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Torquemada
01 Jan 20 22:12
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1. Why are the Tories considering licence fee changes?

2. Why are the Tories boycotting Radio 4?

3. Why are the lefties whinging so bitterly about points 1 and 2.


I’ll tell you why. Because the BBC has been overrun by lefties and has been nothing more than a PC lefty mouthpiece for years. Those who have been denying that fact are either lying or totally deluded.
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Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- January 1, 2020 10:32 PM GMT
2.  because radio 4 refused to trot out johnson propaganda,

1. see 2

3. they are not.
Report Torquemada January 1, 2020 11:07 PM GMT
But you’ve always been a bit lefty, Donny, so fall into the category of the last sentence.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- January 1, 2020 11:23 PM GMT
but i didnt start the thread

you seem to be trying to justify a trumpian action by the tories
by blaming folk not connected to the action.

most odd
Report Torquemada January 1, 2020 11:34 PM GMT
Trumpian! LaughLaughLaugh

I rest my case, M’lud.
Report saddo January 1, 2020 11:37 PM GMT
For 3 years they were unashamedly pro remain and alienated half their audience. In the real world they would be in a Ratnerish position and rightly so. Do not plss off your customers.
Report Reynard January 2, 2020 1:11 AM GMT
At least Ratner was honest enough to admit peddling cr4p Blush
Report Hanx January 2, 2020 9:46 AM GMT
Reading 'The Noble Liar' by Robin Aitken

Very interesting ideas re the long-established liberal mindset within the BBC (especially regarding the reporting of current affairs), why it is there, how it is expressed and how it goes unrecognised by its perpetrators
Report edy January 2, 2020 11:26 AM GMT
The Conservative and Unionist Party is left of centre, so it's a leftist party considering licence fee changes and the entire thread falls flat on its nose.
Report lfc1971 January 2, 2020 11:56 AM GMT
The BBC is riddled with leftists and liberal bias and anti British elements who consider the tories to be ultra right and who are rabidly anti  tory
So the op is correct .
Report edy January 2, 2020 12:44 PM GMT
A lot of people make the mistake to assume that right-wing should mean to not be a decent, righteous human being with a high moral standard. That is just plain wrong. Proper conservatism was always the politics of decency, utmost respect and truthfulness. Sadly, there has been a shift. Now the right wing has been hijacked by people with the rotten moral compass of your typical leftist.

The BBC to this day upholds and defends the old right-wing (and centre) standards regarding basic human decency, which the people with a leftist moral compass decry as "PC".
Report edy January 2, 2020 12:49 PM GMT
*which the wannabe conservatives with the moral compass of a leftist decry as "PC".
Report PorcupineorPineapple January 2, 2020 12:50 PM GMT
Because they've had great success recently and want to double down until more reporters act like Kuennsberg and uncritically parrot Tory HQ?

Hope all questions this year will be as easy to answer.
Report lfc1971 January 2, 2020 1:42 PM GMT
I am sorry the BBC can not claim to represent decent , righteous , high moral standards . In the most important question this country had faced in this last three years they have failed the test . And the Labour Party and the liberal party have failed the test
That holy undertaking when the British voted in a democratic referendum , they failed , and are forever damned , don’t look at the behaviour of the BBC , or the Labour Party or the liberals ..that would only make you sad .
But don’t forget what they tried to do .
Report macarony January 2, 2020 1:50 PM GMT
Why are we forced to pay for the bbc its none essential
Report lfc1971 January 2, 2020 1:51 PM GMT
Only the Tory party , for all their faults , remained true
They alone have passed the ultimate test , it could have destroyed them , they alone were steadfast
Report lfc1971 January 2, 2020 2:16 PM GMT
I remember when I lived in a flat looking out onto the street below one Sunday morning and noticing a couple of men and a woman walking along and stopping here and there . The men dressed in nice overcoats , retirement age , had the look of ex military perhaps and the woman younger , nice looking . They started at the top of the street and worked their way along . I was looking out as one of the men  came to my block of flats , and I could hear the bussers sound , including mine , and then they carried on down the street . They were checking on the BBC license , I had an idea who they were , something about their appearance , Not sure how many people answered the door :)
Report lfc1971 January 2, 2020 2:21 PM GMT
I am very much in favour of the license fee remaining .
It’s the ideal situation .
Report moisok January 2, 2020 4:13 PM GMT
Guests on bbc - remain 82 percent  - says it all really
Report moisok January 2, 2020 4:14 PM GMT
sky were hardly any better
Report Pleasegivemeanailedontip January 2, 2020 6:21 PM GMT
Like most news outlets, they are biased towards clickbait. Somehow issues on the left appeal to everyone (either to reaffirm morals or to reaffirm that the world has gone mad). Nobody clicks stories about someone doing ok and getting on with life. If you want them to stop banging on about minority rights then stop clicking the stories is a good start.

Andrew Neil is the current king of creating clickbait with his pointlessly aggressive interview style so i think that helped boris get the hump with them too.
Report Escapee January 2, 2020 6:31 PM GMT
"Guests on bbc - remain 82 percent  - says it all really"

probably because it is hard to find articulate or intelligent people who still think brexit is a good idea LaughLaughLaughLaugh




82%,  did you make up that figure (a.k.a fake news) or do you have a credible source?
Report sixtwosix January 2, 2020 6:35 PM GMT
QT after the election broadcast a special edition and struggled to get a question from the audience from somebody who had voted Tory .....the night they won the election.

This is a smokescreen from the the lefty seething disgrace that was once the best.
Report Escapee January 2, 2020 6:40 PM GMT
Why did the tories delay brexit for so long ?

after all, they've been in power for 10 years, They've  been at the controls, they could have sorted it sooner if they wanted to.

Cameroony thought brexit was such a great idea, he resigned.

Blaming the lefty morons for the mess the country is in makes about as much sense as blaming the tooth fairy
Report Escapee January 2, 2020 6:44 PM GMT
I came home today, found an 80 year old lady collapsed in the lift.

Phoned an ambulance and they said 2-3 hour wait minimum.



It's all the mad lefties fault, if the tories had been in power for the last 10 years you wouldn't get 80 year old ladies waiting 2-3 hours for an ambulance
Report moisok January 2, 2020 6:45 PM GMT
escapee - you are entering a debate - don't be so lazy  - go and find out for yourself

I would have thought as someone who is on top of this you would already know the facts

the bbc was horrendously biased over this issue
Report Escapee January 2, 2020 6:47 PM GMT
Sounds like you are avoiding saying you made up the 82% number yourself.
Report moisok January 2, 2020 6:49 PM GMT
and so called academics were 3 to 1 in favour of remain  and so it went on

in many 'papers'  evening discussions not only were both guests pro remain they just laughed at brexit along with the presenter

-  not confined to the bbc I might add
Report moisok January 2, 2020 6:50 PM GMT
of course if you threw in the presenters as well you would have had nearer 90 percent or more
Report Cider January 2, 2020 6:51 PM GMT
IEA analysis shows systemic bias against ‘Leave’ supporters on flagship BBC political programmes

Of 281 Question Time panellists over the 18 month period, 60% were Remain supporters, 31% Brexit supporters and the remaining 9% ‘Releavers’.

Of 297 Any Questions panellists in the same period, 59% supported remain, 32% supported Brexit, and 10% were ‘Releavers’.

.https://iea.org.uk/media/iea-analysis-shows-systemic-bias-against-leave-supporters-on-flagship-bbc-political-programmes/
Report Cider January 2, 2020 6:52 PM GMT
The host takes it over 80 ;)
Report Escapee January 2, 2020 6:53 PM GMT
I just googled "Guests on bbc remain 82 percent"

no results lol.

you did make up the number didn't you?


Fake news
Report CLYDEBANK29 January 2, 2020 6:54 PM GMT
Easy to forget most Tory MPs voted for Remain.

The BBC is a left wing organisation making some attempts to uphold it's duty to remain neutral.  Of course it is also even more pro remain.  If you worked at the BBC, not only were you already more likely to be left wing, but you were also more likely to be more articulate and intelligent than the average person, and also more aware of current affairs.  The idiots who claim the BBC is right wing, come from the hostile, socialist workers wing of the party, who are mostly of very low intelligence, with chips on both shoulders.
Report sixtwosix January 2, 2020 6:54 PM GMT
The website had a scare story on the front page every day .....jobs lost , exports lost , expensive holidays ......oxygen running out , sky falling in......
Report CLYDEBANK29 January 2, 2020 6:56 PM GMT
people like Stormzy, Jezza, Dawn Butler and Angela Rayner
Report moisok January 2, 2020 6:57 PM GMT
it is so strange   - they want to fight the battle all over again despite the result ho ho
Report CLYDEBANK29 January 2, 2020 6:58 PM GMT
like I said 626, if you worked at the BBC, you were also more likely to be pro remain, because you were more aware of current affairs.
Report Escapee January 2, 2020 7:00 PM GMT
It's so strange, they won the vote and yet they still want to make up fake newsLaugh
Report sofiakenny January 2, 2020 7:03 PM GMT
If you want fake news just tune in to Kuenssberg.
Report Escapee January 2, 2020 7:04 PM GMT
"like I said 626, if you worked at the BBC, you were also more likely to be pro remain, because you were more aware of current affairs."

They probably have some sort of intelligence test as part of the interview process
Report Escapee January 2, 2020 7:06 PM GMT
"If you want fake news just tune in to Kuenssberg."

No need to look elsewhere sofia, we have moisok and others on here
Report sofiakenny January 2, 2020 7:08 PM GMT
She was so far up Bojo's arris Pesto could see her ankles.
Report Escapee January 2, 2020 7:09 PM GMT
"If you want fake news just tune in to Kuenssberg."

I'm all ears sofia, do you have a credible source for that or are you making it up yourself?
Report sofiakenny January 2, 2020 7:14 PM GMT
reported attack at leeds hopital which was a lie..several days later she said that the postal vote was disastrous for labour(eve of election)
Report sofiakenny January 2, 2020 7:15 PM GMT
Over 50% of people no longer trust the neutrality of the bbc.
Report moisok January 2, 2020 7:24 PM GMT
where do you think a large chunk of the guardian's circulation goes?

such bitterness from remainers - it is quite funny
Report saddo January 2, 2020 7:36 PM GMT
Hopefully those who want to support the BBC will be able to keep it going, though they may have to resort to the begging bowl like the Guardian.
Report sofiakenny January 2, 2020 7:39 PM GMT
Torygraph Scum and express don't need a begging bowl..owned by billionaire right wing coonts.
Report MC Roller January 2, 2020 7:44 PM GMT
Sad news about that old lady having to wait so long for an ambulance. You have to adapt these days. I would have said it was a man in a dress or a refugee, ambulance now arrives in minutes. Sad you have to resort to different methods but you're left with no choice.
Report Hanx January 2, 2020 8:29 PM GMT
In the week following the triggering of Article 50, 124 guests were interviewed for the Today Programme, each of whom spoke against the process. This was in comparison to 6.5%, or 8 people, speaking in favour of Brexit.

- Lord Pearson, News-Watch
Report Escapee January 2, 2020 8:42 PM GMT
In the 3 weeks before the election, The party leaders received multiple invitations to debate against each other and or invited for 1 to 1 in-depth interviews.

The tory party leader only appeared once, all the other 'major' party leaders appeared multiple times.


That is absolute statistical proof of anti-tory TV


or was it because he chose not to debate his policies in front of British voters
Report moisok January 2, 2020 8:49 PM GMT
100 percent there hanx   escapee trying to re fight old battles - you lost and you cannot accept - like the poor you will always be with us  -  eat it up baby  hahahaha
Report moisok January 2, 2020 8:51 PM GMT
sorry 93.5  ho ho  although 112 percent if you throw in the presenters
Report moisok January 2, 2020 8:52 PM GMT
don't laugh at the guardian - they get stacks of contributions from mugs great tactics

their parent company send it abroad  ho ho ho
Report treetop January 2, 2020 9:04 PM GMT
Part of the BBC bias to Remain could well have been the flooding of media releases by pro Remain organisations like the CBI on behalf of multi nationals, civil service wary of the extra work involved and various government Quangos with vested interests.The only organisation out of step was the small business head for CBI, John Longworth and he was forced to resign and campaign outside for Leave. Since many of the BBC reporters stay at their desks taking input fed from such outlets,they may well have believed what they wrote.
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