Education today

I still think kids should go to pirate school and learn the three Aarrrrrrrrrrrrrrs

I'm gonna have to demand a link about the muslim v christian thing; especially as the parents at our school are up in arms at some getting to go to the (good) catholic senior school while others are forced to go to the (rubbish) proddy one.


Apart from that I'm all for it. Get into people's heads early that we're all different but the same; that whether you fancy a boy or a girl isn't really that important and certainly not the basis for choosing to look down on other people.

Hopefully the adults in 20-30 years time will be less consumed by hate and fear than the current mob.

Inculcate infants to believe what you believe, before they can think for themselves, that's how religions work.

lol Crisp

The opening post is of course an oxymoron.  I'm not quite sure how women's rights and same sex marriage cosy up with the Muslim religion.  Maybe it's a typo, maybe it's Fake News, or maybe it's just hypocritical BS.

I'm not quite sure of the validity of the term "christian values" either.  I think "scientific values" or "free market, non dynastic values" would be far more appropriate.

This country led the world in both in the 19th century, because of both, and freed Europe twice during the 20th century and we should be embracing our heritage, like we used to.

Christianity held the world back.  It was the breaking free from christian values, and embracing science, that has led to the comfortable and healthier lives we lead today.

Clydesdale

Muslim prayer is in the British values test Christianity isn't and that was my point

Since when did having severe disability become a "value" anyway?

If I had kids I'd be deeply concerned about them entering what is undoubtedly a left-wing education system, being indoctrinated 5 days a week to hate their ancestry and themselves.  Perhaps there are some fee-paying schools that don't do this.

It is a worry that nearly all the younger teachers have exactly the same political agenda, and those who don't keep quiet. My brother has just retired from teaching and latterly avoided conversation with most of em in the staffroom.

I don't know why kids go to school anymore. Anything educational I learnt at school can be googled and answered in an instant.

Younger teachers have come out the university system which is a breeding ground for left "liberal" ideology

All the Ofsted inspectors are the same, all women with clipboards who are easily triggered into a "feminist" rant, only consolation is they are easily put in their box but they aren't intelligent enough to know they've been put in that box though

The biggest concern in regards to these "values" is the womens rights and civil protesting, like protesting seems to be a big thing for them which achieves nothing long term, so what if you get the next "right" where does it end? we've gone from them wanting the right to vote to wanting more and more and more

The best tactic is to join the green ones and host meetings at your nice comfortable home.  Plenty of fair trade wine by the gallon and lots of nuts to add with the nuts and see how it pans out.  For me it is a pu$$y magnet.  After all - what do they do after some rants to prove their correctness.  Give a real (but lying) speech and you will become a guru over night.

You see I am not as dumb as people think I am.

or  try claiming you are a refugee   - they love a good refugee

but not in a nice comfortable home - the aim here is to get into theirs!!!!!!!!!!

The appalling standard of education in the UK today has nothing to do with so called liberal attitudes from younger teachers, nothing to do with so called left-wingers and nothing to do with today's political agenda. 

It started in the 90s when Major introduced league tables for schools. The idea was to reward the best performing schools with more funding - which did make some sense. The problem was measuring who were the best performing schools; there's a huge difference between schools in deprived areas and affluent ones. The message was clear: improve your results or your funding will be reduced and, as if my magic, school's performance did improve.

The problem was they improved results by lowering educational standards and grade inflation; just award students better marks and you've solved the problem. Combine this with easier exams and easier qualifications such as BTEC and everyone is happy.

Apply the same principle to A Levels and Degrees and you end up with students' achieving 'better' results but knowing nothing.

To be fair the government has tried to address this in the last couple of years hence the furore when results are announced.

The system is not fit for purpose. Until we stop being exam results driven (i.e GCSE/Alevel) we are totally Fcked. You simply cannot have a system that tries to fit all in this day and age. It's ancient thinking. Bring back a 'learn a trade' option at leavers age that doesn't make kids feel the have failed by doing so. Don't knock 'mental health' either. Youngsters today are under more pressure than ever, much of which is exam driven. You don't always have to pass exams to be successful.