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By:
hello :-)
When: 23 Jan 20 22:31
no worries

been there mate , started out a little bit on toast before I knew it was up to a kilo a week

hid it from my family but with help from cheese anonymous I got there tho Happy
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 23 Jan 20 22:47
Where giving up cheese is concerned, you have to decide whether you're a man or a mouse.
By:
jucel69
When: 23 Jan 20 22:50
why give up cheese??
I'd prefer to die
By:
jucel69
When: 23 Jan 20 22:53

Jan 23, 2020 -- 4:48PM, Injera wrote:


I don't believe exercise leads to weight loss. Can do in the short term but then the body adjusts and you have to exercise for longer and so on.. I know people who have very physical jobs who are obese.Processed food is probably the enemy. Then after a generation or 2 of fatties you'll get more fatties genetically. Not sure how that cycle can be broken???? Can it??


Yeh but you can be overweight and fit
I do 50-70k walking a week but also eat 4-5k calories a day
All my readings are excellent but carry a bit of timber in case I get stuck on a desert island sometimeWink
I don't want to live a long life anyway, pìssing and shìtting myself in a old folk's home, being beaten and tortured by some scumbag carer!

By:
jucel69
When: 23 Jan 20 22:55
You can stay slim relatively easily nowadays, so many low fat options and diets available.
I eat to live though, rather that live to eat.
You see some of the diets, regimes some people put themselves through, they can't be happy
By:
detraveller
When: 23 Jan 20 23:07
I don't want to live a long life anyway, pìssing and shìtting myself in a old folk's home, being beaten and tortured by some scumbag carer!
You watch too much bestgore.
By:
edy
When: 23 Jan 20 23:17

Jan 23, 2020 -- 10:53PM, jucel69 wrote:


Jan 23, 2020 --  4:48PM, Injera wrote:I don't believe exercise leads to weight loss. Can do in the short term but then the body adjusts and you have to exercise for longer and so on.. I know people who have very physical jobs who are obese.Processed food is probably the enemy. Then after a generation or 2 of fatties you'll get more fatties genetically. Not sure how that cycle can be broken???? Can it??Yeh but you can be overweight and fitI do 50-70k walking a week but also eat 4-5k calories a dayAll my readings are excellent but carry a bit of timber in case I get stuck on a desert island sometimeI don't want to live a long life anyway, pìssing and shìtting myself in a old folk's home, being beaten and tortured by some scumbag carer!


VR is coming. You might indeed be peeing and pooing yourself in an old folk's home, but you'll be thinking you are peeing and pooing on yourself while doing all the most awesome things in the most amazing places.

By:
Dr Crippen
When: 23 Jan 20 23:18
The aim is not so much to extend life, but more to enjoy it pain free for as long as possible.

Look at the Queen; well into her nineties, and still knocking a round off three times a week with one of her footmen I'll bet. 

I don't know so much about Philip, he looks like he's decomposing before he even snuffs it.
By:
sageform
When: 24 Jan 20 08:31
Low fat options are such a con though. Skim the cream off milk and sell the milk for the same price and then sell the cream for a much higher price.
A gift for dairy companies and supermarkets. Just drink less of it! I also continue to eat butter. The vegetable spreads taste so awful that I prefer bread and jam without any spread and have butter on a bread roll.
By:
Danno
When: 24 Jan 20 10:17
Imagine if the government said to you that as soon as you hit 18 you'll get a free car.  But it's the only car you'll ever be able to have for your entire life.  What would you do?  You'd take damned good care of it.  Clean it, drive it sensibly, put the right fuel and oil in, service it regularly and make sure that it was in good working order at all times.  In other words, you'd invest in it to make it last.

Now have a think about how people treat their bodies.
By:
jucel69
When: 24 Jan 20 10:30
And then some uninsured twât writes off your car after a few months!
Doesn't matter how fit you are when the big C comes knocking or many many other diseases, accidents.
I'm definitely a live for today sort of person, fùck the future
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 24 Jan 20 11:25
The health gurus advise us to eat a balanced diet to include meat, fish, dairy, whole grains, nuts, fruit and veg.

Most people eat all those things, and most people suffer chronic illness after middle age.

High blood pressure, heart disease, high cholesterol, S2 diabetes, gout, and many more common ailments are all all present in those who eat a balanced diet.
Since when did a balanced diet protect us from any of the above?

Keep buying the food is the message, and when it makes them sick we'll keep them alive with drugs.
By:
Aspro
When: 24 Jan 20 11:29
Whilst I accept that the average age appears to have stabilised, history has shown that it has steadily grown through the ages, yet today we have threads such as this. Funny that Grin
By:
Aspro
When: 24 Jan 20 11:30
And yes Dr C. Drugs have helped.
By:
sageform
When: 24 Jan 20 12:23
Life is about doing what you want to do in order to a) maximise your income up to a point and b) enjoy your leisure time. I grew up on a farm and was expected to work from the age of 11. I was a student from age 18 until 24, then 4 years mainly in an office but also doing a lot of driving. Then 28 years as a farmer doing a lot of heavy lifting in cold and wet conditions but also a serious middle distance athlete up to age 42 when my back decided it had enough abuse. I still do a lot of walking and bird watching but as anyone on here knows, I am in front of a computer and a TV most afternoons. At 75 I have a lot of arthritis but otherwise I am as fit as most for my age. I don't intend to change much about my diet or exercise unless forced to.
By:
Aspro
When: 24 Jan 20 13:09
So, in front of your computer sageform, do you still do bird watching? Devil
By:
Injera
When: 24 Jan 20 14:34
Quality over quantity.

We (I) can often forget to live....

Sounds like an interesting if tough life sage.

I saw a chiro for over a year. Transformational if expensive.
By:
Charlie
When: 24 Jan 20 14:57
Fats aren't the problem (in moderation that is) it's carbs that are.
By:
Charlie
When: 24 Jan 20 14:58
And processed foods such as ready meals.
By:
impossible123
When: 24 Jan 20 15:48
I'd play football from mid-afternoon to dusk running and chasing after a ball, but I'd not run even a short marathon eg less than 3 miles, why? Because I saw little point (even in school) pounding the road tarmac or surface floors would be good for my limbs. I do not swim as I cannot swim (tried) either, but I do eat a balanced diet (brought up that way) and walk daily even now. Luckily I do not have a sweet tooth or indulged in excessive eating - it's in the family genes.

I think some of us are destined or susceptible to certain illnesses regardless of diet, but a balanced diet is essential towards a better health in the future. So far I've been pretty lucky (apart from I wear glasses), but I dread living much longer or the day when I'm unable to live independently or fend for myself.

Salt (a key constituent for high blond pressure), sugar and fatty fried foods are the key components for obesity, I think.
By:
Charlie
When: 24 Jan 20 16:13
Fatty fried foods depend on what they're fried in. Vegetable oil or sunflower oil are the worst but unfortunately are used the most.
By:
impossible123
When: 24 Jan 20 16:43
^^
I thought lard is the daddy of it.
By:
Charlie
When: 24 Jan 20 16:55
Lard is fine compared to the two I gave.
By:
Injera
When: 24 Jan 20 17:00
Being fat used to be a sign of wealth.

'At the turn of the 20th century, actress Lillian Russell — tipping the scale at 200 pounds — was a reigning sex symbol, with her photos displayed in many newspapers.'

'Until the early 1900’s, for a woman to have extra weight on her body was a symbol of beauty and fertility.  For men, weight meant power.'

https://www.sermo.com/history-obesity-renaissance-1910/
By:
impossible123
When: 24 Jan 20 18:10
I did not know lard is a better "fat" than veggie or sunflower oil.

"Being fat used to be a sign of wealth". Ya, in the old days, and even now in the African continent or those of African heritage here.

The modern day obesity is almost entirely convenient food induced, and lack of exercise or over indulgence and lack of application except orally.
By:
moisok
When: 24 Jan 20 18:13
I am in trouble with the forum then.  A pint of london pride, cheese and onion with four slices of allisons wholemeal.  Will I be banned?
By:
impossible123
When: 24 Jan 20 18:42
Allinson Wholemeal (Batch Baked) is yummy with jam or cheese or slightly salted crisp as filling. I do not do vino.
By:
sageform
When: 24 Jan 20 19:34
Aspro, mostly the feathered variety but the female form is an art formHappy My wife and I watched the local Westhay Starling murmurations this evening which is still a marvel after living close to it for 20 years. We are spoilt living within 3 miles of 4 National nature reserves and only 10 miles from the Severn estuary.
By:
moisok
When: 24 Jan 20 19:46
sage   you should be placed in the river and allowed to 'float' for the privilege of living there  - how very dare you - taunting us all with that post

all the way up it is marvelous  - my preference is towards bridgnorth etc 

all the bestExcited
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 25 Jan 20 12:58
We eat until we're full.
And anything the body can't burn it stores for the time when there's no food about.
That time never comes. So we have to fall back on our intelligence to regulate the amounts we eat if we're not to get fat and useless.

This is the problem.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 25 Jan 20 13:00
A function that nature gave us to extend our lives, is causing many people to live shorter lives.
By:
impossible123
When: 25 Jan 20 16:41
Only the greedy and mentality compromised ones - the majority are ok, glad to say.
By:
sageform
When: 25 Jan 20 18:10
moisok, I can't swim and probably would not float either. The Levels are quite a contrast to the south Cotswolds where I spent most of my life. It is 3 degrees C warmer here on average.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 25 Jan 20 23:05
guy called me fat but hey I'm obese
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 26 Jan 20 11:32
The odd thing is, people who are overweight after middle age usually look healthier in the face than people of comparable age who are not overweight. The fat smoothes out their wrinkles and they generally look a more robust.

We often hear comments like ''I saw so and so the other day - he does look well for his age.''

Then you discover he takes tablets for blood pressure, diabetes and high cholesterol, and has already had a heart bypass operation.
The bloke's knocking on death's door, ''but he does look well for his age.''

He'll look even better laid out in his coffin after he's been embalmed.
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