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What's the problem with half the country being obese? or 75% of it?
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Yep. A comprehensive review of VAT. It is not fit for purpose any more.
Tax the bad stuff and cut tax on the rest. Net result, same tax take, fewer fatties. |
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Now you're talking sense
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WHen I suggest it being taxed, I mean a way to discourage the manufacturers from using them. I know at the end of the day they are just going to transfer that cost to the consumer but there has to be a way to stop people from putting 25g/100g of sugar in a biscuit. A regulation or something.
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I cut down from 2 sugars to 1 sugar in coffee lately and I'm pushing myself further still. It's quite amazing how easily and quickly one adapts.
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Aspro i went from 2 to none in my coffee years ago by decreasing gradually over just two weeks.I cant stand sugar on things now, i also gave up cans of minerals, i'll treat myself to a coke with a curry once in 3 months max.
I f you can drink coffee with no sugar for the first cup of the day you don't much notice thereafter. |
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First class of the day at all schools should be exercise and nutritional advice, bringing obesity down and saving the NHS a bundle over a life.
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Two weeks!!! I'm not sure I could do it that quickly; that's impressive.
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Intent dear boy, intent.........
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Thing about suger is the first intake does the damage as it leaves you with cravings you mostly wont be aware of for the rest of the day for more sugar and conversely if you take none in the morning the desire for sweet things dissipates quickly and permanently.
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I don't put any sugar in my coffee. But then I consume something with it that is usually just sugar. Mostly honey on bread or like today, biscuits.
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I never pay any attention to b.m.i. readings personally, last time I checked mine was 28 which puts me in the overweight bracket and that is simply not the case.
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food health needs to be really pushed in schools from early age
kids need to be shown dangers , to late for current generation but government need to think of future or uk will have a workforce who are unfit and sick constantly health should be a subject like English or maths |
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definitely danno
fitness and general health dictate achievement and wellbeing through life Its truly incredible the seismic diff in mental and physical health that can be achieved through a proper diet if your on a diet of fizzy juice , macdonals , convenience food etc your very likely to be depressed and under achieve , you will have no motivation , energy , outlook etc and on a downward spiral that is only relieved by getting that fast food fix |
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One of the problems with taking on this advice later in life is that most of the damage has already been done and as of today, cannot be undone (blocked arteries etc). The school is definitely the place to start.
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You've got too many interested parties against healthy living. Thank of the advertising budgets of these lot...And, its a very easy sell.
Cookery books and programmes Fast foot outlets Supermarkets Delivery companies Diet companies Gym companies Clothing companies (you think clothing companies want us to stay the same size) so the cycle continues... |
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I should thank edy for those links.
The ones I read say about the same, that reducing salt will lower blood pressure by 3.6 - 5.2 mm hg which is modest. And backs this what I wrote earlier. ''By only a small amount could be the answer. If you have high blood pressure and reduce your salt intake alone, your blood pressure is not going to come tumbling down.'' Many of these studies are not as scientific as one might imagine them to be. Switching from a high salt to a low salt diet will eliminate a lot of other things in the diet with could affect blood pressure. Weight loss during the study as well will affect BP. Also who took the readings, where they done at home, at a clinic one a day? Stuff like that. I wouldn't trust BP readings taken by many doctors let alone a nurse. They're always significantly higher than readings taken at home. |
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That's because you always get all giddy and nervous when the doctors and nurses take your blood pressure.
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That's not always the case edy.
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You only get giddy sometimes?
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They call that white coat syndrome.
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Jack Hacksaw 23 Jan 20 16:01
You've got too many interested parties against healthy living. Thank of the advertising budgets of these lot...And, its a very easy sell. Cookery books and programmes Fast foot outlets Supermarkets Delivery companies Diet companies Gym companies Clothing companies (you think clothing companies want us to stay the same size) so the cycle continues... 100 % , American heart association list tonnes of recipes with meat , and salmon which is a highly toxic foodstuff imo , sponsored by meat industry tho what chance do folk have |
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First class of the day at all schools should be exercise and nutritional advice,
But who decides what the best nutritional advice is? Conventional medical advice will not protect you from heart disease. |
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I don't believe exercise leads to weight loss. Can do in the short term but then the body adjusts and you have to exercise for longer and so on.. I know people who have very physical jobs who are obese.
Processed food is probably the enemy. Then after a generation or 2 of fatties you'll get more fatties genetically. Not sure how that cycle can be broken???? Can it?? |
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I wouldn't trust BP readings taken by many doctors let alone a nurse.
They're always significantly higher than readings taken at home I wouldn't say significantly, but they are almost always higher than my home readings. Maybe it is the white coat syndrome. |
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If you read the instructions that came with the kit, you'll know what I mean.
No wonder everybody has got high blood pressure, the incompetence in health professions regarding this is startling. Here's some more information on how to do it correctly. https://www.watercures.org/reading-blood-pressure.html |
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With regard to generational obesity, it is not just genetic, it is also more straightforward and immediate.
Fat parents create fat kids. Due to various reasons, simple bad diet within the family, eating at fast food places, fat parents are less likely to go for walks with their kids, less likely to encourage them in sport and activities...etc.. Saddest part of it is fat parents (usually mothers) causing their kids to be fat so their own fatness becomes normalised. |
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If you want to learn something, and are eligible, then take the first two courses (or more if necessary):
https://www.xperthealth.org.uk/ It's an eyeopener. |
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I think you are right about processed food, Injera.
When I become PM, processed food will also be targeted as part of my new VAT regime. |
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Careful, you'll be labelled as a Vattist..
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A busy life coupled with a low income or an affluent family will more likely lead to obesity for adults and their children esp if they are couch potatoes or electronic games/mobile addicts; obesity is the scourge of modern society.
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everywhere you go now there is vending units in shop centres for kids to grab a bag of sweets , mums want peace to shop , the cycle continues
supermarkets , most of the offers are unhealthy foods , crisps , cheese , tins , ready made sauces etc for most its impossible to avoid |
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I can't see any quick answer to it.
If people eat across the full range of food until they're satisfied, they're going to get fat. And that's what most people do, they've got this idea that if they overindulge they can soon burn it off which is a myth. |
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cheese effects same receptors in brain heroin does
Food outlets have long known this next time your passing a menu note the amount of foods with cheese , sure fire way to attract custom and keep them addicted |
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I certainly agree with that hello.
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Must be why I like cheese so much
 Rarely miss a day without it. |
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could be mate , look into it
https://en-gb.facebook.com/pages/category/Community/Cheese-Addiction-Support-Group-693455980832100/ this is a cheese addiction group , you wont be judged  |
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I bet it's been over three years since I tasted cheese.
I used to love it - matured cheddar. And going down the pub to have pints of bitter with mouse trap cobs and onion. Then driving home drunk. I'll freely admit it. I was a superb drink-driver. Hardly ever hit a thing. |
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hello - thanks!!
Just hope there's noone there who knows me.. |