him

180 deaths isn't enough for him
Report Injera March 30, 2020 4:13 PM BST
But it does not give us a real-time snapshot of the number of coronavirus-related deaths in the UK, nor is it an accurate reflection of exactly where the UK is in the 'curve' of the outbreak.


There are a number of reasons for this. First, the numbers that are published each day include deaths that have occurred day, if not weeks earlier.

The list of deaths announced by NHS England in its bulletin of March 29 included deaths that were recorded as taking place as far back as March 16.

A death is only included in the figures once families of the victim have been informed.

So the day-on-day change in the official death figures is not moving in step with how many coronavirus-related deaths are taking place in real time.

Secondly, deaths being included in the official total are focused on those that have taken place in hospitals in England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

These provide the most immediate sources of data for the Department of Health, and which are then used for the daily updates.

NHS England, for instance, publishes a daily breakdown of coronavirus-related deaths in England by NHS Trust. Deaths that have occurred in the wider community are not included.

The Office for National Statistics (ONS) publishes weekly provisional figures on the total number of deaths registered in England and Wales, including the wider community, as well as whether the underlying cause of death is a respiratory disease.

But there is a lag in these figures of about 11 days - the latest ONS bulletin, published on March 24, had numbers up to the week ending March 13.

These figures are also based on when a death is registered, not when it occurred.

A third reason the official death figures do not give a real-time snapshot of where we are in the 'curve' of the outbreak is due to the amount of time that can pass between somebody contracting the virus and them losing their life through a coronavirus-related death.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8167719/20-patients-die-coronavirus-Scotland-Wales-UKs-death-toll-jumps-1-241.html
Report SontaranStratagem March 30, 2020 4:14 PM BST
https://youtu.be/va6nPu-1auE

Angoose when he finds his doom info
Report Angoose March 30, 2020 4:17 PM BST
SontaranStratagem • March 30, 2020 3:54 PM BST

Cider

I expected more deaths today, probably 250+

SontaranStratagem • March 30, 2020 4:01 PM BST

So Monday is a low day for that reason, cider?

I'm expecting a big jump tomorrow, probably over 300
Report Angoose March 30, 2020 4:17 PM BST
Read what you write.
Report Coachbuster March 30, 2020 4:19 PM BST
Just intuitively, less people work on the weekends, especially admin types.
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fewer
Report Coachbuster March 30, 2020 4:20 PM BST
death figures  will pop up and down on some days  ..they did in Lombarby
Report SontaranStratagem March 30, 2020 4:26 PM BST
Don't worry goose you'll get your doom throughout this
Report Angoose March 30, 2020 4:30 PM BST
Do you think that you'll get your rapidly revised daily forecast ?
Report SontaranStratagem March 30, 2020 4:36 PM BST
People are just contently looking for doom doom doom

Even when an expert says "slowing" they find a way to turn it into a doom post
Report Angoose March 30, 2020 4:42 PM BST
Is that why you are predicting a big jump tomorrow ?
Report SontaranStratagem March 30, 2020 4:47 PM BST
https://www.esquire.com/uk/life/a31915611/coronavirus-timeline/

Here you go goosey, a bit of doom p o r n for ya

That forum was getting quite cheerful until this bloke turned up with that, can't have people getting positive

Wasn't you was it?
Report boxingthefox March 30, 2020 4:49 PM BST
Hey SS, you feeling any better?
Report Angoose March 30, 2020 4:50 PM BST
He appears to still have quite a high ferver.
Report SontaranStratagem March 30, 2020 4:50 PM BST
So so box

I've got that lousy feeling, can't be bothered to do anything type feeling
Report boxingthefox March 30, 2020 4:54 PM BST
Keep your spirits up ( as much as is possible under the circumstances) and Ignore the doomsters. Wink
Report moisok March 30, 2020 5:20 PM BST
I wake up in the morning slightly sore throat - a bit bleary and a bit of a headache.  My hand was numb. 

My lady told me not to be a silly billy  - 'you drank too much london pride last night'

and there was me going to play the 'old man needs sympathy and loving game'  ha ha
Report ian merseyside March 30, 2020 5:26 PM BST
The BBC seem quite happy reporting bad news stories about Coronavirus.  Yesterday we had Spain death figures "soaring" (if memory serves), even though they had gone down from 844 on Saturday to 821 (537 so far today so hopefully that's the confirmed figure).  Earlier today they had to show a comment from a Spanish official saying the trend was now looking positive (you wouldn't think so if you were following the previous BBC coverage!).  Surprisingly that comment is no longer showing on the website headlines.  The last 3 days for UK deaths are 260 (Saturday) down to 209 yesterday and 180 today.  Again, the BBC are not highlighting the positive news.
Report SontaranStratagem March 30, 2020 5:32 PM BST
Sky News are the worst, if this ever stop and we go back to normal Sky should be shut down and thrown out the country, for their disgusting fear mongering
Report Injera March 30, 2020 5:43 PM BST
The Telegraph asking good questions :

Police state?
Day of reckoning for China?
Are the mortality numbers correct?
Report 1st time poster March 30, 2020 5:48 PM BST
as Brexit relIES on a trade deal with china THAT WILL BE A NO
Report 1st time poster March 30, 2020 5:52 PM BST
DEBT RISING,defecit rising,inflation rising,unemployment rising, company/individual debt rising,and the local bully girl pritti reckons we should foook china off and manufacture our own stuff at 10 times the price good luck with that, Laugh
Report boxingthefox March 30, 2020 5:52 PM BST
BBC this morning opened with "the shelves have been empty and now farmers are worried they will not be able to produce quickly enough" (as best I can remember) CUE more panic. The actual report was about farming labour I think as I switched over, as it just winds me up.

Our media in the main is a bl00dy disgrace. Cry
Report Dotchinite March 30, 2020 5:58 PM BST
The media is evil.
Report 1st time poster March 30, 2020 5:59 PM BST
80,000 fruit/agri food workers short pritti sed she,s got millions to replace them with ,although 4/5 000 might die before they offer their services to her
Report moisok March 30, 2020 6:09 PM BST
still whipping up the panic on bbc and sky then?
Report SontaranStratagem March 30, 2020 6:22 PM BST
To be fair CNN focused on the decreasing cases in Italy and the fact more people are recovering

Angoose will see the 812 and go nuts with it Laugh
Report moisok March 30, 2020 6:25 PM BST
Vastra Ingelstad   v Sabersto    NAILED ON  - WHILE YOU STILL HAVE THE CHANCE

thank me later
Report SontaranStratagem March 30, 2020 6:25 PM BST
Angoose on seeing the "the cases have decreased for a 5th day in a row" Sad

Angoose on seeing the "more people are recovering daily" AngryCry

Angoose on seeing the "812 people died since Sunday taking the total to 11,591" ExcitedExcited

Get to work goosey
Report moisok March 30, 2020 6:26 PM BST
goosebump will have to find the latest copy and pastes he can do from bbc and guardian (well - they are the same thing)
Report SontaranStratagem March 30, 2020 6:27 PM BST
Goosey can't post the first two above as they ain't doom enough

But the 812 is perfect doom

Although Italy need to get that critical number down Plain
Report SontaranStratagem March 30, 2020 6:28 PM BST
At this rate Goose is going to be getting worried about our curve trajectory, it ain't lining up with the Italian one

He;s going to need some proper digging from BBC/SKY to find some doom
Report lurka March 30, 2020 6:30 PM BST
The UK will only start reporting accurate death figures from tomorrow when they include not hospitalised deaths. You can redraw all your curves then, assuming they actually give out the full picture this time.
Report Cardinal Scott March 30, 2020 6:30 PM BST

Mar 30, 2020 -- 6:25PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:


Angoose on seeing the "the cases have decreased for a 5th day in a row" Angoose on seeing the "more people are recovering daily" Angoose on seeing the "812 people died since Sunday taking the total to 11,591" Get to work goosey


You have recovered well...back to posting absolute $hite

Report 1st time poster March 30, 2020 6:32 PM BST
GOOSE aint the only one worrying, handjob hancock,gove,doris could be spending a lot of time on petticoat lane market trying to flog 30,000 ventilators
Report SontaranStratagem March 30, 2020 6:32 PM BST
I think people are dying of it cardinal

But Angoose is proper taking the p*** with his doom mongering
Report SontaranStratagem March 30, 2020 6:33 PM BST

Mar 30, 2020 -- 6:30PM, lurka wrote:


The UK will only start reporting accurate death figures from tomorrow when they include not hospitalised deaths. You can redraw all your curves then, assuming they actually give out the full picture this time.


They will

And that's where the probably increase will come from

Report 1st time poster March 30, 2020 6:34 PM BST
mon/tues must be a big day for the numbers/modeller,s guys, could be dramatic changes in outlook for the future
Report moisok March 30, 2020 6:35 PM BST
just waiting to see the range rovers with emabarrassed women handing over fray bentos tins over to the food banks

they are already dumping fresh food that has run out of date or gone squishy

but they ain't getting my tins of cheese and onion   - no way
Report SontaranStratagem March 30, 2020 6:35 PM BST
Good or bad 1TP
Report 1st time poster March 30, 2020 6:40 PM BST
confusing
because their going to add in those dying in the community, care homes etc tomorrow,so there,ll be a bigger number

but I don't think we,re going to reach Spanish/Italian levels now,if we do this so called peak must be a lot further down the track than their currently predicting
Report 1st time poster March 30, 2020 6:56 PM BST
London mayor says London peak could be as far as 4 weeks away , 2 to 4 weeks lets hope he,s not at the top end, as that would make rst of the country as far  as 6 weeks away meaning these number ,s are only in the foothills, SadSad
Report moisok March 30, 2020 6:57 PM BST
is khan an expert on communicable diseases  - he appears to know so much?
Report elisjohn March 30, 2020 6:58 PM BST
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000gt59
well worth listening to lord sumption, he starts 17 mins into the prog
Report casemoney March 30, 2020 7:02 PM BST
If the silly c@nt had shut the Tube down 3 weeks ago ,How many would not have been infected ? But no his Great City has to be kept Moving. Police Manned Entrances Emergency staff only was the Way forward , Thousands off planes Gatwick and LHX  , and Straight into a City Holding 10 million
People , What Could possibly go Wrong ...

Same has Happened in New York  ....
Report Coachbuster March 30, 2020 7:04 PM BST
New Zealand doing things the right way  ...bless their woolly socks
Report casemoney March 30, 2020 7:04 PM BST
He Knows foook All Mo , has stood by and watched the Virus flood his City , thats how much he Knows ..
Report 1st time poster March 30, 2020 7:04 PM BST
my area
food supplies for food banks in lock up stolen
nhs staff cars in car park windows put in, stolen
nhs ppe in lock up stolen
good old plod giving warnings out to people buying easter eggs, plod does itself no favours
Report jollyswagman March 30, 2020 7:05 PM BST
you've been busy 1tp, did you get a big haul?
Report Coachbuster March 30, 2020 7:07 PM BST
it's society  Jim but not as we know it
Report 1st time poster March 30, 2020 7:08 PM BST
gutted me and the wife were looking forward to a sneaky easter egg, Wink
Report moisok March 30, 2020 7:16 PM BST
It is the KHANTian philosphy  - I tell you all but so far you have missed it.
Report screaming from beneaththewaves March 30, 2020 7:31 PM BST
Sir Patrick Vallance, chief scientific adviser, says the ONS figures on Coronavirus deaths are unlikely to be significantly higher than official figures

He says not to expect the number of additional coronavirus deaths in the community to be 'large' compared with current figures.

https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1244667645804281857
Report Coachbuster March 30, 2020 7:34 PM BST
yes Patrick ,we knew that weeks ago
Report Coachbuster March 30, 2020 7:35 PM BST
unlikely did he say  ?
Report 1st time poster March 30, 2020 8:20 PM BST
dont want the deniers to start a lap of honour,or not saying lockdown ,social distancing hasn't helped or that we had no choice,but there does seem to be a steady stream of experts out on media tonight who were predicting meltdown a week ago .now seem to laying the groundwork for a climbdown on death rates, icu bed crisis, etc,etc,
maybe we could all call ourselves winners for a change,lets hope so,
might all change again tomorrow,but you,d think these experts would have some idea of tomorrows figures before offering more optimistic words
Report moisok March 30, 2020 8:30 PM BST
have you noticed that exciter on sky dressed all in black  black hair eyebrows the lot with the staring eyes and glasses
talking rather fast and excited about it all

talk about a panic inducing prott   we used to call them 'panic bosuns'   ones who panic as soon as they hit a problem

sky really need to look elsewhere

just remembered his name is ROLAND    any one remember him ??
Report Cardinal Scott March 30, 2020 8:31 PM BST
Shocked

Report GRANTCKING March 30, 2020 10:07 PM BST
alot of people in india are going to die, hopefully preity zinta isnt one of them
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