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By:
Coachbuster
When: 06 Apr 20 14:35
terry ,only the very rich know where the money is going
By:
Coachbuster
When: 06 Apr 20 14:36
they're probably sitting around  deciding that one right now Shocked

you can guess the poorest in society will be the ones paying off any 'debts'
By:
terry mccann
When: 06 Apr 20 14:39
That very true Coach so follow them in
By:
Coachbuster
When: 06 Apr 20 14:46
where though Terry lol  ?


probably they will decide to invest in property ,who knows ...
By:
GAZO
When: 06 Apr 20 15:06
today its probally gone up because trump said the virus is levelling off in usa,he is starting to use the virus like he did the china trade deal
By:
terry mccann
When: 06 Apr 20 17:59
Huge amounts of money invested into world markets is the news im told,take it or leave it chaps but will be interesting to see how it pans.
By:
Cider
When: 06 Apr 20 18:21
The ftse 100 is heavily weighted with businesses with a global outlook. We've seen large fluctuations recently based on the oil price crash, and banks cancelling dividends (arms twisted), the fx rate also has a big impact.

In today's news, L&G climbs 16% as it's paying divi still, and the index #2 stock clawed back a bit after last week's large decline.

ftse 250 is generally considered a better barometer for assessing the domestic outlook.
By:
terry mccann
When: 06 Apr 20 18:29
Cider,you know far more than I do about it all,but im just going with the old saying about follow the money,it seems to work somehow don't know whyLaugh
By:
Cider
When: 06 Apr 20 18:47
I doubt we've seen the end of market pain, but with interest rates at near zero everywhere there'll be money coming into equities for the foreseeable.
By:
Coachbuster
When: 06 Apr 20 18:55
Cider,  what do you think will happen to interest rates in the next year  ?
By:
Cider
When: 06 Apr 20 19:52
I should imagine house prices will see declines and no risk of the economy overheating to undesired levels I don't anticipate much movement in central bank interest rates. What we should see is some industries recovering faster than others. It's a long way back for tourism and travel, perhaps it will never quite be the same again.
By:
Coachbuster
When: 06 Apr 20 19:54
ahh OK Cider , thanks for the input ,house falls wouldn't be such a bad thing
By:
Cider
When: 06 Apr 20 19:58
Negative equity is the kicker. In theory people should be better off than the GFC, what happens for people who can't recover their incomes and mortgage holidays end. Lots of amateur landlords and the incentive to be one is much lower than in used to be.
By:
akabula
When: 06 Apr 20 20:39
peckerdunne
Checkers oil did for Venezuela, you know that


This link shows Owen Jones getting educated on Venezuella.
Watch it pecker and you might learn something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTWrpMQJX04
By:
moisok
When: 06 Apr 20 20:50
the market will start to climb once the chinese get back in to buying chunks of the west plus africa
By:
peckerdunne
When: 06 Apr 20 20:57
Yes Aka

FIGHTING CRIME and the CAUSES OF CRIME
By:
akabula
When: 06 Apr 20 21:01
Whats that got to do with oil did for Venezuela?
By:
Coachbuster
When: 06 Apr 20 21:20
Negative equity is the kicker.

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Not good for recnt buyers i certainly  agree  but i always see it as a paper loss ....i had NE when i started out in the early years ... better than  high interest rates imo  ... i always think the houses will recover long  term  for those in NE ...the  trick is to keep on top of it all . Cool
By:
akabula
When: 06 Apr 20 21:32
The trick is not to sell Happy
By:
Cider
When: 06 Apr 20 21:41
It's the defaults. The market is already propped up artificially by htb. The banks will sell repos for what they can get, plus they will look for higher ltv in a falling market. As above we can expect travel to the property hotspot London to be depressed for a long time, and maybe foreign money looking to get out.
By:
Coachbuster
When: 06 Apr 20 21:54
yes that is certainly true Cider about the defaults ...   very uncertain times ahead
By:
GAZO
When: 06 Apr 20 22:50
not sure anybody knows what is going to happen,everything seems to be priced on the virus numbers, which depending on how long the lockdowns are here for the state of the economy is almost impossible to gauge,considering every time you put bloomberg on all you see is stimulus here  and stimulus there the economy's of most country's could be terrifying when this is over
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 07 Apr 20 08:44
There will be a lot of stimulating of the the debt. The bubble can not afford to be burst. Asset prices might Ashley go up at some point but right now who knows. The Uk and London is still a safe environment for anybody who is President for life and their families. Make no mistake about that!
By:
Cider
When: 07 Apr 20 16:15
Nobody knows what going to happen, they can have a good guess. It's boring but investing in markets is long term, and the vast evidence over history suggests at times of depression they will bounce back. It's the discipline of regularly putting money in, re-investing income (and not panic withdrawing) that's far more important than anything else.
By:
moisok
When: 07 Apr 20 16:16
mining could be good - chinese will be in there even more after this
By:
impossible123
When: 07 Apr 20 16:29
Accepted criteria post a big market correction after an act of nature eg invest in companies that are:-

1) Solvent, with positive cash flow
2) Defensive stocks eg utilities, etc.
3) Big fallers of the above
4) Cash investment (not credit/options/derivatives) - these could be manipulated.
By:
irishone
When: 07 Apr 20 17:02
cant pick a winner at cheltenham but a world leader in investment strategies
By:
terry mccann
When: 07 Apr 20 17:50
5704-Follow the money
By:
moonaxed
When: 07 Apr 20 17:59
Money talks
Bullshit walks
By:
moonaxed
When: 07 Apr 20 18:01
My Ocado shares cost me 2.43
All the founders started at Goldman Sachs
And paid sweet f a for their shares
By:
impossible123
When: 07 Apr 20 18:07
Ocado? Which City "investor" short it at £2 mark? Fingers burnt big time; £13 per share now.
By:
moonaxed
When: 07 Apr 20 18:23
No idea?
Seen them at 69p once
By:
impossible123
When: 07 Apr 20 20:52
Ocado was not making money a bit like Amazon in the early days (before the takeover of Whole foods) until their mega tie-up with Kroger in America; hedge funds like GMT Capitals, Kairos, Marshall Wace, Parvus, Hunt Lane and a few others got their fingers very burnt apparently shorting 7% of the then equity.

Even the ailing M&S paid £3/4bn for a bit of action with Ocado.
By:
moonaxed
When: 07 Apr 20 22:33
The technology side is the future of the company, shopping side not really profitable
By:
peckerdunne
When: 07 Apr 20 22:41
one of my stock has doubled in 10 days.............Laugh

2 more up 30%

pity i aint opened the live account just yet
By:
politicspunter
When: 07 Apr 20 22:47
I will tell you one thing I have done. I used to keep up to £5k all the time in my main exchange accounts. Luckily I had only a tenner in Matchbook when they went bust. Since then, I have withdrawn almost the lot and now keep about £200 in each account. They say they won't go bust but why take a chance?
By:
roadrunner46
When: 08 Apr 20 00:23
how the rich get richer - money in the world economy  DW Documentary youtube
By:
leif
When: 12 Apr 20 18:37
A fraction of companies applying for the Bank loans are, or will be 'eligible'

Picked up for pennies when they collapse.

This will be more of an economic disaster than we're prepared for.
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