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flushgordon1
02 Feb 20 16:40
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Involving Islam.
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Report postmannick February 2, 2020 4:53 PM GMT
but there a peace loving people so we keep having shoved down our throats
Report doridoru February 2, 2020 5:03 PM GMT
Islam of course shhhh tho, still awaiting the Polish Chinese etc attack?

Must be that book!
Report tictacman1 February 2, 2020 6:08 PM GMT
Corbyn will be asking why he wasn't arrested.
Report GRANTCKING February 2, 2020 6:14 PM GMT
religion of peace!
Report flushgordon1 February 2, 2020 6:38 PM GMT
I am in favour of the shoot to kill policy, can they extend it to any of them within a 50 yard radius of young white children.
Report breadnbutter February 2, 2020 8:06 PM GMT
You tube clips , look a scene from Mogadishu.
Report tictacman1 February 2, 2020 8:25 PM GMT
Laugh
Report impossible123 February 2, 2020 8:49 PM GMT
Has the coward been named? Was he was British born, and what ethnicity?
Report mecca February 2, 2020 8:51 PM GMT
Not long released from prison. Jailed for...... erm..... terrorist offences
Report Ibrahima Sonko February 2, 2020 9:00 PM GMT
You would think the victims of this attack have legitimate case to sue the government.
Report Injera February 2, 2020 9:06 PM GMT
Sudesh Aman, 19.
Report tictacman1 February 2, 2020 9:10 PM GMT
The attacker had been released from prison at the end of January, after serving half of his three year sentence.

Counter-terrorist police and MI5 have around 3,000 so called "subjects of interest" at any one time but a much smaller number are under round-the-clock surveillance because it takes a huge team of specialist officers to watch a suspect covertly.
Report impossible123 February 2, 2020 9:11 PM GMT
Lock them up and throw away the key. This cannot be allowed to happen again. How many more civilians murdered or maimed before enough is enough?
Report howard February 2, 2020 9:29 PM GMT
Looks like they were tracking his every move but couldn't ask questions  until he had used the machete under his jacket.
Report impossible123 February 2, 2020 9:44 PM GMT
I believe a convicted terrorist must serve the entire sentence imposed. If out on parole the convict must be put on house arrest for at least 20 hours a day and electronically and tagged. They must not be allowed to roam the streets at will.
Report Injera February 2, 2020 9:49 PM GMT
He sent beheadings videos to his girlfriend - whom he said should kill her "kuffar" parents - and told her: "If you can't make a bomb because family, friends or spies are watching or suspecting you, take a knife, molotov, sound bombs or a car at night and attack the tourists (crusaders), police and soldiers of taghut, or Western Embassies in every country you are in this planet."

In a notebook - in which he had made notes on explosives and detonators - he had written notes on his "goals in life". These included: "Die as a shuhada" (martyr) and go to '"jannah" (paradise).

- And there you have it. From the horse’s mouth.
Report jucel69 February 2, 2020 10:05 PM GMT

Feb 2, 2020 -- 9:44PM, impossible123 wrote:


I believe a convicted terrorist must serve the entire sentence imposed. If out on parole the convict must be put on house arrest for at least 20 hours a day and electronically and tagged. They must not be allowed to roam the streets at will.


Anybody portraying those sort of notions/beliefs should be executed

Report jucel69 February 2, 2020 10:07 PM GMT
Same as nonces; you can't rehabilitate certain members of society, therefore save the tax payers a few quid and kill them
Report casemoney February 2, 2020 10:12 PM GMT
Its gone , Only hope is to get way from them Leave them in their Enclaves
Report jucel69 February 2, 2020 10:17 PM GMT
The best way is to close all the mosques.
Without places to pray they will soon fùck off
Report jucel69 February 2, 2020 10:19 PM GMT
also make the cult of Islam illegal, just nobody has any balls to do it
Report Ramruma February 3, 2020 8:35 AM GMT
From @Injera -- In a notebook - in which he had made notes on explosives and detonators - he had written notes on his "goals in life". These included: "Die as a shuhada" (martyr) and go to '"jannah" (paradise).

This is the problem with the police killing them. It makes it easier for the next wannabe terrorist to believe he too will go straight to paradise. For these people (if that is the right word) the death penalty is not a deterrent, it is an incentive. We'd be safer if we downgraded the prize to life in one of Her Majesty's hotels.
Report posy February 3, 2020 9:11 AM GMT
All of them who have shown any sign of terrorist tendencies should be rounded up and placed in camps from where they can remain the rest of their miserable lives.It is pointless to believe that anything will change their ideological mindset therefore they will always be a danger to society.

Alternatively just use them for shooting practice.
Report wolf3011 February 3, 2020 9:18 AM GMT
Speaking objectively, if someone said they wish to come into a country subscribing to beliefs that all non believers are "kafirs " that will burn in hell because a prophet married to a 6 year old child said so, most sane people would question their mentality. If you put it under the umbrella of Islam, it suddenly becomes multi culturalism with Sadiq Khan saying we must stamp out "islamaphobia "and build more mosques .. anyone questioning these beliefs is accused of a hate crime yet buildings are funded by the tax payer for a religion entrenched in archaic views regarding women as property of men for eg with people being "shocked" when we see events like yesterday/Rotheram grooming etc. The real criminals aren't just these terrorists but the people who create this obsession with tolerating it and helping it flourish. There is nothing "phobic " about fearing a cult like this, it's logical and entirely understandable but in this silly society anyone in the public eye even implying this , will be either sacked or deemed to be racist despite the fact a religion is never a race. If I created my own religion tomorrow which incorporated sacrificing a slug at midnight n my back garden, no one criticising that mad practice would be a " racist".
Report Ramruma February 3, 2020 9:26 AM GMT
@posy -- All of them who have shown any sign of terrorist tendencies should be rounded up and placed in camps from where they can remain the rest of their miserable lives.

Yes but there'd only be half a dozen chit-chatters left if you rounded up the ones who said on this forum that they'd watched beheading videos back when ISIL was a thing.
Report Ramruma February 3, 2020 9:27 AM GMT
Come to think of it, watching those videos probably is illegal now, and one of the reasons the Streatham murderer was banged up till a few days ago.
Report posy February 3, 2020 9:51 AM GMT
Well Ramruma I'd be one of the remainers as I've never watched a beheading and have no intention of ever doing so. The thrust of my point is that no amount of 're education' will change  mindsets and as the first duty of Government is to keep its law abiding citizens safe the only solution is to eliminate the transgressors. I don't really care how Government goes about it as long as they protect the people. 'Human rights' apologists should be ignored ; a pogrom may be the answer.
Report posy February 3, 2020 9:51 AM GMT
Well Ramruma I'd be one of the remainers as I've never watched a beheading and have no intention of ever doing so. The thrust of my point is that no amount of 're education' will change  mindsets and as the first duty of Government is to keep its law abiding citizens safe the only solution is to eliminate the transgressors. I don't really care how Government goes about it as long as they protect the people. 'Human rights' apologists should be ignored ; a pogrom may be the answer.
Report Dr Crippen February 3, 2020 10:41 AM GMT
All we have here are two people knifed and a killing.
Which is standard stuff for a day in London, yet the medio are all over it.

This is the future for a soft society such as ours.

And the discussions as usual, are all about what went wrong and how we can stop it happening in the future, when all the talk is hot air.
Because if they had a clue, things wouldn't go wrong in the first place.
Report 1st time poster February 3, 2020 11:07 AM GMT
on a general note this bloke didn't kill anyone,didnt here anyone saying all thoise sikh,s fighting last week should be shot dead no questinos asked, or the weekly now accepted gang deaths on London streets, as said above just another knife attack on a London street by someone far less accomplished with a knife thnt our usual suspects, roads arnt shutdown for 36 hrs after ye normal laandan weekend knife attack, were beginning to do their work glorifying any incident ,they no longer need months to plan,build bombs,hire lorries etc,their getting the same RESULTS FROM POPPING OUT DURING a love island advert break to do a few stabbings, no political slogans,no ali,s snack bar,no beheadings ,claimiong responsibility, video,s,

by the way I have no answers Laugh
Report Ramruma February 3, 2020 11:44 AM GMT
One of the big problems is that in the old days being a gangster meant getting hold of a gun, which was hard, and being a terrorist meant buying explosives and making a bomb, which was even harder.

Now, it has been democratised and all of us risk being killed by some lunatic who at a moment's notice can grab a knife out of the kitchen drawer or jump in his car and swerve onto the pavement. How do you prevent that?

The Streatham bloke did not think even that far ahead. He shoplifted a £3.99 knife, and stabbed people as he ran down the road. It is all too easy now.
Report Ramruma February 3, 2020 11:49 AM GMT
I guess the Streatham question is that if this bloke was being trailed by the police, why did they not realise he'd got a (fake) suicide jacket on?
Report 1st time poster February 3, 2020 11:50 AM GMT
SO WHY treat it as a terrorist attack giving them the oxygen ,headlines, they crave, I don't suppose anyone killed,injured   by these attacks care 2 fooooks whether there by so called terrorists,upset sikh,s,drill music gangsters
Report GAZO February 3, 2020 12:00 PM GMT
if these terrorist were in iraq or syria we would probally kill them and claim they were a threat to national security,yet when they are here and an even more threat to national security we let them walk the streets
Report postmannick February 3, 2020 3:35 PM GMT
wolf ...your spot on our so called leaders have opened the floodgates and that was the first step to total domination thats all they needed and wanted
Report impossible123 February 3, 2020 4:03 PM GMT
A "religious" terrorist will remain one for a long time (convicted or not/rehabilitated or not) as their views will remain as their mind is so screwed up and intoxicated.

I think when these cowards killed in our streets (not Iraq or Syria) in the name of Islam (wrongly) the relevant authorities and the government are under scrutiny from "that" immigrant group that supports one of our 2 major political parties. But, I hope the authorities and present government will put the safety of all UK residents before the fear of being accused of racism and discrimination, and make sure these "religious" nutters/killers/cowards serve the entire sentence imposed (no parole), and electronically tagged upon release for at least 5 years.

If necessary shoot to kill, I believe, as these animals are not fit to walk or roam the streets of London or any UK city.
Report 1st time poster February 3, 2020 4:55 PM GMT
SO DO YOU agree with shoot to kill on all knife crime which have killed far more than terrorists this year,ot don't you mind getting killed in a street,drug,gang crime
Report impossible123 February 3, 2020 5:07 PM GMT
Of course not. That's an entirely different matter as it usually involves known individuals eg gang members, unless a mistaken identity.

Shoot to kill any religious nutter/terrorist killing/maiming innocent bystander in the streets of London or any UK city; senseless knife crimes amongst street gangs, etc ought to be dealt in another manner eg an automatic custodial sentence for anyone carrying a knife for no good reason not even for self-protection; stop--and-search (tough for those civil libertarians).
Report howard February 3, 2020 5:15 PM GMT
His mother said he was "watching & listening to things online which brainwashed him" in prison.  Sounds like the government have lived up to their promise to get everyone online.
Report impossible123 February 3, 2020 5:22 PM GMT
Was it not in the manifesto of the Labour Party in the last General Election to give every household free broadband?
Report flushgordon1 February 3, 2020 5:23 PM GMT
The count was in prison for terrorist offences , his mother is a lying taqiyya merchant who needs to stand closer to her ladyshave.
Report InsiderTrader February 3, 2020 5:51 PM GMT
1st time poster
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SO DO YOU agree with shoot to kill on all knife crime which have killed far more than terrorists this year,ot don't you mind getting killed in a street,drug,gang crime

^

I thought STK only happens if they are vested up. I doubt the drug dealers are.
Report impossible123 February 3, 2020 5:54 PM GMT
In this case it's as clear as crystal the mum is extremely economical with the truth, and an irresponsible parent. Blaming the time in prison for the brainwashing of her son? Did she ask what her son was in prison for? A fairly typical response from that community; 1st deny, and then blame others.

It's never their fault always someone else's. Try and accept some responsibilities - he was your son!
Report 1st time poster February 3, 2020 7:38 PM GMT
no one will shed any ntears ,but their wearing the vests knowing they,ll get shot, becoming a martyr
Report posy February 3, 2020 7:45 PM GMT
I see no reason for not having a law that allows police to shoot to kill anyone carrying a knife/gun . Might sound bad but if a few 'innocent' gang members/drug dealers get shot by mistake then that's collateral damage and anyway it all helps to rid the streets of vermin.
Report Nebs February 3, 2020 9:01 PM GMT
I wonder why someone high up in the religion has not stood up and said this action will not get you to heaven.
Report Injera February 3, 2020 9:07 PM GMT
Because that would be to oppose Mohammed... it’s like one of the elves opposing Santa...
Report impossible123 February 4, 2020 10:48 AM GMT
Acceptance is not the strongest point of that community - denial is. Any misdemeanour eg traffic offences, sexual offences, benefit fraud, illegal immigration, Uber, etc, their 1st line of defence is denial or plead ignorance of the law.
Report 1st time poster February 4, 2020 12:36 PM GMT
meanwhile 200 murders a year by the boys on a weekend carry,s on unabated and taken as part of city life
Report bigmo February 4, 2020 2:00 PM GMT
Ministers face a legal battle over their plans to make terror offenders serve longer in prison, a former government adviser has warned.

Under the changes, such prisoners would no longer be automatically freed at the halfway point of their sentences.

But ex-independent reviewer of terror legislation Lord Carlile said the plans "may be in breach of the law".


Always on the side of the wrong uns.Sad
Report Injera February 4, 2020 3:03 PM GMT
PARIS (Reuters) - French police on Sunday shot and wounded a man who had rushed towards a group of policemen with a knife shouting “Allahu akbar” (God is greatest) in the eastern city of Metz, local officials said.

At what point will the dots be joined?
Report UBLE/REGY February 4, 2020 4:41 PM GMT
I see the father of the Streatham terrorist phoned him a few days before the incident

and told him 'Not to be Naughty'...when was the previous time he spoke with his son when he was 4 years old?

Well he was very naughty and now he is dead.
Report impossible123 February 5, 2020 10:18 AM GMT
Where there's a will there's a way. Unless the relevant authorities do something drastic (may not be pc) the present scenario will remain. I think the carrying of a knife/knives seems to be the monopoly of British residents specific.

Do something about knife crimes, and the early release of convicted religious terrorists - the law is an ass. And, any individual (learned or not) either talking thro' their pocket or needs a reality check.

No compromise is acceptable when the cowardice act of knifing innocent bystanders esp by religious convicted nutters on the streets of The UK happened repeatedly.
Report cardifffc February 5, 2020 2:19 PM GMT
jail the terrorist(or preferably kill them at the scene)  and chuck all his family back to their native country
Report dambuster February 5, 2020 3:54 PM GMT
Agree Cardiff, all this b0ll0x the families spout saying, ''We never knew what he was doing'', If the families were deported to their native country, even if they were born here, they'd make sure they knew what they were doing and inform the authorities straight away
Report dambuster February 5, 2020 4:02 PM GMT
At the end of the day, Capital punishment will be brought back, because everything else has failed,It makes me smile when i hear the so-called professionals in the media say, it wouldn't deter terrorists and murderers, well it would deter the murdering kids who go around stabbing each other, simply, if a knife or a gun is pulled on them, they run away, why do they run away ?, because they don't want to die, if they knew they would die for murder, they'd think twice at the very least, as for terrorists,
Anyone deemed a terrorist, lock them up in a 5hit h0le basic cell, no Quran , and leave them there until they agree to go back to there native muslim country or they die.
Its all so simple but, theres millions to be made for defending the indefensible, and there's many legal people in very high places who don'y want that to end.
Report detraveller February 5, 2020 4:06 PM GMT
Pretty much the same routine every time a terrorist attack happens. Give it a few days and people forget.
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