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Chief Science Officer just said to select committee.
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Report Angoose March 17, 2020 3:29 PM GMT
Scary stuff, especially when you consider that the cumulative global number is currently 7,511.
Report UBLE/REGY March 17, 2020 3:36 PM GMT
As long as it does not include me...I am fine with it
Report Dr Crippen March 17, 2020 3:37 PM GMT
Chief Science Officer just said to select committee.

Yes I heard him say that.

I also heard him say on the radio that wearing a face doesn't help. Yet all the front line medical staff wear them.

So we've got two accounts today, one 20,000 deaths and the other reckons 250,000. What worries me is having people like these advising the government.
Report lovegod March 17, 2020 3:42 PM GMT
Is Ms Abbott doing the figures?
Report jollyswagman March 17, 2020 3:45 PM GMT
according to the model if no action at all was taken the total would be at least 500,000 with about 12,000 a day dying at the peak.

the risk with the new policy is, even if the assumptions are right this time, people getting bored as time goes on and there being a spike later in the year/next year.
Report Dr Crippen March 17, 2020 3:49 PM GMT
Reminds me of George C. Scott as General Buck Turgidson in Dr Strangelove.

When he was advising the president of the estimated casualties if America got in first with a nuclear strike.

Turgidson:

''Mr. President, I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed, but I do say no more than 10 to 20 million killed, tops! Uh, depending on the breaks.''

Muffley:

''I will not go down in history as the greatest mass murderer since Adolf Hitler.''
Report SontaranStratagem March 17, 2020 4:10 PM GMT

Mar 17, 2020 -- 4:45PM, jollyswagman wrote:


according to the model if no action at all was taken the total would be at least 500,000 with about 12,000 a day dying at the peak.the risk with the new policy is, even if the assumptions are right this time, people getting bored as time goes on and there being a spike later in the year/next year.


Aren't you reading it properly, jolly?

"IF no action at all is taken"

So action will be taken and the numbers will come down, its being done from a modelling system its all nonsense

Report SontaranStratagem March 17, 2020 4:12 PM GMT
Society is a guinea pig
Report jollyswagman March 17, 2020 4:17 PM GMT
if they did nothing at all those are the numbers, and there is a massive assumption in there about the nhs so it may have been worse.
Report thegiggilo March 17, 2020 4:21 PM GMT
Only 20 deaths in germany on those figures thats 0.2% hopefully will be somewhere in the middle of that..
Report SontaranStratagem March 17, 2020 4:37 PM GMT
NHS now saying only essential visitors will be seen, basically translated as the old are goners if they get anything
Report SontaranStratagem March 17, 2020 4:38 PM GMT
These sick twisted bas*ards don't want to pay them their lifetime pensions

The young will be happy enough to play along with this
Report 1st time poster March 17, 2020 4:40 PM GMT
are you suggesting a cull,strat CryCry
Report 1st time poster March 17, 2020 4:40 PM GMT
are you suggesting a cull,strat CryCry
Report SontaranStratagem March 17, 2020 4:41 PM GMT
Its been that way for years 1TP, my grandad and grandma were basically left to die, given their morphine and "nothing we can do"
Report SontaranStratagem March 17, 2020 4:42 PM GMT
But its being said now, its all out in the open
Report jollyswagman March 17, 2020 4:45 PM GMT
dont be silly s s , this is worse for old people - those more likely to vote tory. they waited too long to do something and then made a bad choice. incompetence not a conspiracy.
Report SontaranStratagem March 17, 2020 4:46 PM GMT
The government are working of a modelling system jolly

Hence Johnson and Trump looking totally and utterly clueless
Report Coachbuster March 17, 2020 4:49 PM GMT
20,000 seems far too low  . Confused

100,000  would normally be seriously ill or in the last throws normally over the next 3 or 4 months as it is  ...so they are saying it will only finish off the very worst cases  ?
Report SontaranStratagem March 17, 2020 4:52 PM GMT
I'm guessing 250,000 over the next 12 months, that would be about right

Maybe 350,000 will be the finishing number, and lets just say yeah that amount of people died? it would be 98% over 60s with pre existing health conditions that were left to die because the NHS stopped/banned them from healthcare

500,000 isn't out the question if you factor in that 98% either
Report SontaranStratagem March 17, 2020 4:53 PM GMT
98% maybe a bit over the top, maybe 85% with the other 15% being people with health problems anyway
Report SontaranStratagem March 17, 2020 4:54 PM GMT
But it wont be this virus that kills them, it will be lack of health care/drugs they are on for existing health conditions, ie diabetics etc
Report SontaranStratagem March 17, 2020 4:55 PM GMT
In fact if that was the case you'd be looking at over 500,000 people because I'd wager at least 1,000,000 people are on prescription drugs for all kinds of things? and they need them as well Sad
Report terry mccann March 17, 2020 4:55 PM GMT
1,300 a day on average die in England or 500,000 a year so unless the Government know something we don't,the whole thing is way over the top.
Report SontaranStratagem March 17, 2020 4:56 PM GMT
Terry

Its basically a lie to give an excuse to bring about the NWO, hate that phrase really do but its best way to describe it

"fintech" in America go look it up
Report SontaranStratagem March 17, 2020 4:58 PM GMT
I don't take any type of drug, not even for headache or toothache, I've been saying for years get the right diet for your body, everyone's different so different diet needed
Report 1st time poster March 17, 2020 5:03 PM GMT
didn't get his name but he,s someones tory mp on health select committee , vallance the scientist said it was ok if you were fit to have a walk in the garden round the block as long as you kept away from people, this mp live on tv asked so for health reasons keep healthy would it be ok to go with a friend for a round of golf, I ho9nestrly didn't believe there were people alive as thick and stupid as this, never mind mp,s
Report breadnbutter March 17, 2020 5:06 PM GMT
Don't talk rubbish, it's called triage system,the word comes from the napoleon wars, no point clogging the beds and ventilators up with people that won't recover. People that were fit and healthy and have highest chance of recovery will be given priority, bbc scotland yesterday and other media outlets were giving airtime to old folks grumbling about being under "lock down" with no mention of how the hospitals will be swamped and they won't get into car park let alone front door.Media are a shower of scum and need reigned in.The debate should have been about stay in and take responsibility for yourself as if you get it your likely to die.Also how do you keep front line health workers free from the virus? Worst thing you can do right now is visit doctor or go to hospital for anything. People need to realise as soon as it gets messy things will change rapidly and there will be very little help, they will be swamped quickly.
Report Injera March 17, 2020 5:07 PM GMT
Sir Patrick said keeping the number of coronavirus deaths in the UK at '20,000 and below' would be a 'good outcome' but still 'horrible'.

'That is the hope that we can get it down to that,' he said.

'To put that into perspective every year in seasonal flu the number of deaths is thought to be about 8,000.

'So if we can get this down to numbers 20,000 and below that is a good outcome in terms of where we would hope to get to in this outbreak.

'But I mean it is still horrible. That is still an enormous number of deaths and it is an enormous pressure on the health service.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8121845/Governments-chief-scientifi...
Report SontaranStratagem March 17, 2020 5:13 PM GMT
20,000? more than that if this was legit

You're talking 250,000/500,000+
Report SontaranStratagem March 17, 2020 5:13 PM GMT
At least!!!!
Report SontaranStratagem March 17, 2020 5:13 PM GMT
Why are they downplaying the numbers now?
Report SontaranStratagem March 17, 2020 5:35 PM GMT
Oh and all this money surfacing for bail outs

That's where it went in 2008 all that missing money
Report Eric.Cartman March 17, 2020 6:02 PM GMT
20,000 is nowhere near enough...i'm sick of the queues in the Post office
Report terry mccann March 17, 2020 6:10 PM GMT
Its weird,ive not met or heard of anyone actually being ill though this??
Report Dr Crippen March 17, 2020 6:14 PM GMT
Funny that Terry, I asked a nurse who amongst other things does home calls if she'd seen anyone with the virus?

She shook her head and said no as well.
Report Dr Crippen March 17, 2020 6:15 PM GMT
That was yesterday.
Report Coachbuster March 17, 2020 6:32 PM GMT
latest plan is to send the oldies off to Tristan de Cunha
Report terry mccann March 17, 2020 6:37 PM GMT
Its monumental boll0cks Doctor,hardly watch the news but by Christ the BBC are milking it for everything they are worth, the elites **** for sure
Report terry mccann March 17, 2020 6:37 PM GMT
*arse hole
Report treetop March 17, 2020 9:41 PM GMT
The BBC are trying to present themselves as indispensable to the country by giving us 24 hour news on this issue.Switched the TV off at 6-00 and instantly felt better Laugh
Report sofiakenny March 17, 2020 10:36 PM GMT
bbc = boris broadcastining company..exective director ratboy cummings.
Report SontaranStratagem March 17, 2020 10:47 PM GMT
People are making money of it on youtube by fear mongering

This Chris Martenson ffs, watched like 2 minutes and thought nah. "UK making a real run now" what is it a 5f dash down wind at Epsom?

Fack off
Report jollyswagman March 17, 2020 10:54 PM GMT
it is free to watch, he was warning of this virus in late january
Report SontaranStratagem March 17, 2020 10:59 PM GMT
Yeah when China had already had it

And its not hard to predict something that was already readily available to find because they don't hide these things Jolly

Event 201, they were doing a test run for it in October 2019

All the info is there
Report SontaranStratagem March 17, 2020 11:00 PM GMT
Who the sod knows what's going off in China

France were protesting the other day, out in the streets in numbers but our media are saying they are under lock and key

What is the French media telling their people when it comes to us?
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