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i_agree_with_nick
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...according to The Telegraph.


Didn't Ed Miliband put this forward in 2010?
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Report i_agree_with_nick • February 10, 2020 11:40 AM GMT
There is also talk of tax relief being cut on pension savings, capping it at 20% for all taxpayers.
Report John.W.Henry. • February 10, 2020 11:51 AM GMT
There will be a new tax which they will be applying to us all very soon.... THE CLIMATE EMERGENCY TAX.     N.A.P. Crazy
Report salmon spray • February 10, 2020 12:01 PM GMT
Tbf there is considerable logic behind this. The Council Tax valuations only go up to Band H which means a £50m property will be paying the same as one worth £1m. That wasn't true under the old rateable value system,which had become obsolete,not so much because of Thather's ideology,as because hardly any houses were let at market rate. If only they had waited 30 years or so.
Report GAZO • February 10, 2020 12:22 PM GMT
all to pay for a fast train
Report 1st time poster • February 10, 2020 12:39 PM GMT
a fast train to go slower than its capable of
bailing out failing private buisnesses
record nhs spending
massive increase in public spending
record increase in minimum wage
ending austerity
privatising parts of railway
mansion tax
ending 40% pension tax relief
levelling up
utility bill caps

Johnson and tories dug up the edd stone and added a few billion baubles on top
leftist government in 50 years and its tory LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report salmon spray • February 10, 2020 12:58 PM GMT
I wouldn't bank on it.
Report GAZO • February 10, 2020 2:16 PM GMT
never mentioned at the election but how can we be ending austerity when nothing has been paid off the debt,when cameron got in over 10 years ago he said we were almost broke but the debt has gone up and up to nearly £2 trillion and yet they all promised to spend more at the election
Report 1st time poster • February 10, 2020 2:21 PM GMT
like man utd,40 yr mortgages its all about servicing the debt ,not the debt, Wink
Report dave1357 • February 10, 2020 3:04 PM GMT
trump has doubled the US deficit - spending like socialist on crack is the new conservative way.
Report SlippyBlue • February 10, 2020 3:31 PM GMT
What is the correct definition of "a mansion", does anyone know?
Report i_agree_with_nick • February 10, 2020 3:53 PM GMT
What is the correct definition of "a mansion", does anyone know?



When Ed Miliband proposed this in 2010, the threshold was £2m.  I don't think the Tories have suggested a value yet.
Report CLYDEBANK29 • February 10, 2020 4:24 PM GMT
UK Debt 

Since 2009 when it held 0% of National debt, the Bank of England has purchased gilts (was 23% in Nov 2017) and the UK government owns the Bank of England, so saying the national debt hasn't fallen is very misleading (I think)  To put it bluntly headline figures mean almost nothing without an extensive understanding of the bigger picture, and the bigger picture starts with who owes what to whom.
Report salmon spray • February 10, 2020 4:37 PM GMT

Feb 10, 2020 -- 3:31PM, SlippyBlue wrote:


What is the correct definition of "a mansion", does anyone know?


A residential property worth £50m in London or £50k in Barnsley.

Report Jack Hacksaw • February 10, 2020 4:37 PM GMT
Why not just review council tax banding?

Typical headline-grabbing, political knee-jerk, legislation reaction with arbitrary figures adding layers of bureaucracy and complicition - rather than a considered, structural approach.

Loads of other examples, but I can't be arsed.
Report i_agree_with_nick • February 10, 2020 4:46 PM GMT
Clydebank,

Iirc, about 25% is owed to the BofE but the rest is owed to pension and investment funds, banks, other financial institutions and private individuals.
Report CLYDEBANK29 • February 10, 2020 4:46 PM GMT
The simpler the message or the headline, the more it resonates.  All media headlines have to be, because considered structural approaches, fly over the head of most people and the media outlets wouldn't gain any viewers.
Report CLYDEBANK29 • February 10, 2020 4:52 PM GMT
Yeah that is the current figure, but it was 0% in 2009.  To my understanding, I tentaively think that means the government has bought back about a quarter of it's own debt, but the quarter that it has bought back is still showing as debt.
Report Jack Hacksaw • February 10, 2020 4:58 PM GMT
True, I am sure Clydebank, but all the more frustrating.
Report i_agree_with_nick • February 10, 2020 5:01 PM GMT
Yes, effectively the 25% is owed by the government to itself but is still included in the overall figure.
Report CLYDEBANK29 • February 10, 2020 7:17 PM GMT
Just looking at debt again.  The UK owns $334bn of US debt.
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