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These muslim rapists waited outside foster and care homes, fkin scum...

No mention at all on BBC news report regarding their ethnic group

Maybe it was the chinese after all

It is Pakistani specific. these Pakistanis are the lowest of the low taking advantage of vulnerable young white females to satisfy their depraved sexual needs and double sexual standards. Let's hope those convicted in later trials will receive hefty sentences to reflect their crimes. And, deported back to their country of origin, if not born in The UK.

I think it is safer to say it is Muslim specific. Eight of the nine in Sheffield courts at the moment are Kurdish.

my better half had  smooth fm  (I think it was)   described as 'GANGS'  I do not joke - nothing else - just a series of offences - no mention of any other detail

As I have said before  - it is all in the book - go read it.

Old Bill implicated. A society is gone when the Law sides with nonces.

If the relevant law chief is under a Labour council he will look the other way, it is clearly expected.

BBC News main story, all about police blame only mention of the guilty parties was " the perpetrators of course all came from one ethnic minority which the authorities recognised has itself been a victim of predudice & racism "

When you think the BBC  could not get any worse

Those convicted and in prisons have been Pakistani specific except the odd one or two. However, these 8 from Kurdish individuals could be a major concern, and I hope they have not been influenced by a lack of punishment for the Pakistani perpetrators to commit this heinous crime.

This filthy, vile scum need to be rounded up, lined up against a wall and filled full of lead, after shooting their b0llocks off 1st, useless fooking high rankin police, council bosses and social workers who turned a blind eye to this wholesale raping off white kids should be made to do it as well! Probably time to either castrate all males from this background or drop them off in the Atlantic with some heavy lead tied to their feet!
Wake up England for fack sake!

These sickos are lucky. Had the crimes been committed in another country they could be subject to caning in public in addition to the custodial sentence.

A victim of prejudice and racism, the perpetrators? They are the one full of racial and prejudicial views against other ethnic group and locals - they think they are superior. They choose not to integrate, and live in clusters with their own.

Tommy Robinson sent to prison for reporting on these muslim paedos, while the police let them off...country fked.

prosecute those who knew and ignored it as well as the scum who carried it out ,dont let any of them get away with it hunt the scum down and bring em to trial .

OMFG

In August 2017, Champion resigned from her post following criticism of an opinion piece she wrote for The Sun that discussed what she termed the "problem" of white girls being raped and exploited by British Pakistani men, and which fellow Labour MP Naz Shah described as "incendiary and irresponsible".

Naz Shah who said white girls should shut their mouths for the good of diversity, and given a promotion by Corbyn...SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE FAST

votes over lives !

Muslims win bake off

Asians rape underage white girls

I hope you mean South Asians mainly Pakistanis not Asians like my Turkish, Malaysian, Singaporean and Japanese friends. Also, I have amongst my friends two Afghanistanis and a Kurdish - they are both very nice too.

the authorities who knew about it and did nothing gotta be held account . will they tho ?

2004 policewoman said cover up and closed, LABOUR OF COURSE!!!

the  police and aurthorites  who  knew and did nothing gave the green light for it to continue nationwide .

Why has there been no rape gang in the large county of North Yorkshire?

PRETTY FKIN OBVIOUS!

labour off course ,
not the current PM who said any money investigating these type of crimes was spaffing money up the wall

It's sickening and shocking yet no one was willing/able to put a stop to it. Those in authority chose not to act it or get involved as it was non-career conducive, and politically incorrect.

I hope no stone is left un-turned to bring the perpetrators to justice.

I have listened to ch4's  so called report.

It proves that all you deranged right wing cave dwellers are so wrong and basically racist.
There we no muslims involved in these disgusting crimes.  No mention at all.

'get other ethnicities into it'   ho ho

anyone remember that big line up of perps in the papers with a Sick with an orange turban at the fore??

turned out he had been a muslim and changed when he got caught - you just have to laugh at how the whole thing is portrayed.   

If you try to do anything and even say anything you could easily lose your job

I understand a whistleblower brought this to the attention of the authorities and not the authorities discovering it  although  they already knew

The ethnicity of the perpetrators ie Pakistanis was specifically mentioned by an Asian guest (a former high-ranking copper/facilitator I believe) on BBC News with Simon McCoy. The guest even said it was a concern as it was a community specific ie Pakistanis.

NO MUSLIMS

sorry  - on ch4

I think they will now be forced to pursue the 97 with a renewed vigour.

I hope one day the beeb and channel four are left with no viewers. I'll have no sympathy at all, treating their viewers like idiots.

hope so saddo

if this was white men doing it to asian girls they would bring back hanging,it scary to think how much of this is being covered up across the country and europe

There was a chap on C4 news said 43 chief constables will be in a similar position if this one is pursued.

How did The UK get to this stage? A bunch of Pakistanis systematically abusing young and vulnerable white girls for many years with the authorities not lifting a finger to help despite several warnings and info from those with 1st-hand knowledge that the vile crime was happening.

And, the British media it seems have not been able to report the truth for fear of being labelled racist or discriminatory against this ethnic group.

The problem is that this carry on has been Deemed as ACCEPTABLE for Decades , Rape and Murder , Our lefty Luvvie friends and the Law all happy to turn a blind eye , Infact some involved ....

The only thing they wont Accept is the Dream of Diversity , is in fact an on going nightmare ,there are at east 4 or 5 murders that are known about ,Girls houses burnt down , ran over by cars and even sold as kebab meat from a shop in Blackpool

NOTHING DONE !! add to that Girls who just went missing added quickly to the Runaway List , A full Nationwide public inquiry
needs to be set up .............

Jan 14, 2020 -- 9:11PM, casemoney wrote:

The only thing they wont Accept is the Dream of Diversity , is in fact an on going nightmare ,there are at east 4 or 5 murders that are known about ,Girls houses burnt down , ran over by cars and even sold as kebab meat from a shop in Blackpool

Exactly some horrific cases most dont know about...

Following a police decision to treat Charlene's disappearance as murder, there were several arrests in the case, and two men stood trial in May 2007. The prosecution alleged at Preston Crown Court that Charlene had been murdered by Iyad Albattikhi, a 29-year-old man from Jordan and the owner of "Funny Boyz" fast-food outlet in Blackpool. Mohammed Reveshi, Albattikhi's business partner, was accused of disposing of her body. According to the prosecution, Albattikhi had sex with Charlene.[20][21] The prosecution alleged that the men had discussed disposing of her body by putting it in kebabs sold from the fast food outlet.[5][22]

Mashed her body up and sold it as kebab to the Blackpool folk...why do 95% of the public no nothing of this case?

SHE WAS 14

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Charlene_Downes

..and the bastards got away with it...

We cannot have our diverse friends accused of chopping up young girls to sell as Kebab meat , These people are Gangsters
Drugs murders rape you name it Thousands involved Most of the Girls involved prostituted , we had Teams on
the streets of Glasgow a few months trying to buy young girls ..

Most of you will never heard of Kriss Donald, stabbed and set on fire while alive...by a muslim gang looking to kill a white, so why was this ignored but Lawrence murder so well known...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kriss_Donald

Kriss Donald (2 July 1988 – 15 March 2004) was a 15-year-old white Scottish boy who was kidnapped and murdered in Glasgow in 2004 by a gang of men of Pakistani origin (though locally raised),[1] some of whom fled to Pakistan after the crime.[3][4][5][6] Daanish Zahid, Imran Shahid, Zeeshan Shahid and Mohammed Faisal Mustaq were later found guilty of racially motivated murder and sentenced to life imprisonment.[3][4]

The case, which featured the first-ever conviction for racially motivated murder in Scotland, is cited in two newspaper articles as an example of the lack of attention the media and society give to white sufferers of racist attacks compared to that given to ethnic minorities.[7][8] It is also suggested the crime demonstrates how society has been forced to redefine racism so as to no longer exclude white victims.[9]

On 15 March 2004, Donald was abducted from Kenmure Street by five men associated with a local British Pakistani gang led by Imran Shahid. The kidnapping was ostensibly revenge for an attack on Shahid at a nightclub in Glasgow city centre the night before by a local white gang, and Donald was chosen as an example of a "white boy from the McCulloch Street area" despite having no involvement in the nightclub attack or in any gang activity.[1][10][11][12][13]

Donald was taken on a 200-mile journey to Dundee and back while his kidnappers made phone calls looking for a house to take him to. Having no success at this, they returned to Glasgow and took him to the Clyde Walkway, near Celtic Football Club's training ground.[1][11] There, they held his arms (ascertained due to an absence of defensive wounds) and stabbed him multiple times. He sustained internal injuries to three arteries, one of his lungs, his liver and a kidney. He was doused in petrol and set on fire as he bled to death.

"The BBC has been criticised by some viewers because the case featured on national news only three times and the first trial was later largely confined to regional Scottish bulletins including the verdict itself"

THE BBC DISGRACE STILL AT IT...

Newsnight now BBC2

In 2001, in Rotherham - the Weir report (from wikipedia):

Weir handed her report to a South Yorkshire Police inspector; the only feedback was that it was "unhelpful".[91] According to the Jay report, one incident was, for Weir, the "final straw". A victim decided to file a complaint with the police. The perpetrators had smashed her parents' windows and broken her brothers' legs to stop her from reporting the rapes. Weir took her to the police station, but while there the victim received a text from the perpetrator to say he had her 11-year-old sister with him, and it was "your choice". This led the victim to believe someone had told the perpetrator she was at the police station, and she decided not to proceed with the complaint.[92] Following this, with the consent of her manager, Weir wrote in October 2001 to Mike Hedges, the Chief Constable of South Yorkshire Police, and to Christine Burbeary, the District Commander.[93][91] The letter said:

I have been visiting agencies, encouraging them to relay information to the police. Their responses have been identical—they have ceased passing on information as they perceive this to be a waste of time. Parents also have ceased to make missing person reports, a precursor to any child abduction investigation, as the police response is often so inappropriate. ... Children are being left at risk and their abusers unapprehended.[94][95]

The letter was not well received by the council or police.[96][97] During a meeting at Rotherham police station with senior police and council officials, they seemed incensed that Weir had written to the Chief Constable. Jayne Senior, who was present, said Weir was subjected to a "tirade that lasted I don't know how long".[98] According to Weir, at some point after this an official warned her against mentioning Asian men:

She said you must never refer to that again. You must never refer to Asian men. And her other response was to book me on a two-day ethnicity and diversity course to raise my awareness of ethnic issues.[87][98]

Treat this girl the same as Steven Laurence,the guilty must be face justice and that includes all those that turned a blind eye to keep their jobs.

Are the guilty Japanese,Chinese,Hindu,Etc,or are they a certain group of Asian men,very unfair to lump all Asian men as nasty perverted chid rapist imo.

Listened to radio 5 live this morning regarding this subject and NOT surprised the story was totally ignored... but not to worry...as long as the Women's football results were brought to our attention!!

For anyone wondering about the BBC's attitude to this, I urge you to read 'The Noble Liar' by Robin Aitken (or to give it its full title 'The Noble Liar - How and Why the BBC Distorts the News to Promote a Liberal Agenda')

John Humphrys comments on this area are also enlightening - and would have carried more weight if he'd eaised them before he retired wrather than whilst he was still riding the gravy train

I'd suggest we all lobby our MPs to demand action about all these vile cases and the lack of action by police etc, but then i remembered my MP is Khalid Mahmood!

Could be worse . Could have been Naz Shah

Pakistan is in South Asia which comprises India, Pakistan, Bangladesh (East Pakistan) and Sri Lanka. I think one has to be more specific, to avoid tarnishing the rest of Asia eg China, Japan, Taiwan, Korea, etc, and South East Asia eg Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, Phillippines, Thailand, etc.

The majority of immigrants in The UK are from South Asia ie Pakistanis, Indians and Sri Lankans in comparison to others from the Asia continent.

Rotherham...I've posted this before. South Yorkshire Plod utter scum. Nicola Blackwood reads from the Jay Report.

From 10:22 for 4 minutes.

https://youtu.be/rn9P4ZGq7JU?t=622

never known Chinese Japananese to be known as  Asian  ...always regarded as  Oriental .

Asian are commonly known as the brown people  ...Indian ,Pakistani,Bangladeshi, Sri Lanka.

I've never ever got on with Pakistani folk ,really dislike  the ones i've met  unlike the Indians   ...Pakistani's  not my cup of tea  at all ,but you can't label them all as sex offenders  ffs  ..and thats the thing with labels

Just a bit more ob BBC News just a few moments ago on Simon Mc Coy: 56 cases in the pipeline; 314 suspected cases; 344 suspect.

Absolutely agree...cannot label the whole community. It's only those perpetrators convicted; almost everyone was Pakistani or of Pakistani origin. And loads more apparently according to latest reports; the ports would be busy, I guess.

i'm sure there are some decent Pakistanis out there ,so  the last thing you want is a pack mentality targeting every single Pakistani   ...

meanwhile while it helps to know the enemy  you have to have to be careful

Until they hold to account those in authority who turn a blind eye to this kind of thing when it involves certain people, it will carry on.

First one on my list here would be Andy Burnham Mayor of Greater Manchester since 2017.
Labour MP Tony Lloyd was crime commissioner for Manchester between 2012 - 2017.
Another one who was getting paid to do nothing.

I'd ask them why they allowed it to happen on their watch when so many knew it was going on?

Hold the police accountable. When you start sending them to jail the rest of the scum will do their job. And that will stop the pakistanis from continuing without any fear.

If you're just going to whine about how the latest van was full of Pakistanis, you're going nowhere. 3 decades of the same crime doesn't take place without police support.

It's of utmost concern it is Pakistanis specific, why? Have they got a gripe against the locals only? Even if victims of discrimination and/or racism they cannot be used as an excuse for committing this vile crime against females.

The point has to be made to the Pakistani community that this has stained their name or it will continue among them while others just shrug and turn a blind eye to what is happening.
A tad unfair to blame Burnham Crips, this has been happening across GMP for two decades,read the excellent book Survivors by Maggie Oliver,a policewoman who fought for justice for three girls from Rochdale. Talking to a headmaster in 2003 he said "thank goodness you are here,we have been banging on the doors of social services for two years and they will not do anything".

These people in authority that have blocked these investigations should be prosecuted for dereliction of duty as much as the perpetrators.
The victims were children as young as 11 and 12 and have been discarded by our society like disposable waste.

Of you want a child rapist for a neighbour vote Labour.

Dear me a new slogan for the Steptoe Mob

Jan 15, 2020 -- 8:53PM, flushgordon1 wrote:

Of you want a child rapist for a neighbour vote Labour.

CORRECT

Whether it's robbery, drug smuggling, people trafficking, benefit/credit card fraud, sex crimes, etc, if it's a community specific this must be brought into the public attention. It's not discrimination or racism, but keeping others fully aware of the goings-on in order to reduce or prevent such crimes from happening.

Some of us could be related to victims of such crimes esp if they are perpetrated by a certain group of the population or profession. This is not discrimination, but targeting the cause and source so that a more effective solution or remedy could be implemented. If it involves a specific ethnic minority group sobeit - tough - but that's the only way forward, and sweeping it under the carpet will not. A reduction of that crime will benefit the community concerned too, and others.

I just hope the community concerned here ought to be honest with themselves and ask soul-searching questions why their male-folks are committing this heinous crimes against young vulnerable white girls.

it may not be just young white girls,women are treated very poorly in the asian community,we lived next door to a indian couple who were having a baby and she told my wife she would love a girl but really hopes its a boy because it will be treated better

Labour's denial may have been an issue last month across the north which seems to have witnessed much abuse but the sad part is that other ethnic groups contain females that will have suffered and felt unable to reach out for help in tightly controlled communities.Ignoring the scale of the problem has helped nobody.

And so it goes on....

A teenage girl was raped in an alley on a Rochdale estate.

A manhunt has been launched following the sickening attack.

Police were called to Birch Road in Wardle on Wednesday evening (January 15).

Detectives say the attacker is believed to be 'black or of dual heritage'; 5ft 8; of medium build; and aged between 30 and 40.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/man-rape-teenager-wardle-rochdale-17578549

Injera • January 16, 2020 9:16 PM GMT
And so it goes on....

Detectives say the attacker is believed to be 'black or of dual heritage'; 5ft 8; of medium build; and aged between 30 and 40.

........... don't ya just love these modern descriptions of ethnics ?

South Asian boys always come 1st before the girls unless the parents are (English) educated and open-minded; the parents lacking these qualities have tended to be old-fashioned and hell-bent on upholding the tradition of the male hierarchy being the leader of the house even if they are not intelligence blessed and lazy.

Just to quote Judge Rinder, you either are pregnant or not pregnant; you cannot be half pregnant. Either someone is black or not black. The definition of dual heritage, according to 'Google', is of different ethnic parents or cultural backgrounds.

Meghan is apparently black. However child rapists are 'Asian', 'black or of 'dual heritage'.

I'm confused dot.com

The tide is turning. These f*ckwits on the left are running out of excuses.

Unforgivable: Police ignore rape gangs again


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=LiPRa6V4lzw&feature=emb_logo

Anne Marie saying it as it is.

How is this woman allowed to keep spouting such hateful truths ? I'm sure there are laws in place to silence honest intelligent people like her .

Former GMP Detective and Whistleblower Maggie Oliver on the continued debacle, “Things have not changed”

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQpMLrvbr_A

“GMP have spent a full year battling to prevent this being published … Rochdale social services are refusing to hand over any information in relation to that case, the cover up and the secrecy continues.”

Greater Manchester Police Chief Constable Ian Hopkins has apologised to the children abused "in plain sight" by the grooming gangs his officers failed to bring to justice.

He spoke after a damning report revealed senior Greater Manchester Police (GMP) officers and senior officials at Manchester City Council, looking after many of the victims in care, were aware but did nothing to act.

A police drive called Operation Augusta to tackle street grooming by gangs of Asian males preying on vulnerable teenage girls in Manchester was launched then abruptly closed down by senior officers in 2004.

His officers are now trying to track down paedophiles 15 years after their victims first told of the abuse.

Former Greater Manchester Police detective and Rochdale whistle-blower Maggie Oliver talks to Julia Hartley-Brewer.

Sorry all this unveiling should stop.  It may upset the community.

Maggie a very brave lady and tbh very lucky she has not been taken out , She should be allowed to Address parliament ..

An astounding and truthful interview ................

Labour councils ,all we can say is thank foook Steptoe and the team have been destroyed............

As for Burnham saying how shocking it all is , Its still going on FFS , and He already knew it was going on , Start with Him .

casemoney 18 Jan 20 13:37 
Maggie a very brave lady and tbh very lucky she has not been taken out , She should be allowed to Address parliament ..

An astounding and truthful interview ................




There is a Lady in The House of Lords  because her child was the victim of a race crime. I wish her no ill will, but Maggie lost her career and will probably get nowt, because race relations came before child rape.

Labour to blame for all this, came from the top Gordon Brown, Jacqui Smith both told them to ignore the rapes for diversity...and the depsicable Naz Shah who is still labour mp for Bradford...

LABOUR PARTY A REVOLTING TRAITOR PARTY TO THIS COUNTRY

Jan 18, 2020 -- 11:15AM, lux wrote:

Former GMP Detective and Whistleblower Maggie Oliver on the continued debacle, “Things have not changed”www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQpMLrvbr_A“GMP have spent a full year battling to prevent this being published … Rochdale social services are refusing to hand over any information in relation to that case, the cover up and the secrecy continues.”Greater Manchester Police Chief Constable Ian Hopkins has apologised to the children abused "in plain sight" by the grooming gangs his officers failed to bring to justice.He spoke after a damning report revealed senior Greater Manchester Police (GMP) officers and senior officials at Manchester City Council, looking after many of the victims in care, were aware but did nothing to act.A police drive called Operation Augusta to tackle street grooming by gangs of Asian males preying on vulnerable teenage girls in Manchester was launched then abruptly closed down by senior officers in 2004.His officers are now trying to track down paedophiles 15 years after their victims first told of the abuse.Former Greater Manchester Police detective and Rochdale whistle-blower Maggie Oliver talks to Julia Hartley-Brewer.

Great Interview. If I am not mistaken, the word Muslim was only mentioned once, that too by the interviewer trying to take the conversation to the fact that almost all are pakistanis. This woman was a part of police and it took her 15 years to get the force to at least accept they did something wrong. That is how hard it gets when the police is a part of the con. Get the scum in uniform and the gangs won't have the support to operate.

There was a rape 3 days ago of a 16 year old and the area was cordoned off that evening by the police. The same police that has been backing the rapists for 3 decades. And people think they'll catch the guy when the very reason they're there is to ensure he isn't caught!

Sorry doridoru but the turn a blind eye began with Blair, these crimes were happening on his watch and there had even been channel 4 documentary called Despatches that reported on this behaviour but was sidelined instead of following it up.

none of you respect cultural differences or diversity

We cannot disrespect the largest minority ethnic group of foreigners of Pakistani heritage in The UK even though this heinous sexual crimes was against vulnerable young white girls - it's only been happening over a period of 3 decades! What is this country coming to if crimes of this nature could be swept under the carpet for over 3 decades for fear of creating racial tensions?

I think cultural differences and diversity have been taken to another level not acceptable in the western world certainly not in The UK regardless - racial tensions or not. I hope those responsible (including those in authorities) will be brought to justice in due course - later better than never.

I also hope the victims and their families compensated accordingly.

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