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Torquemada
18 Mar 20 23:11
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Eating infected meat?

Disgusting farming practices in China?

What was it exactly? I’ve hardly heard a squeak about that during the constant fearmongering. Shouldn’t we be concentrating a bit on making sure it doesn’t happen again?
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Report Just Checking March 18, 2020 11:49 PM GMT
DNA is close to a virus found in bats, but perhaps not close enough for a direct jump so theory I read was it may have been two jumps via an intermediate unknown carrier? They are still looking, if there was a smoking gun we'd have heard about it.
You can be sure they are looking? When you think of a chinese meat market, you don't get a mental image like Tesco, and we can't control that.
Report flushgordon1 March 19, 2020 6:37 AM GMT
You can understand this push to get populations to eat insects now, eat all the bat food no more bats.
Report GAZO March 19, 2020 7:03 AM GMT
created in a lab in Wuhan,accidently got out,the doctor who first noticed it and asked questions if others had seen this virus was arrested and had to sign a disclosure saying he was wrong and has since died from the virus.
Report Crisp77 March 19, 2020 8:41 AM GMT
Carol from Essex likely involved
Report sageform March 19, 2020 8:56 AM GMT
If a smoking gun could be traced to the Chinese authorities we won't hear anything. The most likely answer is mutation which is the same cause as every other epidemic in humans, mammals and plants for millions of years. Swine flu, bird flu and all of the other diseases that jumped from one species to another are the same. I was a pig farmer for 30 years and we went to great lengths to isolate them from other pigs and potential vectors of disease such as birds, rodents and humans. Isolation of the animals and disinfecting everyone and every vehicle who came to the farm. The human population behave in a way which is ideal for spreading disease so the isolation policies should teach us to be more careful in future.
Report thegiggilo March 19, 2020 10:05 AM GMT
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/virus-biological-us-army-w...
Report lurka March 19, 2020 11:38 AM GMT
Considered most likely cause is bat to pangolin to humans, same as SARS 2003.

Conspiracy theories are:-

1) US army personnel spread it at the World Military games in Wuhan in October 2019, when the US team were staying very close to the seafood market where the initial outbreak is thought to have occurred and their performance at the games was disproportionately below average almost to the point that they had no real interest in competing - that's the theory on the Chinese internet, probably helped to be spread by the government.

2) The Chinese built a very hi-tech lab in Wuhan after SARS 2003 to study infectious diseases and some suspect they are secretly developing biological weapons like this there and that it accidentally leaked out and that's why they initially tried to cover it up and suppress talk about it.

3) Then there's the curious case of Charles Lieber a Chemistry and Biology Professor at Harvard who was found to have taken millions in funding from the Chinese govt without declaring it (a criminal offence for which he has been charged) and was paid €50k a month to help develop a lab at Wuhan University (primarily an engineering uni), travelling there regularly. His area of expertise is nanoengineering and not viruses but this virus contains nanoparticles and perhaps some expertise in that field would be required to develop it. 2 Chinese 'students' in the US on J1 visas were arrested in connection to this, one of them a Chinese Communist party member and the other a Lieutenant in the Chinese army, ie not merely students. One of them was stopped at Boston airport awaiting a flight to China with 21 vials of 'biological research' wrapped in a sock in his bag. He claims he was taking them to the Wuhan Uni lab to develop them and pass them off as his own research. None of this is apparently related to the coronavirus tho and very little has been written about it in the media but it is all true. The other one was found to be in regular contact with Chinese govt officials throughout her stay.
Report lurka March 19, 2020 11:40 AM GMT
If you look up Lieber there is an official US govt press release giving all the details above, so it is not made up.
Report TimmyRiggins March 19, 2020 4:13 PM GMT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-DRhUDK738&t=
Report TimmyRiggins March 19, 2020 4:14 PM GMT
Osterholm breaks it down in a few minutes on Rogan.
Report UBLE/REGY March 19, 2020 4:42 PM GMT
flushgordon1
19 Mar 20 06:37
Joined: 25 Jun 11 | Topic/replies: 15,824 | Blogger: flushgordon1's blog
You can understand this push to get populations to eat insects now, eat all the bat food no more bats.


I think I would rather risk the coronavirus...ughTongue Out
Report Just Checking March 19, 2020 5:53 PM GMT
"His area of expertise is nanoengineering and not viruses but this virus contains nanoparticles and perhaps some expertise in that field would be required to develop it. "
FFS ...
Report timbuctooth March 20, 2020 5:26 AM GMT
This was no accident, it was a desperate and deliberate last ditch attempt at bringing down The Don. In a normal world, he`s unbeatable; the only chance leftie globalists have is a catastrophic event such as this. It will also hastens fruition of Mao`s `100 Year Plan` for global domination, set in action after the Chinese Revolution in 1949. Xi will relish being the man to fulfill Mao`s dream of destroying Western Capitalism, of achieving Chinese global supremacy, what cares he for innumerable dead along the way? After all, that`s historically been the totalitarian leftie`s way, it`s what they do, kill millions of their own people, and he`ll simply write it out of the history books, as they have done with Tianamen Square, while all non-Chinese can look forward to the same ethnic cleansing as the Uyghurs
Report trilby22 March 20, 2020 8:05 AM GMT
Agenda 21!
Report burgess March 20, 2020 8:15 AM GMT
Makes you wonder how easy  it would be for extraterrestrials to knock us off.
Report dave1357 March 20, 2020 9:19 AM GMT
^^timmeh doesn't sound like a lunatic at all in that post.
Report thegiggilo March 20, 2020 10:16 AM GMT
timbuctooth 20 Mar 20 05:26 
This was no accident, it was a desperate and deliberate last ditch attempt at bringing down The Don. In a normal world, he`s unbeatable; the only chance leftie globalists have is a catastrophic event such as this. It will also hastens fruition of Mao`s `100 Year Plan` for global domination, set in action after the Chinese Revolution in 1949. Xi will relish being the man to fulfill Mao`s dream of destroying Western Capitalism, of achieving Chinese global supremacy, what cares he for innumerable dead along the way? After all, that`s historically been the totalitarian leftie`s way, it`s what they do, kill millions of their own people, and he`ll simply write it out of the history books, as they have done with Tianamen Square, while all non-Chinese can look forward to the same ethnic cleansing as the Uyghurs


CHORTLE CHORTLE
Report lurka March 20, 2020 10:31 AM GMT
They haven't killed millions of their own though have they? If fact they have a remarkably low death count/rate for a country of 1.5bn (not 2bn as the expert on Joe Rogan stated) where the virus has been found in all regions of China, but of course that could rise for as long as there is no widely available vaccine.

Nanotechnology and nanoengineering is instrumental in the development of a vaccine. Virions of coronavirus are in the form of spheres with an average diameter of 125 nm. Given their high specific surface area and the possibility of being functionalized with a wide range of functional groups, nanomaterials such as gold nanoparticles and carbon quantum dots (CQDs) are standout choices for interacting with viruses and preventing their entry into cells.
https://statnano.com/news/67483/Coronavirus-
Outbreak-No-Worries-Nanotechnology-Is-There-to-Help!

I doubt if it was engineered it would have been willingly released without a vaccine having already been developed. So, from an animal or accidental leak from a lab are the most likely imo.
Report Dr Crippen March 20, 2020 11:01 AM GMT
Might have a vaccine.

Any world leaders gone down with it yet?
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