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impossible123
04 Jan 20 16:50
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An Uber Eats/Deliveroo moped rider was stabbed to death in North London yesterday. He is thought to be an Algerian known as Taki. Is anyone setting up a fundraising page for his family? The 3 BA cabin crew so tragically killed in a motor accident raised over £40k since wednesday.

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By:
johnnythebull
When: 04 Jan 20 16:55
read about this earlier..poor c*nt..just trying to do the best 4 himself & family

one guess who did it?
By:
saddo
When: 04 Jan 20 16:55
Why do they attack these riders, cash, bike or both? Algeria is probably safer than Landan tbf, but the grass is always greener.......
By:
Crisp77
When: 04 Jan 20 16:56
Be nice if his employers set up a fund or an insurance pot for their drivers and families

Food delivery startup Deliveroo is one of the UK's hottest and most valuable startups, worth at least $2 billion and probably more after Amazon's participation in a $575 million investment. Business Insider understands the company had been hoping for a new valuation of at least $4 billion.17 May 2019
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 04 Jan 20 17:16
Algeria is probably safer than Landan tbf, but the grass is always greener.......

Murder rates about the same, 1.4/100,000 to 1.6/100,000

Road deaths 23.8 for Algeria 3.1 for the UK
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 04 Jan 20 17:17
1.6 is for London it's 1.2 for the UK as a whole.

North Yorkshire the road death capital of the UK I think.  Country lanes far more dangerous
By:
casemoney
When: 04 Jan 20 17:28
These firms a Load of Shyte used it once 2 hours later Cold food turned up , Driver was told where to go with it ..

Ring the Takeaway ffs ..
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 04 Jan 20 17:29
12,000 people a year die from falling down the stairs in the USA
By:
casemoney
When: 04 Jan 20 17:32
And always use a CC as you can ur dosh back ,if the food is substandard ..
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 04 Jan 20 18:13
Don't get the concept myself.  Why do you need a middle man (the App company) to ring the takeaway?  Just ring them directCrazy
By:
Injera
When: 04 Jan 20 18:22
If this was a copper or a fireman (or an MP) we wouldn't hear the last of it.

Gentleman goes to work, probably on min wage, and gets attacked, stabbed and killed.

'Taki' and '30 yrs' is we all know about him. No surname.

It's like he doesn't exist. Well guess what.....Sad

'Det Ch Insp Neil John said the stabbing appeared to be "spontaneous".

Deliveroo confirmed the victim worked for the company, while Uber Eats said it was "looking into it".' - I'm sure his family will be relieved.
By:
moisok
When: 04 Jan 20 18:26
Khan, Dick(common purpose)  Lammy and Abbot don't give a toss.  As long as they have their politically solid enclaves to support them, while Dick sails along behind them  - these are the clowns,  along with May, cheered on the stop the stop and search campaign.

But will Patel  do anything about it??
By:
moisok
When: 04 Jan 20 18:27
ps  it is always happening around that area
By:
casemoney
When: 04 Jan 20 18:28
Been loads of it Last year INJ poor fookers attacked with Acid scooters nicked , Cannon fodder as long as the Civ lib mob get their chinese Delivered they dont care ..
By:
moisok
When: 04 Jan 20 18:30
Forget the murders - look how many attempted killings and stabbing that have taken place  -THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS
By:
detraveller
When: 04 Jan 20 18:31

Jan 4, 2020 -- 6:13PM, CLYDEBANK29 wrote:


Don't get the concept myself.  Why do you need a middle man (the App company) to ring the takeaway?  Just ring them direct


Having a delivery service and a person to deliver food costs loads of money. What if someone told you they'll send a person to pick up and deliver your food and all you as the restaurant owner have to do is give them 30% of the sale of that order? Make sense now?

Also we are lazy. We don't have time to go and buy food when we can have it delivered at our doorstep for no extra cost. Make sense now?

By:
casemoney
When: 04 Jan 20 18:32
Where I live the Deliveries are by Car , But of course in Luvvie London that would take too long ,So make sure there are some poor fookers at your beck n call ... Probably living 10 to a house if they are lucky , filling the Pockets of our Friedly Diverse Landlords.
By:
casemoney
When: 04 Jan 20 18:35
Most up here on a set wage , Factored in with a small charge added , plus they get a tip as after  while  you know the various drivers ,Seen a few will bring the Kids with them , can you imagine that in London
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 04 Jan 20 18:35
The number of people admitted to hospital for falling down the stairs is in the region of 100,000 a year.  It's 4,000 for knife crime
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 04 Jan 20 18:44
None of that makes sense to me detraveller.  It is at extra cost, that's why it doesn't make sense.
By:
detraveller
When: 04 Jan 20 20:51
I am not sure if I understand you properly. You asked what was the point of the app, the middleman bringing you the food, when you could directly call the restaurant's takeaway service?

I explained why its more profitable(or less expensive) for the restaurant to use that third party for food delivery. The restaurant only pays when there is an order, and then too a very small amount, compared to having a delivery boy available at all times with a vehicle. The cost difference is huge.

It is at extra cost, that's why it doesn't make sense
Extra cost to whom?
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 04 Jan 20 22:03
The middleman is Deliveroo, not the delivery driver
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 04 Jan 20 22:04
it's an extra cost to the consumer and the restaurant.  In reality market econmoics means it's borne by the consumer
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 04 Jan 20 22:08
They've thrown 100s of millions if not billions at it in advertising and set up costs.  It's the consumer that pays
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 04 Jan 20 22:12
Of course if an alternative is picking it up yourself then the delivery driver is a middleman too.  Our local curry house offers a 10% deduction if you pick it up yourself.
By:
detraveller
When: 04 Jan 20 22:13
I had the opportunity to look at Lieferando's business. They are the german equivalent of Deliveroo.

Here, the customer doesn't pay anything extra. He can pick out any item from the restaurant's menu and have it delivered at his home for no extra cost. The restaurant does pay, but I am saying they pay less than what they would if they had their own delivery service.

For instance, one restaurant I looked at had about 5-6 Lieferando drivers present there at one point. Each driver had 2 orders. The prep time for the orders was under 10 min and the delivery time under 15 mins. Getting the orders to the restaurant and relaying it to a driver also took about 1-10 mins, depending on the time of the day. Can you do a cost comparison for a restaurant giving out 30% on a delivery of 12 orders(avg order cost 15 Euros) within an hour compared to the same restaurant having to deliver 12 orders using its own staff and vehicles? Surely the app/middleman is the better option for the restaurant?
By:
detraveller
When: 04 Jan 20 22:14
When you use deliveroo in UK, do you pay the same price as shown on the restaurant's menu or do you pay extra?
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 04 Jan 20 22:22
The prices maybe the same but the consumer pays with higher prices.  Of course if you are savvy like aour local curry house, you recognise this by offering discounts for collection.  Take aways should be cheaper, they don't need waiters and as large premises.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 04 Jan 20 22:23
or people to wash up and clean up afterwards
By:
detraveller
When: 04 Jan 20 22:23
The prices maybe the same but the consumer pays with higher prices
How does the consumer pay extra when he pays the same amount as the guy who dines in?
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 04 Jan 20 22:30
well detraveller you are wrong on 2 counts.

1. You are not comparing like with like.  Like for like is takeaway v takeaway, not takeaway v sit down
2. If costs go up, prices go up.
By:
detraveller
When: 04 Jan 20 22:35
I do have the feeling that we probably aren't talking about the same things. But I fail to understand why you keep saying the costs increase. Let's consider a restaurant. Its delivery costs are $x. Using Lieferando, it reduces its delivery costs by half. What costs are going up, that you think are passed to the consumer?
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 04 Jan 20 22:36
If of course the cost to the consumer for a takeaway is the same for picking it up as it is for having it delivered, they won't pick it up.  I don't get why a restaurant would want that.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 04 Jan 20 22:38
anyhow best to call it a day on the subject!
By:
detraveller
When: 04 Jan 20 22:41
Yes the costs are the same. And yes that puts the restaurant at a disadvantage and I have wondered that too, as some of the deliveries Lieferando has to do are less than 50m away. That is indeed a problem, but probably the restaurant has to do what the otehrs are doing in its neighborhood.

By the way the app isn't a profitable business in my opinion. Lieferando's running at a loss, an awful amount of money spend on ads, offers and equipment. Earning potential is limited. Probably just investing into the future as they keep buying any small company that crops us offering the same service.
By:
BARROWBOY
When: 05 Jan 20 23:23
From experience,the delivery side of a takeaway is by far the biggest headache.its probably the nature of the job but it does attract more than its fair share of ne er do wells.if you find a clean polite reliable driver with a reliable motor then he’s gold dust.iv seen all sorts over the years,drivers clearing off with the money,drivers pretending they’ve been robbed,untaxed cars uninsured drivers,drivers selling drugs along with the food.one woman sold school holiday weeks holidays10 times over in a non existent caravan taking all deposits & did a runner,apparently the shop was overrun for weeks with irate holidaymakers!
If you can outsource all that **** then it’s a no brainer
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