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Saturday,cases down,people been hospitalised down,hospitals not at full capacity, and benefits of lockdown,social distancing to come, surely social distancing, lockdown will have to a massive failure for umbers to spiral out of control like Italy ,spain from here

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By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 30 Mar 20 15:46
This will deeply upset angoose, who only ever seems to post really negative stories

I'm sure he'll find something to post about though
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 30 Mar 20 15:47
"only" 159 deaths today, the doom merchants will be getting upset

For some reason people are only interested in negative stories
By:
casemoney
When: 30 Mar 20 15:48
How many today ??
By:
casemoney
When: 30 Mar 20 15:48
Thanks son Crossed Post
By:
Injera
When: 30 Mar 20 15:48
The number of people who have died in England after contracting coronavirus is now 1,284, a rise of 159, NHS England said.

Those who died were aged between 32 and 98 years old.

Almost all patients had underlying health conditions – the four people who did not were aged between 56 and 87 years old.
By:
Injera
When: 30 Mar 20 15:50
Assuming a daily death number of 1500, it’s 10.6%

Spare a thought for the other 89%.....
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 30 Mar 20 15:51
I have no doubt this thing is real and people need to stay home and keep their distance, the numbers will flatten out much quicker

China are still the winners though by a fair way, that's the model that we need to take in future
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 30 Mar 20 15:52
Do people think these numbers are flattening out already? they don't seem to be spiking like Spain or Italy
By:
Cider
When: 30 Mar 20 15:52
Like I said on other threads, I'd treat figures reported from the weekend with a bit of caution. These are when the deaths are registered, not when they actually occured.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 30 Mar 20 15:54
Cider

I expected more deaths today, probably 250+

But this isn't over yet hence the excel centre being opened
By:
moisok
When: 30 Mar 20 15:55
do not believe anything about these listed  'cases'
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 30 Mar 20 15:56
I don't think I had it but took no chances stayed indoors

The cough panicked me enough to do that
By:
Cider
When: 30 Mar 20 15:56
The Nightingale is some extremely impressive work to be fair.
By:
Angoose
When: 30 Mar 20 15:57

Mar 30, 2020 -- 3:54PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:


Cider I expected more deaths today, probably 250+ But this isn't over yet hence the excel centre being opened


Interesting, you expected a higher number but started off the thread by accusing me of being upset by low numbers.
Just why do you imagine that I would derive pleasure from the misery of others?

Posting information from other sources on to the forum is merely that.

By:
Cider
When: 30 Mar 20 15:58
Just intuitively, less people work on the weekends, especially admin types.
By:
Angoose
When: 30 Mar 20 16:01
Feels like that to me as well, another reason to take a longer view of the figures, day to day will invariably include apparently odd fluctuations.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 30 Mar 20 16:01
So Monday is a low day for that reason, cider?

I'm expecting a big jump tomorrow, probably over 300
By:
moisok
When: 30 Mar 20 16:02
nah!!  goosebump  - you just love the attention and think you might be a bit above the rest of us but you are just copying and posting your guardian and bbc items (same thing )   ho ho

you get so excited with new lots of deaths and report them

a bit weird isn't it
By:
1st time poster
When: 30 Mar 20 16:03
styill having hospital capacity even in London is the suprising,encouraging figure
By:
Cider
When: 30 Mar 20 16:03
Just my own hypothesis and looking at the pattern of the figures reported (before any heroes jump in, I realise these are real people passing away, we have to detach emotion from the stats).
By:
moisok
When: 30 Mar 20 16:05
if true!!   goosebrain will be sagging in his chair - no longer able to post sensationalising panic driven figures

back to brexit and guardian/bbc copies and pastes
By:
Injera
When: 30 Mar 20 16:05
Where’s the capacity info?
By:
casemoney
When: 30 Mar 20 16:06
The patients were aged between 32 and 98 years old and all but four, aged between 56 and 87 years old, had underlying health conditions, according to the PA Media news agency.
By:
Injera
When: 30 Mar 20 16:07
180 deaths in the UK today.
By:
1st time poster
When: 30 Mar 20 16:08
dr in press conference yesterday,stephen just said 9,000 hospitalised corona cases
By:
casemoney
When: 30 Mar 20 16:09
On a negative , Yesterday was a 23 hour Day ? Never the Less I was expecting a figure of 250- 300 PlainPlain
By:
Angoose
When: 30 Mar 20 16:09
More than 9,000 people who have tested positive for Covid-19 are currently being treated in hospitals across England, NHS England’s chief executive Sir Simon Stevens has said.

Stevens added that the number of patients was expected to increase, but services set up to provide additional capacity would be available later this week, during a visit to the new NHS Nightingale Hospital in London.

Speaking to the BBC, he said:

Today there are over 9,000 positive coronavirus patients in hospitals across England and we know that number is only going to increase.

“That’s why what you see here is a mass mobilisation, taking place right across the country, but also at these new Nightingale hospitals.

“This has been an extraordinary team effort on the part of nurses and doctors and therapists and pharmacists across London, but also volunteers and paramedics and people returning to help.

“And when these services are needed, they will be available beginning later this week, and because this is a global health emergency we’re actually seeing similar types of hospitals being established in Berlin and Madrid and New York.”

Stevens added that NHS England would be able to double the number of coronavirus tests it has available for staff by the end of the week.
By:
casemoney
When: 30 Mar 20 16:10
Inj correct the Figure is 180 the other figure is England only
By:
casemoney
When: 30 Mar 20 16:11
Within a couple of Weeks a test should hopefully become more available ???
By:
moisok
When: 30 Mar 20 16:12
he really cannot help it  - a sad individual  - repeating published info  - amazing scenes
By:
casemoney
When: 30 Mar 20 16:12
South Korea's Motto has been TEST TEST TEST they have have kept the numbers down ..
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 30 Mar 20 16:13
Angoose needed to find some doom bless him

180 deaths isn't enough for him
By:
Injera
When: 30 Mar 20 16:13
But it does not give us a real-time snapshot of the number of coronavirus-related deaths in the UK, nor is it an accurate reflection of exactly where the UK is in the 'curve' of the outbreak.


There are a number of reasons for this. First, the numbers that are published each day include deaths that have occurred day, if not weeks earlier.

The list of deaths announced by NHS England in its bulletin of March 29 included deaths that were recorded as taking place as far back as March 16.

A death is only included in the figures once families of the victim have been informed.

So the day-on-day change in the official death figures is not moving in step with how many coronavirus-related deaths are taking place in real time.

Secondly, deaths being included in the official total are focused on those that have taken place in hospitals in England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

These provide the most immediate sources of data for the Department of Health, and which are then used for the daily updates.

NHS England, for instance, publishes a daily breakdown of coronavirus-related deaths in England by NHS Trust. Deaths that have occurred in the wider community are not included.

The Office for National Statistics (ONS) publishes weekly provisional figures on the total number of deaths registered in England and Wales, including the wider community, as well as whether the underlying cause of death is a respiratory disease.

But there is a lag in these figures of about 11 days - the latest ONS bulletin, published on March 24, had numbers up to the week ending March 13.

These figures are also based on when a death is registered, not when it occurred.

A third reason the official death figures do not give a real-time snapshot of where we are in the 'curve' of the outbreak is due to the amount of time that can pass between somebody contracting the virus and them losing their life through a coronavirus-related death.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8167719/20-patients-die-coronavirus-Scotland-Wales-UKs-death-toll-jumps-1-241.html
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 30 Mar 20 16:14
https://youtu.be/va6nPu-1auE

Angoose when he finds his doom info
By:
Angoose
When: 30 Mar 20 16:17
SontaranStratagem • March 30, 2020 3:54 PM BST

Cider

I expected more deaths today, probably 250+

SontaranStratagem • March 30, 2020 4:01 PM BST

So Monday is a low day for that reason, cider?

I'm expecting a big jump tomorrow, probably over 300
By:
Angoose
When: 30 Mar 20 16:17
Read what you write.
By:
Coachbuster
When: 30 Mar 20 16:19
Just intuitively, less people work on the weekends, especially admin types.
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By:
Coachbuster
When: 30 Mar 20 16:20
death figures  will pop up and down on some days  ..they did in Lombarby
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 30 Mar 20 16:26
Don't worry goose you'll get your doom throughout this
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