President Trump Gives those Beastly Saracens a Bloody Nose

now there will be even more - and they hate us - or the politicos tell us they do

you've never won a war but you,ve never lost a negotiation

GET ROUND THE TABLE

Saddo

I think it was bombed months ago, these vermin don't tell us owt until its to late

"bad karma" not to keep us in the game, except we're always 2 minutes behind live pictures ffs, so it kinda renders their karma belief void

Jan 3, 2020 -- 3:38PM, saddo wrote:

Something must be going on there Sontaran, most of the recent economic refugees landing on our beaches are Iranian

Is there something to back up this claim?

I've just seen the photos of this general. He was in the news a couple of months ago as someone who revolutionized the Iranian intelligence services or something on those lines. Looks like we may be in for a few skirmishes on Iraqi territory. Safe for both the countries involved and a moneymaker for the sponsors of the equipment.

Telegraph claims british troops in Iraq under an increased threat. Time to send in more sheep? Or pull out the ones already there? Think its safe to say it'll be the former.

Detrav

The army were calling with a despicable ad for lonely/depressed people the other day

They are desperate now, so much so they are begging people to join with horrible tactics

rubber boat business will be booming

Detraveller.



https://www.spectator.co.uk/2019/01/irans-boat-people-and-why-theyre-coming-to-britain/

https://news.sky.com/video/iranian-migrants-risk-their-lives-to-live-in-england-11832071

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frbJNaKAmWA

Of course the media wont actually tell you the real reason they're here

Just some good ole fashioned spinaroo

I presume they are here because they know that only a few will be refused refugee status and all he benefits that brings.

So bombing the living daylight out of them has nothing to do with it

They would go to the nearest country of refuge if that was the case I would think. Some of them spend months in France waiting to break in here, one on the video was removed and paid to be smuggled in again. There must be a financial reason for targeting our system.

He was convicted in absentia and sentenced to death by Kuwait for his role in the 1983 attacks on the U.S. and French embassies in Kuwait, in which five Kuwaitis were killed.

He has had a good run imo  , Perhaps the Kuwait Mob sent Don a few quid

Wouldn't like to be working in a US embassy Monday morning...

It's all the world needs
Religious nutters on one side and a money worshipping guy whos nearly 80 on the other.

There are no US Iranian embassies, they got run out in the 70s.
The ones in the middle are Europe but they are largley redundant since trump drew lines in the Nuclear agreement scrapping.

If I were Iran Id go nuts deep in nuclear development now and hope the Russian ambivilence and Chinese mistrust through trade issues falls behind them.

His CV included helping Shia militias to kill hundreds of American troops during the US invasion of Iraq,  backing Assad as he slaughtered civilians by the thousands during the Syrian civil war, and most recently overseeing the slaughter of hundreds of anti-Iran protesters in Iraq.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7847905/Qassem-Soleimani-terrorist-...

I don't think you'll find many people on here sad that this guy is dead, but what has happened to Trump saying the US should be out of the ME etc? 3k more troops sent there now. I know he liked saying Obama would start a war with Iran to get re-elected, but what is the upside here for Trump? A war with Iran is not going to be popular in the US. Perhaps the evangelicals have more clout in the admin that I thought they had

Jan 3, 2020 -- 5:44PM, Injera wrote:

His CV included helping Shia militias to kill hundreds of American troops during the US invasion of Iraq,  backing Assad as he slaughtered civilians by the thousands during the Syrian civil war, and most recently overseeing the slaughter of hundreds of anti-Iran protesters in Iraq. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7847905/Qassem-Soleimani-terrorist-...

Lol, the Daily Mail...

pp - you going to the funeral with your mate Jezza?

Jan 3, 2020 -- 5:58PM, Injera wrote:

pp - you going to the funeral with your mate Jezza?

Which party do you believe I vote for injera?

Labour front Bench calling for a day of Mourning .

Imagine Jezza was at the Helm now , and I left my Right Shoe at Home secretary involved

President Trumps aim is remarkably accurate , and his judgement swift .

Don't give a monkey's pp. Your obfusication is transparent though.

At some point we are going to have to look at locking up Corbyn ( not only him ) in one of our modern prisons, life sentence without parole  , he is already quilty of treason  there is evidence to convict him .

Jan 3, 2020 -- 6:09PM, Injera wrote:

Don't give a monkey's pp. Your obfusication is transparent though.

You don't know, do you?

Jan 3, 2020 -- 5:58PM, Injera wrote:

pp - you going to the funeral with your mate Jezza?

In fact, you are just a guesser.

Well I'm on a betting site so yup.

Watch Corbyn doesn’t leave the country to attend the funeral and lay a wreath ! , lol

Clearly because it is in the daily mail this thug was not responsible for the ordering the deaths of so many people and a person organising terrorism  to achieve his blood soaked aims.  Oh well he must be innocent.

Oh hang on - does it count if it is in the daily mirror?   - one of pouting punter's attempts to deny.

You really wonder whose side some people are on?

Sorry, should have posted this here instead of creating a new fred but, hey ho

https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/01/03/on-the-assassination-of-soleimani/
.

Moderate Iranian on channel4 is saying yanks to pay a price

if it takes 3 years

"Ironically, however, this manichean approach is now mirrored by the Western liberal critics of Trump. They excuse the authoritarian brutality of the Islamic Republic, because the only evil they see is that of America. Especially Trump’s America, which is supposedly making Satan Great Again. No wonder some are excitedly anticipating World War III, as the apocalyptic denouement of the reign of Trump (despite the fact that neither the US nor Iran has either the will or the capacity to fight even a drawn-out local war). This kneejerk catastrophism tells us little about the reality of US-Iran relations. But it tells us a lot about the moral outlook of too many of Trump’s Western opponents. ndeed, such is their loathing of America and Trump that they actually start to long for something approaching Armageddon.

It seems the anti-Iranian animus of the US foreign-policy establishment is matched only by the anti-US animus of Western liberals. And in these volatile, uncertain times, such myopia is of no help to anyone."

Trump just felt awkward when around his Saudi mate after the killing of Khashoggi

So he had to level the playing field by ordering his own killing

obomber will be furious

UBLE/REGY 03 Jan 20 13:20 
I thought we had moved on from the Crusades
The more killing there is from either side, the more killing there will be to come???????

UBLE/REGY 03 Jan 20 14:33 
We have been killing people in the Middle East since 1990.



Seem to remember explaining this to you before, let`s try again;

islam follows ishmail, the illegitimate son of 86-year old Abraham and his servant girl, with Judaism and Christianity following his legitimate children. Knowing themselves to be the bast@rdy runt of `religion` has bred a resentful hatred for all good, decent, right thinking people, and the only way they can feel better about themselves is if they kill all decency, leaving nobody against which to measure their evil, enabling them to kid themselves they have cast off 1500 years of inferiority. This is why their comic book explicitly tells them to kill or convert their superiors, which they`ve been doing all along, and certainly from before your `1990`! (Without wanting to sound too `playschool-ish`), they started it, we don`t want the fight, if they stop we will.
No other religion demands the killing of all non-followers, as we know we`re not the bast@rds.

Moderate Iranian on CHANNEL 4

My question who actually Gives a fook, Not news imo . I for one have no interest, Yet its the Headlines for Days

We had 2 days of Bag Daddy a few months back . It just gets worse for our civ lib Friends ....

Jan 3, 2020 -- 5:44PM, Injera wrote:

His CV included helping Shia militias to kill hundreds of American troops during the US invasion of Iraq,  backing Assad as he slaughtered civilians by the thousands during the Syrian civil war, and most recently overseeing the slaughter of hundreds of anti-Iran protesters in Iraq. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7847905/Qassem-Soleimani-terrorist-...


Lol, the Daily Mail...

lol the daily mail, quality

Inshallah!

Jan 3, 2020 -- 7:23PM, moisok wrote:

You really wonder whose side some people are on?

If you think this was a good move I suppose you are on the side of the Saudis

Maybe the Kuwaitis read the Daily Mail , perhaps thats why they sentenced him to death ??

Genuine question: Do Trump fans really think all Muslims are on the same side ? They imagine they are all in mourning that this guy is dead ? Do not understand Sunni v Shia etc ? even President W Bush was totally ignorant of this the day he invaded Iraq , so perhaps the average person hasn't a clue/ don't care/ thinks it's not important. I ask because I'm seeing comments on here and elsewhere along the lines of how this is a great strike against Jihadis. Iran is the main reason ISIS isn't ruling Iraq and Syria !

there will be a fair few in iran quite happy with the idea of this guy going

ps he is responsible for the terrorising of any opposition in the country

Saudi Arabia is the source of most of the funding and most of the ideological support for all these jihadis that end up stabbing and bombing people in Europe. Not that Saudi rulers are any more religious than Trump, but they allow fundamentalists to support terrorism abroad as it is an alternative to them overthrowing the Saudi princes. As long as the Saudi regime continues this will carry on. Iran is the only nation they fear.

Sunni v Shia  Yes we understand it fully , It seems if the mosque Sledge Hammer attacks a couple months back are any thing to go by the Muslims in the uk dont understand it .

They were looking for a White Raycist  Instead of a Sh1te

Or was it the Other way round a Sunny

And tbh who actually gives a Flying ???

not me

Jan 3, 2020 -- 9:32PM, moisok wrote:

there will be a fair few in iran quite happy with the idea of this guy going

No doubt. No one is saying he was a nice guy, but killing people from a Saudi hit list does nothing to benefit the West imo

Iran will have to learn to behave themselves and stop threatening America , it’s quite simple .

Go into a soverign country, airstrike it and take out one of their big commanders, and then demand talks and restraint

These people are totally off their rocker, loon balls absolute loons

Oh we hit you but we demand restraint



These people seriously, even kids make more sense and a better moral compass

lfc1971
03 Jan 20 21:57
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Iran will have to learn to behave themselves and stop threatening America , it’s quite simple .

It is a pity America cannot behave themselves as well???????????
They certainly did not today.

just my own opinion

Have a Nice Day now !

didn't know what a saracen was  until now  ...  the club crest for the said rugby club is a bit of a give away i guess

Iran should do all they can to do some serious damage to America

Bark orders, "behave yourselves", the the fack do they think they are?

Jan 3, 2020 -- 7:53PM, timbuctooth wrote:

UBLE/REGY 03 Jan 20 13:20  I thought we had moved on from the CrusadesThe more killing there is from either side, the more killing there will be to come???????UBLE/REGY 03 Jan 20 14:33  We have been killing people in the Middle East since 1990.Seem to remember explaining this to you before, let`s try again;islam follows ishmail, the illegitimate son of 86-year old Abraham and his servant girl, with Judaism and Christianity following his legitimate children. Knowing themselves to be the bast@rdy runt of `religion` has bred a resentful hatred for all good, decent, right thinking people, and the only way they can feel better about themselves is if they kill all decency, leaving nobody against which to measure their evil, enabling them to kid themselves they have cast off 1500 years of inferiority. This is why their comic book explicitly tells them to kill or convert their superiors, which they`ve been doing all along, and certainly from before your `1990`! (Without wanting to sound too `playschool-ish`), they started it, we don`t want the fight, if they stop we will. No other religion demands the killing of all non-followers, as we know we`re not the bast@rds.

Are you a former soldier? Or related to one? Your comment reminds me of an American student at my university, who was in the US army and was attending a business course with us. I asked him how it was possible for the americans to find soldiers motivated enough to start a new war every few years. His response was similar to yours, with the usual addition of fighting bad people, liberating oppressed people, democracy and defending american freedom etc.

The West is not at war with the muslims. It would have won long ago if that was the case. On the contrary, america actually supports militaries of a lot of muslim countries. Egypt, Iraq, Morocco, Pakistan and a bucket load of middle eastern countries get their weapons from America. Saudiarabia, the holiest of all muslim countries, imports shetloads of weapons from america as well as britain. So it doesn't look like the west is at war with them. We are basically supporting and arming them. Your childish 'if they stop, we will too' is bollox because you're the one arming them, so why on earth would you want them to stop?

That kind of story would work great on the sheep going out on deployment but doesn't look sound to me.

I do not discuss my past

But yes I was a soldier once, N. Ireland.
A problem we helped solve.

Sadly this has not happened in the Middle East, the problem just goes on and on.
It is because we do need solutions other than war as well, or the killing will just continue.

I also see the cause of ALL the trouble in the Middle East, but people can work that one out themselves.

I see your post was directed at timbuctooth, detraveller, sorry

Sunni and Shia - gypsys ,tramps and thieves?

The problem over Iran is the fact they have Nuclear Power Stations, for civil use.

We are worried they use they may enrich the Uranium that is produced, to produce Nuclear Weapons.

The West were paying Iran not to do this, but Trump has decided to stop this.

I am not sure this is his best decision, myself

SontaranStratagem 03 Jan 20 22:55 
Go into a soverign country, airstrike it and take out one of their big commanders, and then demand talks and restraint

That`s not correct; they have been invited in by the sovereign nation, and they took out a prime mover in his attempted annexation of the sovereign country by his masters, as part of a plan to reach both The Med, and Israel, which would then be at ever more risk.


SontaranStratagem 03 Jan 20 23:16 
Bark orders, "behave yourselves", the the fack do they think they are?

When dealing with evil trying to kill you, I`d think telling them to behave themselves (or else!), is quite reasonable; you don`t?


UBLE/REGY 04 Jan 20 00:10 
The problem over Iran is the fact they have Nuclear Power Stations, for civil use We are worried they use they may enrich the Uranium that is produced, to produce Nuclear Weapons. The West were paying Iran not to do this, but Trump has decided to stop this.

Also incorrect. obama gave them $1.5 BILLION in return for only a 10 year moratorium, after which they were free to nuke up.

And no, detraveller, as an old hippy pacifist, I have never been a soldier!

Two posts back, my `$1.5 BILLION` should, of course, be `$150 BILLION!!!`

Sunni or Shiite not a rizla paper  between them.

correct, digdeep

I think the world would've been a lot better place -and a lot less American and other Western forces casualties - if Israel had fought it's own battles instead of getting the US to do the fighting. You'd think with tens of billions of dollars the US taxpayer has handed over the last three decades to support Israel's military that they were well equipped to fight their own battles. Why do it yourself when you can get Americans to do it for you?

I agree KAMIKAZEE

Some of us doubt Israel should be there in the first place....still they are there now

I want fairer treatment for the Palestinians, I do not advocate terrorism or war

Poor Israel , surrounded by evil enemies such as Iran

The last thing Israel is, is poor

BBC in full flow will be weeks of it , apparently the body being returned to Iran Looking at the Pic not sure what they will be burying ...

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meanwhile under the radar another one of them killing in france

they don't give up - they are on a mission

Jan 4, 2020 -- 1:21PM, casemoney wrote:

BBC in full flow will be weeks of it , apparently the body being returned to Iran Looking at the Pic not sure what they will be burying ...

The same things we bury when our troops come home in a coffin. What do you think is in there? Its just symbolic.

There are certainly no righteous on either side, you could never trust Iran to get its house in order but on the other you got an impeachable president used car salesman who only keeps his job because there are enough cronies to support him (not innocence) and Netanyahu who avoids serious allegations by a technicality while electioning, both feasibly could end up in jail after office.

Then there’s the weasely way Israel gets preferential treatment, not least the nuclear issue.

Americans can vote Trump out any time they like , Netanyahu can be voted out any time the Israelis like , Israel is a free and democratic country Iran and all other Muslim countries should follow they’d good example and the world would be a better place , not perfect , but much better .

Jan 5, 2020 -- 6:20AM, dustybin wrote:

There are certainly no righteous on either side, you could never trust Iran to get its house in order but on the other you got an impeachable president used car salesman who only keeps his job because there are enough cronies to support him (not innocence) and Netanyahu who avoids serious allegations by a technicality while electioning, both feasibly could end up in jail after office.Then there’s the weasely way Israel gets preferential treatment, not least the nuclear issue.

Agreed.

^ another hater of democracy and the great freedoms we enjoy in Britain and America and Israel .
  dusgraceful really  , no one likes to be thankful

lfc, its a part of democracy to be able to have those opinions. You are contradicting yourself because yesterday you were complaining about the people of Iran not being able to express themselves when you yourself start calling people haters based on their opinions. Grow up.

You also contradict yourself when you ask some countries to settle their matters themselves yet when the americans or the brits are about to invade a country, you justify it by talking about the necessity to help their people.

I was avoiding you for two days but had to put it out. I know im wrong and youre right but I hope you won't mind me expressing myself

lfc constantly contradicting himself? I am shocked, shocked I say!

detraveller you’re confused again , democracy is not about differing opinions , democracy is about sharing the same basic fundamental opinions . That does not mean that everyone is the same of course not , but they must share the same basic fundamental belief in democracy
Also of course sometimes it is good if we can help people who are oppressed and living under a murderous dictatorship , such as Nazi gernany for example so I’m not sure what you are whittering on about there .

Totally agree with you lfc.

good man , we’re getting there :)

Unfortunately democracy is an illusion, a veneer of respectability over a substrate of lies and corruption.
Sure it looks better than theocracy but that’s not much of a comparison. It’s still chock full of criminals, just as I’ve always said; they work harder to cover themselves.

I like living in the U.K.

Don’t trust people like dustybin who claim democracy is an illusion
You see there is N Korea , and there is the U.K.
don’t confuse one with the other .

dustybin 05 Jan 20 10:32 
Unfortunately democracy is an illusion, a veneer of respectability over a substrate of lies and corruption.
Sure it looks better than theocracy but that’s not much of a comparison.
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It really is a choice between one or the other, dusty. Which would you prefer?

Where is the choice?
We don’t get a choice on whether to have democracy or anything else
It’s Hobson’s choice. We get to chose the colour of our own cells, that is all.

‘The people’ shape nothing, no laws or rules. They don’t get a say in the judiciary or parliament and get a very fine line of options within the political system, all of which is controlled by barons and businessmen of one type or another.

Ahhh everyone is oppressing me in Britain , life is so not fair !

William Rees Mogg referred to it as ‘violence’ the part within each human epoch that determines its path
I prefer ‘tyranny’. It was tyranny of the church that controlled the minds, tyranny of the monarchy that wrestled power away, tyranny of the civil war that shaped what we now call politics (had they known would the Roundheads have bothered?) and now tyranny of commerce where the corporation has seeded power, controls the foods controls the information and work.

Lfc you are just a sock puppet, no concern of mine.

And of course your opinion is of no concern of mine dustybin
Isn’t that lovely , in Britain we can be free from people like yourself and their overwhelming will

That’s real freedom , that’s why I like living in the U.K.

Keep whining about the church , or Parliament , or business whatever
You know in Britain you don’t have to go to church , or vote, or even work , isn’t that lovely ?
Keep whining , it’s like sweet music

The only thoughts you have lfc are those you are told to have.
You just aren’t intelligent enough to realise.

Lab rat