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TheGoldenVision
23 Mar 20 17:53
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Folk have been in total isolation for 3 weeks in the Lombardy region and yet reported deaths continue to rise. Unless they entered isolation already infected, 21 days ago, from where have they picked up their infections? It appears that they must have been virus free on entering lock-down but have become infected whilst in isolation!! Puzzling.
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Report ImSoLuckyLucky! March 23, 2020 4:54 PM GMT
Airbourne?

Sad
Report politicspunter March 23, 2020 4:58 PM GMT
Currently Italy have around 60K cases. Impossible to know when those folks were diagnosed.
Report rubhahunish March 23, 2020 4:59 PM GMT
jasonbourne?
Report CLYDEBANK29 March 23, 2020 4:59 PM GMT
Takes a while to die from infection in lots of cases.  3-7 days from infection to symptons, then another 7-14 days to the pneumonia stage, then however long it takes to either die or recover.  A lot of people with less severe symptons, that took longer to become severe, are dieing because they couldn't get treatment when their symptons were less severe.
Report Coachbuster March 23, 2020 5:03 PM GMT
as Clydebank says

some infected too by their partners who had it earlier
Report thegiggilo March 23, 2020 5:22 PM GMT
4700 cases again another 600 deaths,although decreasing very slowly.
Report Angoose March 23, 2020 5:26 PM GMT
Cases in Italy have grown by huge numbers on a daily basis

    Date    Day        Total   
    Pre March    1,128        1,128   
    01-Mar-20    573        1,701   
    02-Mar-20    335        2,036   
    03-Mar-20    466        2,502   
    04-Mar-20    587        3,089   
    05-Mar-20    769        3,858   
    06-Mar-20    778        4,636   
    07-Mar-20    1,247        5,883   
    08-Mar-20    1,492        7,375   
    09-Mar-20    1,797        9,172   
    10-Mar-20    977        10,149   
    11-Mar-20    2,313        12,462   
    12-Mar-20    2,651        15,113   
    13-Mar-20    2,547        17,660   
    14-Mar-20    3,497        21,157   
    15-Mar-20    3,590        24,747   
    16-Mar-20    3,233        27,980   
    17-Mar-20    3,526        31,506   
    18-Mar-20    4,207        35,713   
    19-Mar-20    5,322        41,035   
    20-Mar-20    5,986        47,021   
    21-Mar-20    6,557        53,578   
    22-Mar-20    5,560        59,138   
Report Angoose March 23, 2020 5:29 PM GMT
Active cases on 1 March was 1,577, had jumped to 46,638 by yesterday.
And that's the problem for the health services, new cases emerging must faster than cases being closed out, they are being swamped.
Report Angoose March 23, 2020 5:31 PM GMT
Lombardy was put on lockdown on 7 March, 16 days ago, just over two weeks, not the three quoted above.
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! March 23, 2020 5:32 PM GMT
Are you saying the case o/s are all on ventilators
Or just in icu and only a fraction able to have ventilators?
Report Angoose March 23, 2020 5:37 PM GMT
I have no idea how many of these cases require ventilators or to be in ICU.
Likely that not all will need such treatment.

However, it is clear that some patients are having to be kept at home when they do require to be admitted to hospital.
If you watch some of the reports from C4 news, you see such cases first hand.

Whole families watching a seriously ill relative gasping for breath whilst a Red Cross volunteer tells them that the patient will have to stay at home tonight, they'll check if a bed becomes available in the morning.

I've said it before, but the medical staff dealing with this will be changed forever at the end of this.
And not in a good way.
Report Angoose March 23, 2020 5:40 PM GMT
Italian figures released for today.
4,789 new cases, 601 more deaths, total now 6,077, 408 people recovered, 7,432 in total, 50,418 active cases.
Report Angoose March 23, 2020 5:44 PM GMT
That's two successive days where the death toll has fallen from the peak of 793 on 21 March, 651 and 601 last two days.
Similar trend for new cases, 6,557 on 21 March, 5,560 and 4,789 last two days.

Would be nice to think that this trend will continue.
Report Kriskin March 23, 2020 6:07 PM GMT
goose - that's a bit of good news in these difficult times
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! March 23, 2020 6:09 PM GMT
Running out of Vunerable people?
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