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The government had no choice but to employ the virtual lock down but they clearly have failed to think everything through first - and they have had weeks to do so.
Supposing you live in a rural area (plenty do) and rely solely upon your car for supplies. The MOT expires and you cannot renew it because MOT stations are now shutting.
Hence, you either flout the law and drive without an MOT or starve.
I know things cannot be perfect but I make the above example to show that if you have a lock down you also need to think about relaxing a huge amount of rules) MOT dates for example).
I suspect this government is not yet agile minded enough to have realised this. More proof is in 'working from home'. Christ, they seem to think the majority of people can do this. I suspect at least 60% of the working population can't because of the nature of their jobs.
This government is too narrow minded in how it views its population. They need to wake up quick, otherwise the lock-down will be widely disobeyed.
Supposing you live in a rural area (plenty do) and rely solely upon your car for supplies. The MOT expires and you cannot renew it because MOT stations are now shutting.
Hence, you either flout the law and drive without an MOT or starve.
I know things cannot be perfect but I make the above example to show that if you have a lock down you also need to think about relaxing a huge amount of rules) MOT dates for example).
I suspect this government is not yet agile minded enough to have realised this. More proof is in 'working from home'. Christ, they seem to think the majority of people can do this. I suspect at least 60% of the working population can't because of the nature of their jobs.
This government is too narrow minded in how it views its population. They need to wake up quick, otherwise the lock-down will be widely disobeyed.
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Might be wrong but think there's a 3 month suspension and hence 3 month grace.
I would hope so Darla
otherwise as the OP says people will use their cars anyway
No MOT also means no tax or insurance either, both tax and insurance demand to see a new MOT
otherwise as the OP says people will use their cars anyway
No MOT also means no tax or insurance either, both tax and insurance demand to see a new MOT
"No MOT also means no tax or insurance either " - that's rubbish. Your insurance isnt linked to the MOT and neither is the tax unless you are at renewal date
I got an email from my local garage this morning saying they were remaining open for MOTs and essential repairs but with priority given to cars of key workers
deserves a 
...let us hope more garages show such enterprise
ideal opportunity for the smaller garages here, don't employ many staff, I would have though?
...let us hope more garages show such enterpriseideal opportunity for the smaller garages here, don't employ many staff, I would have though?
apologies wolf311
Of course mine all renew at same time, sorry for misleading people
Of course mine all renew at same time, sorry for misleading people
If you have no MOT, your insurance is invalid, and I doubt any insurance company would pay a claim.
I think garages are exempted. I did mine yesterday, and all was good.
I think if it's at the peak of the crisis then possibly a suspension of MOT with the approval of insurance companies until the crisis is over to avoid adverse ramification.
I think if it's at the peak of the crisis then possibly a suspension of MOT with the approval of insurance companies until the crisis is over to avoid adverse ramification.
Are MOTs cancelled?
The Government has said that garages can remain open with the Driver Vehicles and Standards Agency (DVSA) indicating that, for the moment, cars, motorbikes, light vans will still need a valid MOT.
This means if your vehicle's MOT is close to expiring then you will need to arrange to have a test carried out, otherwise you cannot drive it on the roads without voiding your insurance and leave you at risk of being fined.
However, the DVSA has suspended testing of all heavy goods vehicles (HGV), trailers and public service vehicles (PSV) for up to three months and said it is keeping testing of other vehicles under review.
The Government has said that garages can remain open with the Driver Vehicles and Standards Agency (DVSA) indicating that, for the moment, cars, motorbikes, light vans will still need a valid MOT.
This means if your vehicle's MOT is close to expiring then you will need to arrange to have a test carried out, otherwise you cannot drive it on the roads without voiding your insurance and leave you at risk of being fined.
However, the DVSA has suspended testing of all heavy goods vehicles (HGV), trailers and public service vehicles (PSV) for up to three months and said it is keeping testing of other vehicles under review.
Mar 24, 2020 -- 3:57PM, Darlo Bantam wrote:
If you have no MOT, your insurance is invalid, and I doubt any insurance company would pay a claim.
you're talking crap , most insurance policies will be valid whether you have an MOT or not
Mar 24, 2020 -- 3:50PM, UBLE/REGY wrote:
apologies wolf311Of course mine all renew at same time, sorry for misleading people
I havent a clue what you're on about but your tax suddenly doesnt just stop if your MOT expires and unless you make a claim on your insurance you are still insured to drive the car but the chitchat experts know better 
Neither do I wolf3011
...I wish I had not chipped in
I brought my car from new and have it MOT'ed there, I pay annual insurance and tax...so everything is always due by the same date
1st September
...I wish I had not chipped inI brought my car from new and have it MOT'ed there, I pay annual insurance and tax...so everything is always due by the same date
1st September
No MOT will automatically invalidate your insurance (claim or no claim) similarly a driving ban; no MOT = no renewal of car tax.
so many idiots online that think they know what they are talking about. I have been directly involved with this issue of insurance and whether an MOT invalidates it with questions posed to numerous companies and spoken to police but then a few bored people here know better. Most insurance companies will not invalidate your insurance if you are caught driving without an MOT... that's a fact so it's irrelevant how many people on here state otherwise
Mar 24, 2020 -- 5:23PM, UBLE/REGY wrote:
Neither do I wolf3011...I wish I had not chipped inI brought my car from new and have it MOT'ed there, I pay annual insurance and tax...so everything is always due by the same date1st September
Fair enough lol
MOTs for cars, motorcycles and light vans ARE currently still necessary despite the coronavirus crisis, the Department for Transport has stated.
The need to have a valid MOT has NOT currently been suspended.
“There are currently no exemptions for cars, motorcycles or vans,” confirmed a spokesperson from the DVSA, the DfT agency responsible for MOTs.
Garages carrying out MOTs are listed as exempted businesses as they are considered an ‘essential service’ to ensure vehicles remain safe and roadworthy.
If your MOT has run out, you cannot legally drive your car.
However, the decision to keep MOT testing in place for private motorists and van drivers remains under review.
The need to have a valid MOT has NOT currently been suspended.
“There are currently no exemptions for cars, motorcycles or vans,” confirmed a spokesperson from the DVSA, the DfT agency responsible for MOTs.
Garages carrying out MOTs are listed as exempted businesses as they are considered an ‘essential service’ to ensure vehicles remain safe and roadworthy.
If your MOT has run out, you cannot legally drive your car.
However, the decision to keep MOT testing in place for private motorists and van drivers remains under review.
Regardless I think I still make sure I have MOT for my car at all times for insurance purpose. I've just taxed my car too using a V11 16-digit online renewal which required an existing MOT and Insurance.
Problem with the MOT is if a car needs new parts to pass it, many of the places supplying these parts may be closed even if the MOT centres remain open
Can't understand how Goverment considered it nessarsary to order the closure of main dealer showrooms, with the loss of their vital servicing/MOT facilities, perhaps I can take my car to the local garden centre and get the work done, they left them open.
Probably be thousands driving to garden centres this weekend, if their cars got an MOT that is, and Government taken compleatly by surprise again.
Probably be thousands driving to garden centres this weekend, if their cars got an MOT that is, and Government taken compleatly by surprise again.
my classic motorbike supplier has closed
as for the merc!!!! what with merkel's vengeful marauders and all that - and I am trying to volunteer to help run stuff around!!!
as for the merc!!!! what with merkel's vengeful marauders and all that - and I am trying to volunteer to help run stuff around!!!
Are garden centers open , would like to buy some plants ??
Firstly, Covid-19 did not just appear suddenly - it's been on the news daily for a long while. Thus owners of vehicle requiring an MOT could have been more aware (last month and this month) despite one can only have one's done a month before (stand corrected). And, in the meantime one could have one's vehicle looked at (if concerned) by a local garage prior.
Similarly, there are online car parts delivery companies still doing delivery to households and garages; when there's will, there's a way. I'm sure come next month and possibly the month after if Covid-19 is at its peak MOT testing will be suspended, and probably a period of grace accorded to owners of vehicles (esp those in the countryside) with the approval of the Insurance companies; vehicles will less likely be on the road if under a "proper" lockdown anyway.
Personally, I'm more concerned about the exorbitant overdraft rate charged by banks and monthly repayment of credit cards; mortgage holders could apply for a mortgage holiday but will the same be accorded to users of overdraft and/or credit card?
Similarly, there are online car parts delivery companies still doing delivery to households and garages; when there's will, there's a way. I'm sure come next month and possibly the month after if Covid-19 is at its peak MOT testing will be suspended, and probably a period of grace accorded to owners of vehicles (esp those in the countryside) with the approval of the Insurance companies; vehicles will less likely be on the road if under a "proper" lockdown anyway.
Personally, I'm more concerned about the exorbitant overdraft rate charged by banks and monthly repayment of credit cards; mortgage holders could apply for a mortgage holiday but will the same be accorded to users of overdraft and/or credit card?
Government have just suspended MOTs , maybe someone was reading this thread
Sensible. On the other hand, no income for garage owners or workers; my garage was virtually surviving on MOT fees as all repair work had stopped prior. And, not stop altogether.
Apparently HSBC has suspended overdraft charges for 3 months from 1st April up to £300. This is a start, and I hope other banks and financial instis and credit card providers do the same.
The government has granted car owners a six-month exemption from MOT testing.
However, it won't come in until Monday 30 March which means vehicles due an MOT before then must still take it.
The Department for Transport said the move won't hit any insurance claims during the period because they will be effectively extending MOT certificates meaning they will remain valid for insurance purposes.
The new law will be introduced on 30 March when it will come into immediate effect for 12 months.
However, it won't come in until Monday 30 March which means vehicles due an MOT before then must still take it.
The Department for Transport said the move won't hit any insurance claims during the period because they will be effectively extending MOT certificates meaning they will remain valid for insurance purposes.
The new law will be introduced on 30 March when it will come into immediate effect for 12 months.
The Department for Transport said the move won't hit any insurance claims during the period because they will be effectively extending MOT certificates meaning they will remain valid for insurance purposes.
That seems at odds with what Wolf is saying.
That seems at odds with what Wolf is saying.
Suspended or not suspended....
I think we need to stop thinking about M.O.T testing. as an unnecessary inconvenience!
It is for the vehicle owners safety, and the safety of other road users, and also for confidence of the new purchaser,
in the event of a sale.
Without the discipline of having to get the vehicle tested, I doubt that many would get the vehicle checked,
and many of those, driving older cars, may not be having routine services carried out!
This could mean that problems witn, for instance damaged brake fluid lines, will not be recognised!
I had mine serviced this month, and part of that service is a full inspection, and with video evidence for the owner.
In my case they picked up a split, in an inside tyre wall, of which I would otherwise been unaware!
I think we need to stop thinking about M.O.T testing. as an unnecessary inconvenience!
It is for the vehicle owners safety, and the safety of other road users, and also for confidence of the new purchaser,
in the event of a sale.
Without the discipline of having to get the vehicle tested, I doubt that many would get the vehicle checked,
and many of those, driving older cars, may not be having routine services carried out!
This could mean that problems witn, for instance damaged brake fluid lines, will not be recognised!
I had mine serviced this month, and part of that service is a full inspection, and with video evidence for the owner.
In my case they picked up a split, in an inside tyre wall, of which I would otherwise been unaware!
Mar 26, 2020 -- 2:46AM, akabula wrote:
The Department for Transport said the move won't hit any insurance claims during the period because they will be effectively extending MOT certificates meaning they will remain valid for insurance purposes.That seems at odds with what Wolf is saying.
What part of " Most" insurance policies will not be invalidated with no MOT can't you grasp, is it really that hard to understand?
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