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Honestley we live in the age of hysteria the bbc want shot
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/52075063
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Old news, this is simply repeating the message that was delivered from the Imperial College report of March 16.
Do keep up. |
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tell that to your pals at the bbc its hot news on their news feeds
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50,000 people die in England and Wales every month anyway
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60k not unusual for March. Not allowed to introduce perspective though.....
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56,706 registered deaths in England and Wales during January of this year, 43,653 in February.
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March 2017 48,664, 2018 51,229, 2019 43,946
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yes but the corporal Jones of the forum is in full meltdown "Panic don't panic" the goose is here
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Facts, I deal in facts, figures, and verifiable data.
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no you don't goosebumps you revel in grabbing copying and pasting panic style whip it up news
not sure why you do it especially when there is so many markets out there to bet on |
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ok lets see how many more people die over the next 12 months the figures could show a narked drop off in the back end of the year due to seriously ill people dying off sooner rather than later. The numbers are still quite low considering the reaction
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Good point macarony.
Could be a high total for ‘20 and lower in ‘21. Nothing will be said though. |
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you are not implying that the 'excited' on here might be rather disappointed?
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will they include the flu and other related diseases lumped in to make the targets?
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Number of deaths in Spain .
2018 474,523 = 1300 per day. 2017 424,523 = 1163 2016 410,611 2015 422,568 Massive jump from ‘17. Incredible differences in Spain. |
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And your analysis of this says .......
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Macarony
Have you considered the possibility that the numbers are still quite low BECAUSE of the reaction. There was a report that 500,000 would die if we basically do f-all. The 20,000 is a "low" figure because we are not behaving normally. is that theory a bit complex to understand? |
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There is no number or set of actions that will cause the deniers to think rationally.
The more evidence that is presented, the more they will retreat in to their insular worlds of conspiracy. |
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A 50k increase in Spanish deaths from 17 to 18 is significant. Did the football season finish that year?
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Mexico do you belive that the cause of action we are taking is going to have one iota of difference? vunreable people are still having to fend for themselves by going out the house for basic requirements.
If the government had proveded for them then they could have self isolated in safety while the rest of society went about their normal business, because this virus will have little or no impact on the vast majority of the population |
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So go and so some research and see what the underlying causes were determined to be.
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macaroni, how old are you, just give a range if you don’t want to be precise.
Also, can you provide some idea of the basis for your analysis, they may want to recruit you at Imperial College. |
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Cummings was also looking for some new staff.
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Yes Macarony
I do believe that the course of action we are taking is going to have one iota of difference. I believe "social distancing " will help medics & reduce number of deaths. So do you believe carrying on as normal or staying this "lockdown " will result in basically the same amount of hospital cases & sane amount of deaths? |
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If the lockdown is proved to be effective, it could be used every year there’s a spike in winter deaths..
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What is this obsession about number of deaths?
That isn't what this is about The lock down is about the fact this virus makes a lot more people critically ill and thus need ventilation, long spells in hospital They are trying not to overwhelm the NHS, plus they don't want the doctors to be put into position where they are choosing who lives and dies, based on criteria. These people would ordinarily live in normal circumstances if ventilated. Imagine the mental disintegration of that over a period of time Think about what the doctors and nurses are going through, they are only human. The mental cost will be huge for both doctors and nurses. About 50 doctors have died in Italy, that's years and years of experience and skill wiped out in a few weeks. Add many more nurses etc the results are catastrophic We need to look past the deaths to the social/economic ramifications, they are huge and will be felt for years |
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Yep
Or maybe they could offer vulnerable groups a vaccine to keep down hospital visits to a level the NHS could cope with. Wonder why the government haven't offered everybody a vaccine for the Covid19 virus. Very strange- it is almost as if they don't have a vaccine. |
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Nobody has a vaccine yet
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A good point Jucel.
Does cut down options for government, they basically say stay at home to try and limit spread or carry on and accept that NHS can't cope & over hundred thousand people die (maybe 500k) Not really a choice, which I guess is why every country is doing something similar. |
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Imagine the glory for which country wins the race for the vaccine
Like winning the World Cup |
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yes mexico it will make no difference at all because people are still going out to shop etc and this 2m apart and face masks and gloves will not stop the spread of the virus because most transmission is throught the soft membrane in the eye and nose.
Closeing down most businesses will only result in wrecking the economy with pratical benefit what so ever. My wife works in the care industry and I have done most of her repetative annual coursework for the last 12 years, pointless and repetative time wasting done in your own time not theirs |
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It may be scientists from different countries working at a university.
A few leaders would like to be associated (especially if election in November) Prob Nobel prize for medicine for the scientists. BBC will find some female who made it all possible even if group was all male. |
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The biggest threat to the NHS is the long term damage to the economy this shutdown will have see how many busineeses reopen after the hysteria dies down no busisiness no tax no tax no NHS
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Mac
Very easy to find an extra £10bn a year - just stick 2p on basic income tax. Meanwhile every scientist says this virus will overwhelm the NHS & every country has imposed various forms of social distancing. Mac - you seem to be playing the part of Tom Baker/Captain Rum in saying "Opinion is devided on this" 500,00 dead is the prediction of doing basically nothing. & economy would still take a hit - nobody would allow anyone from UK to enter their country for months if we did f-all. |
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how do you know ?
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Prob Nobel prize for medicine for the scientists. BBC will find some female who made it all possible even if group was all male.
They are fast tracking Alex Scott through an Open University course in Medicine as we speak!!! |
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duffy do not get me started about her and that!!!!!!!!!
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neither lockdown nor deaths is good macarony ... but we don't know enough about this virus yet ...it could've gone onto to kill 200 ,000 or more even .
who do you isolate and for how long ? not a pleasant bug to pick up either ,young neigbour sounds like sh'es been at deaths door all this week with it ... it's not the sort of thing you can just go to work with . economy will be back on it's feet in no time ... people don't stop buying sofa's or beds ... gives the world a bit of perspective ...fook the money anyway |