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exellent piece by peter hitchens re corovirus
exellent piece by peter hitchens re corovirus
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How long were you allowed out for?
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politicspunter
How long were you allowed out for? - Literal LOLed.  |
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Geo-engineering . org
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you lot can say what you wish
but it is sure on its may to smashing our economy up into little bits it is like a bull in a china shop - as they say interesting the chinese SAY they are well sorted 'what could we do next'? |
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The world is trillions in debt (to who)? so smash up the economy and start again this time with a cashless society eg digital currency. This virus is just perfect for sure a thing to happen
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The Knight 22 Mar 20 13:00
But what makes it worse is I suspect that our current course of action will be abandoned when the world realises the cost is too great. But that, I fear, will only be when the damage will have already been done. In other words, we will may well have wrecked our economies and yet still end up with the virus doing its worse. ----------- That is the nightmare scenario. |
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Germany has just banned gatherings of more than TWO people who aren't family members.
Who'd have thunk the Germans could be so authoritarian!! |
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I think Hitchens and all journalists are right to ask questions particularly to Dumb Dumb Dorris
The powers the Government are assuming need questioning particularly the length of time. They are seeking two years, why? Can you imagine losing your business and as a consequence your house and still carrying those debts because Dorris ordered your business to close but kept the airports open! The airports are still open, you know the ones that brought the disease in! |
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‘Listen to the experts’ they say.
The medical experts obviously want to save lives vs liberty. Even started to see a sneering tone from some of them demanding their advice is followed and salivating at the prospect of authoritarian powers to punish those who dare to disagree. Economic experts. Lol no such thing. Partly why its so hard to stop the medical tyrants. I doubt there are any experts in all of the medical, economic and political aspects of this. The experts i want to hear from are the experts in being over 70 and/ or with underlying conditions. Do they want younger, healthier people to stay indoors, pubs and restaurants to shut their doors, schools closed, curfews, police on the streets etc? Or would they prefer everyone else got on with their lives while they make their own choices about what to do. |
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Italy has 12,500 completed cases i.e. the individual has either recovered or died
Of these, 5,476 have died, that's 43.8% of completed cases. There are currently 46,638 active cases. Apply the same percentage to that and you have a further 20,427 deaths.  |
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wonder what businessmen are involved in government? or even giving advice
who would benefit from the trashing of western economies? |
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After covid-19 just hope we have enough money in the tank to fight off the possiblities of covid-20, covid-21, covid.....
Best to switch on the mega photocopiers to ramp up QE. |
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plus all the needles deaths from other conditions because health service is over run, which will happen anyway if you just let the virus run its course carry on regardless, are hitchens and co going to go round all the houses of people who wouldn't haver died from their condition if the nhs wasn't overun by a virus we didn't try to stop,slow down the spread,
very clever man hitchen probably speaks good Italian wonder how his speech would have went down if he give it in Italy today |
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He's amusing that's about it,typically privileged like johnson and co but ironically nowhere near as bad,he's always worth a read if you want a laugh..
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thegiggilo - which part of ‘50 000 excess deaths in ‘17-‘18’ made you laugh the most?
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Who said i was talking about that article,why would i be interested in any article by some nobody like peter hitchen ffs..
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would i be interested in any article by some nobody like peter hitchen ffs..
You must be interested or you wouldn't have commented |
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You seem confused thegiggilo.
You can't find him amusing if you don't read his stuff. |
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Have seen him interviewed a few times and found his dry wit amusing,that's it amusing not to be taken seriously as a nobody..
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Why is he a nobody, what warrants being somebody ?
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What warrants him being worthy of taking seriously on a dealy pandemic all around the globe..bar refelcting some muiddle aged older gentleman on a betting site..
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He’s mainly quoting others.
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Why care about someones age ?
Seems crazy. |
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A degree of scepticism is never a bad attribute.
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A mere title, a white coat, a smooth manner, a winning way with long words and technical jargon, will never again be enough for me.
Like any profession it has more than its fair share of bull5hitters |
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right peter ,youve got the I told you so article on the record
your suggestion must be in next weeks paper seems to me theres only 3 strategies,and were on number 2 airline grounded,economy growing to a halt any way because of rest of worlds reaction, nhs will eventually crumble just a matter of time under our 1st 2 scenario,s, which leaves the 3rd,wgici we carry on working,living as normal infecting more and more people ,refusing to hospitalise people for corona,led the dying die a horrible death at home surrounded by people not used to coping with it as the nhs carry,s on treating normal patients as though corona wasn't happening, people seem to think there either dying or no mild symptons ,when theres millions in between who wouldn't be able to go to work,like a rough dose of normal flu, imagine outcome 3 in usa with their health care system and public armed to the teeth seems to me given the 3 options hitchens would go for the current option but say he,s not happy about the possible consequences exactly the same as Johnson is doing, if hitchens would do option 1 herd immunity,or 3 no treatment of victims he should tell us people only need apply the 3 options to Italy and decide which on they,d take but at least I told you so is on the record |
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In those days I believed, as so many do, in the medical profession. I was awed by their qualifications. Yet the prospect of a rather nasty operation filled me with gloom and doubt. As I waited miserably for the anaesthetist in the huge London hospital to which I had been sent, a new doctor appeared. I braced myself for another session of being asked ‘Does this hurt?’ and replying, between clenched teeth, that yes it blinking well did. But this third man was different. He did not ask me pointlessly if it hurt. He knew it did. He was, crucially, a thinking man who did not take for granted what he was told
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copied the beginning part wrong sorry, this is what it should say ^
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Bit alarmist from Peter. In a couple of weeks you should know where you are vis a vis Italy, so not much to ask to take precautious which may seem over the top after the fact. The problem with the general public is they are of average intelligence, which means about half are below average and given the lack of conformity with government requests to socially distance so far from a lot of stupid/selfish idiots, it is clear that the general public need to be told not asked what to do.
There are a lot of factors which make Italy look like a unique case, but given the gravity of the risk rather than the risk itself, it is not a risk worth taking to find out the hard way whether that is actually the case. Nobody is talking about these measures staying in place indefinitely which he seems to imply might be the case. Economic damage is a given whatever course of action is taken but it's the same everywhere. And it's not the current figures which are the problem, it's the potential for them to grow at an alarming rate like in Italy and we haven't got there yet but will find out very shortly if it is to happen. |
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Until you see a clear deviation from the path Italy went on, which should be apparent in about a week, the measures can't be considered anything other than prudent compared to doing less or doing nothing
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The problem with the general public is they are of average intelligence, which means about half are below average and given the lack of conformity with government requests to socially distance so far from a lot of stupid/selfish idiots, it is clear that the general public need to be told not asked what to do.
Out of context, that doesn’t sound like a vey healthy precedent for governing |
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Lots of people demonstrating the benefits of hindsight and sniping criticism.
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Any healthy people ( no illness , no obesity ,not health workers ) in their 20's /30's /40's dying from this virus ? % is either tiny or nobody.
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There's always some with every disease, someone I know had a heart attack when he was 20.
That Dr. McDougall reckons he suffered a stroke when he was 19. |
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After covid-19 just hope we have enough money in the tank to fight off the possiblities of covid-20, covid-21, covid.
__________________________________ and i've only just recovered from covid 18 |
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"treetop • March 23, 2020 11:34 AM GMT
Lots of people demonstrating the benefits of hindsight and sniping criticism." Fantasticly incisive short post. Out of all this sh1t (and it's not been great) the uncanny ability of ever opinionated fecker to have 20/20 hindsight is one othe most sad. The predictable arrogant damaged ****wits who who never believe in reality anyway and always know better as it's a "conspiracy" were always a given ;) |
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Hitchens needs to wind his neck in, people like him (Journos) and others have been peddling this shyte since the Spanosh flu....
Derby and Chesterfield Reporter, 12 July 1918, declared that it was “not really a matter for alarm”. The Manchester Guardian scorned protective measures: “Women are not going to wear ugly masks.” What’s more, masks would steam up people’s glasses, and be of “doubtful usefulness at mealtimes”. The Sussex Daily News joked that influenza was no more than “an ingenious attempt” to sabotage the forthcoming general election, while Hanningtons department store in Brighton declared that the best way of treating influenza was spending money at their sale. He is JUMPING on the 'Narcissus Waggon' (like those 'fckin celebs') just in a poncier way. NOBODY FCKIN KNOWS ANYTHING SUBSTANTIAL YET!!!, it's too early, but hey presto the many 'experts on here have all the answers!. |
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Hey JC,
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I could print a book on this and elaborate more succinctly, but that would not penetrate the foil hat brigade and other dumbfckers who know it all, that's why the above is such a simple example.
I can't be @rs-e-d. |