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Home Secretary Priti Patel has defended plans to deport 50 people to Jamaica on Tuesday, after more than 170 MPs called for the flight to be halted. She said those on the flight had been convicted of "serious offences" carrying sentences of more than a year.
She was bound by legislation to deport them, she said.
But shadow home secretary Diane Abbott said the move was unfair as some had come to the UK as children and "have no memory" of the country of their birth. It comes after a leaked draft of the Windrush scandal report said the government should consider ending the deportation of foreign-born offenders who came to the UK as children.
Ahead of the flight on Tuesday, protests against the deportations took place on Monday evening outside Downing Street. Meanwhile, a legal challenge that was launched against the flight by a firm representing its potential passengers has been refused by the High Court.
Duncan Lewis Solicitors had argued that the flight's passengers include people who are "potential victims of trafficking, groomed as children by drugs gangs running county lines networks and later pursued in the criminal justice system as serious offenders".
The flight from the UK to Kingston is due to leave on 11 February and is expected to include a man who arrived in the UK aged five.
In the Commons, Labour's shadow home secretary Ms Abbott said there was "widespread concern", saying the deportation flight "constitutes double jeopardy because the persons have already served an appropriate sentence for their crime". She added: "Many of the proposed deportees came here as children and have no memory of Jamaica."
Ms Patel said every person on the flight had been convicted of a "serious offence and received a custodial sentence of 12 months or more". Therefore under legislation introduced by a Labour government in 2007, she said, "a deportation order must be made".
She was bound by legislation to deport them, she said.
But shadow home secretary Diane Abbott said the move was unfair as some had come to the UK as children and "have no memory" of the country of their birth. It comes after a leaked draft of the Windrush scandal report said the government should consider ending the deportation of foreign-born offenders who came to the UK as children.
Ahead of the flight on Tuesday, protests against the deportations took place on Monday evening outside Downing Street. Meanwhile, a legal challenge that was launched against the flight by a firm representing its potential passengers has been refused by the High Court.
Duncan Lewis Solicitors had argued that the flight's passengers include people who are "potential victims of trafficking, groomed as children by drugs gangs running county lines networks and later pursued in the criminal justice system as serious offenders".
The flight from the UK to Kingston is due to leave on 11 February and is expected to include a man who arrived in the UK aged five.
In the Commons, Labour's shadow home secretary Ms Abbott said there was "widespread concern", saying the deportation flight "constitutes double jeopardy because the persons have already served an appropriate sentence for their crime". She added: "Many of the proposed deportees came here as children and have no memory of Jamaica."
Ms Patel said every person on the flight had been convicted of a "serious offence and received a custodial sentence of 12 months or more". Therefore under legislation introduced by a Labour government in 2007, she said, "a deportation order must be made".
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David Lammy said: “The question today is: why have they resumed those flights? In light of the scandal of people who arrived in this country as children, how can he guarantee to the House that there are not people who are British nationals?
“We are almost now two years on and people watching see the way this government holds in such disrespect the contribution of West Indian, Caribbean and black people in this country. When will black lives matter once again?”
“We are almost now two years on and people watching see the way this government holds in such disrespect the contribution of West Indian, Caribbean and black people in this country. When will black lives matter once again?”
The government has received a blow to its plans to deport about 50 people to Jamaica after one of two legal actions to try to halt the scheduled flight succeeded.
The court of appeal made the ruling in an emergency out-of-hours hearing on Monday night, ordering the Home Office not to remove anyone scheduled to be deported from two detention centres near Heathrow on the 6.30am flight to Jamaica on Tuesday – “unless satisfied (they) had access to a functioning, non-O2 Sim card on or before 3 February”.
There has been a problem with the O2 phone network in the Heathrow detention centres since last month so many detainees have not been able to exercise their legal right to contact their lawyers.
The court of appeal made the ruling in an emergency out-of-hours hearing on Monday night, ordering the Home Office not to remove anyone scheduled to be deported from two detention centres near Heathrow on the 6.30am flight to Jamaica on Tuesday – “unless satisfied (they) had access to a functioning, non-O2 Sim card on or before 3 February”.
There has been a problem with the O2 phone network in the Heathrow detention centres since last month so many detainees have not been able to exercise their legal right to contact their lawyers.
So if they flush their functioning non O2 sim down the toilet the government will have to prove they had it at some point 
windrush scandal report
Russia report
hs2 report
immigration paper
come on lads lets be avin yeh
Russia report
hs2 report
immigration paper
come on lads lets be avin yeh
Feb 10, 2020 -- 8:33PM, akabula wrote:
They are criminals so why is anybody bothered?
I think is that some of them came here aged 5 or so, then had one conviction for a non violent offence.
The loony left want all these convicted criminals to stay I’m sure the victims of there crimes would want them deported but the looney left don’t care about them
HS2 report? They going to use the trains to deport people?
been convicted of "serious offences" carrying sentences of more than a year.
Good enough reason for me.
Good enough reason for me.
On the other hand there are characters like this that have been reprieved by the court ruling....
Akeem Finlay, of The Waldrons, Croydon, has been jailed for six years for the attack at West Norwood station on a 20-year-old man. Finlay, and two other men, followed their victim to the station at about 6.45pm on September 6, 2011.
The trio barged through ticket barriers as they stalked the man, attacking him as he sat on the platform waiting for a train. They thrust a bottle into their victim’s face, leaving the man, who was 20 at the time, with wounds that have scarred him for life.
Akeem Finlay, of The Waldrons, Croydon, has been jailed for six years for the attack at West Norwood station on a 20-year-old man. Finlay, and two other men, followed their victim to the station at about 6.45pm on September 6, 2011.
The trio barged through ticket barriers as they stalked the man, attacking him as he sat on the platform waiting for a train. They thrust a bottle into their victim’s face, leaving the man, who was 20 at the time, with wounds that have scarred him for life.
if the government home office hadn't/don't fooook up everything they touch the plane could take off safe in the knowledge there,s no one on board who has a right to stay
I think there should be no problem for those who came here as adults
Those who came here as children a little more difficult.....perhaps we have to set an age, I don't know what it would be?
Those who came here as children a little more difficult.....perhaps we have to set an age, I don't know what it would be?
Libtards all over the media saying it was only minor crimes like supplying class A and GBH. You know, tantamount to a receiving parking ticket. Couldn't make it up.
Libtards all over the media saying it was only minor crimes like supplying class A and GBH. You know, tantamount to a receiving parking ticket. Couldn't make it up.
Feb 10, 2020 -- 9:22PM, UBLE/REGY wrote:
I think there should be no problem for those who came here as adultsThose who came here as children a little more difficult.....perhaps we have to set an age, I don't know what it would be?
They are attempting to link it to the Windrush deportation review. Which was leaked and recommends 13 as the cut off I believe. There is of course only an extremely tenuous link to Windrush, as none of these people moved to the UK under Windrush and they have all been convicted of serious crime. Many people have been deported to many countries under this legislation, people like Lammy are only interested in these cases as they are black.
Hark at ABBOTT , whens the Son Appearing ?? Was he born in the UK ?? 
Multiple Charges exposing himself in a hospital and Multiple assaults ,And she is worried about this Mob
She would have fooking Odd shoes on if he Going on to a plane Cuffed
Private Schooling and the Golden Civil Service path and Look where it has ended up , You cannot make it up TBH
Private Schooling and the Golden Civil Service path and Look where it has ended up , You cannot make it up TBH
In this case one of the new labour MPs was blaming the judiciary, claiming black people are issued longer sentences.
David Lammy all over this as usual playing the racist card, defending gunmen, rapists and thieves simply because of their origins.
He's a Godsend for the Tories, I wouldn't be surprised if they funded his election campaign.
That's not ignoring Miss Diane's contribution here, she always plays a blinder in these matters as well.
She costs the Labour votes and credibility every time she opens her trap.
He's a Godsend for the Tories, I wouldn't be surprised if they funded his election campaign.
That's not ignoring Miss Diane's contribution here, she always plays a blinder in these matters as well.
She costs the Labour votes and credibility every time she opens her trap.
The yardies from Jamaica are some of the most despicable animals on the planet.
They shouldn't be deported, they should be executed
They shouldn't be deported, they should be executed
Boris should have a hit squad for extra judicial killings
What's hilarious is that the legislation used to deport these people was brought in by New Labour.
This incident follows the bloke who was prevented from being deported by passengers on the plane he was on. Then later it emerged that the criminal they were trying to deport was a gang rapist.
When hand-wringers and bleeding hearts get involved, always get ready for a balls up.
This incident follows the bloke who was prevented from being deported by passengers on the plane he was on. Then later it emerged that the criminal they were trying to deport was a gang rapist.
When hand-wringers and bleeding hearts get involved, always get ready for a balls up.
2007 UK Borders Act
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2007/30/crossheading/deportation-of-criminals/enacted
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2007/30/crossheading/deportation-of-criminals/enacted
What about our book reading Friends ,shirley the same must apply to some of the sex cases ??
Great News 17 have been deported the Plane has set off , 17 less vermin off our shores
I understand some had sentences of just over 12 months (one of the conditions, I believe), but the deciding factor was none of the naughties that were deported were British ie did not hold a British passport. It could have been an oversight on their part not becoming British or they were too poor to become one.
Is it a great loss for the majority eg drug dealers, etc? Absolutely not, regardless of whether Jamaica had not been their home for many, many years. The UK do not want people of that ilk either. Shame this does not apply to British Passport holders born overseas.
Is it a great loss for the majority eg drug dealers, etc? Absolutely not, regardless of whether Jamaica had not been their home for many, many years. The UK do not want people of that ilk either. Shame this does not apply to British Passport holders born overseas.
Why shouldn't David Lammy play the race card Rolf Harris hasn't been deported.
getting tierd of hearing it will be popular with the public so will floggings,death pen,blowing up commons,lords,sacking all mp,s,shutting up Philip schofield, its not the governments job to be popular but to abide by the law and the courts,jamicans today,as we,re leaving the EU,how many eu nationals whove served 12 months in nick and for one reason or another havnt got british stratus will be deported in a few years time,and who do they come for next
home office now reviewing at least 8 cases,8 people who without the courts intervening would be in Jamaica now,if they havnt got a case they,d be going back on next flight
home office now reviewing at least 8 cases,8 people who without the courts intervening would be in Jamaica now,if they havnt got a case they,d be going back on next flight
The law is being followed. Who's to say whether supplying class A drugs is a better or worse crime than GBH. That's why the threshold of a year's bird is what counts. I'd argue that the case of the con who left his home country when he was five is unlucky, but my understanding is that he done two separate stretches. What we reap, we sow. He was on just now saying his childhood was being taken away. Erm, no, that was you wanting to be a gangster, fam.
Feb 11, 2020 -- 5:42PM, 1st time poster wrote:
getting tierd of hearing it will be popular with the public so will floggings,death pen,blowing up commons,lords,sacking all mp,s,shutting up Philip schofield, its not the governments job to be popular but to abide by the law and the courts,jamicans today,as we,re leaving the EU,how many eu nationals whove served 12 months in nick and for one reason or another havnt got british stratus will be deported in a few years time,and who do they come for nexthome office now reviewing at least 8 cases,8 people who without the courts intervening would be in Jamaica now,if they havnt got a case they,d be going back on next flight
This is what happens to you in Thailand if you overstay your visa by just one day and get caught!
https://thethaiger.com/world/regional-news-source-publishes-smuggled-photos-from-bangkoks-immigration-detention-centre-1
Surely the wider point is that our liberal system is reluctant to deport anyone.
Thornberry infamously supported the return of IS fighters...
Thornberry infamously supported the return of IS fighters...
I think The UK must abide by International Law eg an individual rendered stateless and with a British Passport and born her must be allowed to return to The UK regardless of crime. However, an individual in a similar predicament but not born here whose application to return to The UK must be denied or at least challenged in the courts.
I agree anyone who was a repeat offender of the same crime deported yesterday have only themselves to blame - with family or not. They could reapply to return after a period eg 10 years after they have shown repentance.
I agree anyone who was a repeat offender of the same crime deported yesterday have only themselves to blame - with family or not. They could reapply to return after a period eg 10 years after they have shown repentance.
Lammy is raging that this flight went ahead
"The #Jamaica50 flight left this morning. It is an outrage that the government deports people who arrived in the UK as children to countries they do not know. We must not give up this fight."
"The #Jamaica50 flight left this morning. It is an outrage that the government deports people who arrived in the UK as children to countries they do not know. We must not give up this fight."
Sajid Javid said: "This flight is very similar to the one I sent to Jamaica when I was Home Secretary in February. It's all about protecting the public. That is our number one priority.
"Every single person on this flight is a foreign national offender. They have all committed serious offences, things like manslaughter, rape, dealing in Class A drugs.
"They are not British nationals and not a single one is a member of the Windrush generation."
"Every single person on this flight is a foreign national offender. They have all committed serious offences, things like manslaughter, rape, dealing in Class A drugs.
"They are not British nationals and not a single one is a member of the Windrush generation."
I think only 17 were deported to Jamaica as a few were reprieved (for now). But, none were British Passport holder; here as a child, but repeatedly doing illegal dodgy activities does not immune them from deportation under a legislation introduced by Mr Lammy's Party in 2007.
Someone on Twitter just said that Lammy actually voted for the law they are being kicked out under 
sums up why labour are totally un electable.
Here the govt are trying to deport murders, rapists, drug dealers and so on and these clowns want them to stay!!!
These are not petty criminals, done for stealing a loaf of bread here, they have each been given over 12 months sentance.
If we can get rid of them from these shores then the UK will be a slightly safer place to be.
Any one convicted of a serious crime (12 month sentence suggest it is) and is from a foreign country should be deported.
No bleedin hearts this or lived here for x years. They did the crime and those are the rules, ps dont come back.
Here the govt are trying to deport murders, rapists, drug dealers and so on and these clowns want them to stay!!!
These are not petty criminals, done for stealing a loaf of bread here, they have each been given over 12 months sentance.
If we can get rid of them from these shores then the UK will be a slightly safer place to be.
Any one convicted of a serious crime (12 month sentence suggest it is) and is from a foreign country should be deported.
No bleedin hearts this or lived here for x years. They did the crime and those are the rules, ps dont come back.
ffs lammy aint arguing about the law ,he,s questioning the status of some of the people on the flight and if some of them have been groomerd,county lines etc etc
read for yourself and not what the right wing media tell you
the home office have now agreed to take another look at, at least 8 of those on board,so maybe the home office might think some shouldn't be on the plane
who no,s they may all end up getting deported as as their already in detention no ones in danger
the fact patel wanted to fast track the planes departure ,tells me some shouldn't be on there,but who no,s
at the end of the day doris.patel can ignore the findings of windrush inquiry set up by mrs may and consider no one ,no matter how old has a right to uk nationality,in patels case that's a given
read for yourself and not what the right wing media tell you
the home office have now agreed to take another look at, at least 8 of those on board,so maybe the home office might think some shouldn't be on the plane
who no,s they may all end up getting deported as as their already in detention no ones in danger
the fact patel wanted to fast track the planes departure ,tells me some shouldn't be on there,but who no,s
at the end of the day doris.patel can ignore the findings of windrush inquiry set up by mrs may and consider no one ,no matter how old has a right to uk nationality,in patels case that's a given
everyone has a sob story to their crimes. Prison is full of people who it wasnt really their fault, mixed with wrong crowd and so on.
they did the crimes (serious ones too, we are not talking speeding tickets here or stealing a loaf).
Maybe other foreign criminals will think twice before they do these crimes knowing it will lead to deportation.
they did the crimes (serious ones too, we are not talking speeding tickets here or stealing a loaf).
Maybe other foreign criminals will think twice before they do these crimes knowing it will lead to deportation.
Perhaps we should deport all the British criminals too. We have enough territories around the world, Falklands, Gibralter, Canvey Island.
50 back to jamaica .......... 50 lost votes for labour
I have to say if you were here as a child in the 50’s - 70’s didn’t they ever go on holiday abroad?
Do Romainians, Albanians, Australians, French, Italians and Americans get sent home too?
How does it work?
Do Romainians, Albanians, Australians, French, Italians and Americans get sent home too?
How does it work?
Perhaps we should deport all the British criminals too. We have enough territories around the world, Falklands, Gibralter, Canvey Island. nebs
We did once why do you think Australia exists?
Perhaps we could still do it, send them where the fires are
We did once why do you think Australia exists?
Perhaps we could still do it, send them where the fires are
Feb 11, 2020 -- 10:11PM, Whisperingdeath wrote:
I have to say if you were here as a child in the 50’s - 70’s didn’t they ever go on holiday abroad?Do Romainians, Albanians, Australians, French, Italians and Americans get sent home too?How does it work?
.https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jul/30/home-office-spent-268k-on-deportation-flights-that-never-took-off
2000 per year, returned to various countries.
This is standard sympathiser policy now, create a false narrative for the perma outraged leftist broadcast media to run with. Link it to Windrush which was actually scandalous of course, but not at all relevant to these cases. Of course if one of the rapists offended again in the UK post release, they would blame the government for not abiding by the law.
Brits have been deported back to the UK from Australia under the same law.
Was reading that one of those deported today was a drug dealer who bludgeoned a young woman to death with a hammer.
I genuinely couldn't give a f*ck at what age he came here we are well shot of him.
Emily Thornberry unhappy despite them being deported under legislation introduced by Labour.
I genuinely couldn't give a f*ck at what age he came here we are well shot of him.
Emily Thornberry unhappy despite them being deported under legislation introduced by Labour.
We do not deport any sex criminals, including our own.
Our law forbids it at the moment?
Our law forbids it at the moment?
I think the hammer killer was not on the plane and is still serving life.
But he was an example of a violent criminal that had been told he would be deported to Jamaica but was allowed to stay, and then did the murder.
But he was an example of a violent criminal that had been told he would be deported to Jamaica but was allowed to stay, and then did the murder.
Lloyd Byfield, 48, admitted stabbing 26-year-old Leighann Duffy 14 times after breaking into her home in Walthamstow, east London, in September 2014.
At the Old Bailey, Byfield was told he would serve a minimum of 26-and-a-half years but may never be released. The judge also told the court the authorities failed to deport Byfield after he committed earlier crimes.
During the hearing, Judge Nicholas Cooke said the murder could have been prevented if the Jamaican national had been sent to his homeland after he attacked another woman with a chisel and was jailed for 30 months for burglary in 2005.
He told Byfield: "You were to be deported but, for reasons that have never been explained to me, that was never actioned and you remained here able to kill an innocent woman."
The Home Office said Byfield was one of about 1,000 prisoners released without being considered for deportation over several years which the then Home Secretary Charles Clarke apologised for. Mr Clarke was later sacked as home secretary.
Byfield was released in 2005 and absconded after a deportation order was pursued in 2007.
At the Old Bailey, Byfield was told he would serve a minimum of 26-and-a-half years but may never be released. The judge also told the court the authorities failed to deport Byfield after he committed earlier crimes.
During the hearing, Judge Nicholas Cooke said the murder could have been prevented if the Jamaican national had been sent to his homeland after he attacked another woman with a chisel and was jailed for 30 months for burglary in 2005.
He told Byfield: "You were to be deported but, for reasons that have never been explained to me, that was never actioned and you remained here able to kill an innocent woman."
The Home Office said Byfield was one of about 1,000 prisoners released without being considered for deportation over several years which the then Home Secretary Charles Clarke apologised for. Mr Clarke was later sacked as home secretary.
Byfield was released in 2005 and absconded after a deportation order was pursued in 2007.
Must have been misreported Tober. Definatly said he was on the plane in the report I read.
I don't know the law exactly akabula….
but I remember it at the time, it was done for women.
We don't allow anybody who has committed a sex offence to come into this country, for the same reason.
Mike Tyson was not allowed to come, although he had served his sentence, that disappointed me.
but I remember it at the time, it was done for women.
We don't allow anybody who has committed a sex offence to come into this country, for the same reason.
Mike Tyson was not allowed to come, although he had served his sentence, that disappointed me.
As I understand it EBUL the legislation was introduced in 2007 so either Blair or Brown.
Maybe lammy or Abbott would volunteer to open their house to a few of these victims to help in their rehabilitation.
"Diane Abbott spot on as usual"
She cannot even put a pair of Matching Shoes on FFS
Poor Burnett and the Mob what a disaster they have had
She cannot even put a pair of Matching Shoes on FFS
Poor Burnett and the Mob what a disaster they have had
Wonder what Mental Ailment will be pulled from the Bag for her son ??
Abbott and her festering family ,Lammy , Onasanya, 'lady' Scotland should be on the next flight out.....
Lammy and Abbott, 1.01, conservatives undercover. nobody can be that thick.
who was the dual national blonde haired coke snorting white boy who arranged to have a journo beaten up,that jezza was referring to at PMQ,S today
who ever it was he deserves a drink because it shut doris up for a few mins
who ever it was he deserves a drink because it shut doris up for a few mins
For Ms Abbott to say the deportation caused "wide spread concern" was clearly untrue, and to use "double jeopardy" as a reason not to deport clearly was an emotive misjudgement as deportees were non-British repeated offenders of odious crimes. I believe these repeat offenders must always be repatriated to their country of origin regardless including with/without a family.
And, none of the deported was related to "Windrush" either.
And, none of the deported was related to "Windrush" either.
The_KAMIKAZEE_DRINKING_MACHINE 11 Feb 20 22:48
Brits have been deported back to the UK from Australia under the same law.
Many years ago my brother spent eight weeks in a regular jail in Brisbane awaiting his deportation for overstaying. He never moaned about it and was quite grateful not to be charged for the flight home.
Brits have been deported back to the UK from Australia under the same law.
Many years ago my brother spent eight weeks in a regular jail in Brisbane awaiting his deportation for overstaying. He never moaned about it and was quite grateful not to be charged for the flight home.
Fully support the idea of deportation of serious criminals but I also have a nagging doubt about the ability of our civil servants to get it right in every case instead of ensuring the first example is a cast iron case of guilty parties.
Next plane should be full of pedo book readers.
Send them to some godforsaken place like Papua New Guinea.
They are always after a bit of fresh meat........... for the pot!
Send them to some godforsaken place like Papua New Guinea.
They are always after a bit of fresh meat........... for the pot!
No sex criminals can leave this country...as I posted earlier
We like to keep them here and punish them for life..
I not sure I agree with this....
but it is want women want.....and men are terrified to oppose women in our society at the moment
We like to keep them here and punish them for life..
I not sure I agree with this....
but it is want women want.....and men are terrified to oppose women in our society at the moment
Maybe he's absconded to a place of safety...away from his mum!
I'm not surprised they don't want to go back. Every week on the island of St Marie it seems that a white person murders someone.
101 yr old from the EU claimng uk residence was told by the HOME OFFICE to get his parents to confirm who he was
they popped in after their 5 mile morning jog,
Dominic Cummings described the Court of Appeal suspension of the deportation of criminals to the Caribbean as ‘a perfect symbol of the British state’s dysfunction’.
He said there must be ‘urgent action on the farce that judicial review has become’.
The Tory manifesto promised a review of the judicial review process – a pledge that has unsettled some in the legal profession.
Cummings said to officials that the support for the court ruling among MPs and hacks ‘shows they still haven’t understood what the last few years has been about, the country outside London is horrified but rich London is cheering the lawyers’.
He said there must be ‘urgent action on the farce that judicial review has become’.
The Tory manifesto promised a review of the judicial review process – a pledge that has unsettled some in the legal profession.
Cummings said to officials that the support for the court ruling among MPs and hacks ‘shows they still haven’t understood what the last few years has been about, the country outside London is horrified but rich London is cheering the lawyers’.
Cummings clearly understands the public mood but has to walk carefully as plenty of the well healed legal eagles will enjoy knifing him.
Political Correctness misrepresented yet again. The UK has been too soft, and needs to get tougher with those who think they could do what whatever and however they like without impunity. But, hopefully no more.
Can you imagine if the worse thing ever happened in this history of our country and Diane Flabbot had become Home Sec.?
They'd be planes arriving from Jamiaca full of criminals,staying here on benefits.
They'd be planes arriving from Jamiaca full of criminals,staying here on benefits.
Irony is that Labour have been so outraged by the deportation of convicted rapists and killers,etc yet stayed so quiet about the hundreds of young white girls abused and ruined ? Bizarre,they even disciplined their MP's when they did speak out.
Political Correctness and politics at the expense of law, justice and ethics.
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