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Stormzy has said Britain is “definitely, 100%” racist and that this has worsened under Boris Johnson because his comments have emboldened people with racist views.

The grime artist, who has just released his second album, Heavy is the Head, made the comments in an interview with the Italian newspaper La Repubblica. When asked if Britain was still racist, the musician said “definitely, 100%” even if it was “hidden”.
“It’s like: ‘Oh no, we’re not racist’. But there’s a lot of racism in the country,” he said. “The difficult thing with the UK is, as you said, in Italy it’s a clear problem, whereas trying to explain that Britain is a racist country [to a British person] is the most difficult thing ever. They think: ‘No, it’s not. Stormzy you’re successful. Look at London, there’s loads of black people …’ It’s a more difficult case to fight.”

Stormzy said the prime minister was a “figurehead” whose actions had made it more acceptable to say racist things in British society.

“If the top person can openly say this racist thing – the ‘piccaninnies’ remarks, ‘watermelon smiles’, comparing Muslim women to a letter box – if that is our figurehead, the top man, the leader we have to follow, and he openly says these things, he encourages hate among others.” He said since Johnson had been in office the situation had deteriorated, with people who hold racist views feeling emboldened to express them in public. “Before, people had to hide their racism. If you felt something bad about about black people, about Muslims, you had to shut up. Now these people have the confidence to come out in public to say everything. This is scary to me, that scares the sh*t out of me.”

Stormzy, whose real name Michael Ebenazer Kwadjo Omari Owuo, said he would have to carefully consider whether or not he would accept an honour, such as an MBE or OBE, if offered one. He said it would be difficult to accept an honour “because of the British empire”, but that his mother would be proud if he was offered one.  “It’s got a very dark history. You know, Britain colonised everywhere. It’s something I’d look into and decide in case of.”

During his headline Glastonbury set in June, Stormzy wore a stab vest with a union flag on it, designed by Banksy. As he performed the words “knife crime” appeared lit up behind him, and there was an excerpt from a speech by the Labour MP David Lammy on the issue. Lammy tweeted that Stormzy had used the performance to “speak out about the injustice of young black kids being criminalised”

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By:
casemoney
When: 21 Dec 19 01:43
When is he Leaving ? Tell him to take his Vest with him ...

BTW he was stabbed when he was younger , Was it a white person carried out the Attack ?
By:
casemoney
When: 21 Dec 19 01:46
“definitely, 100%”  Is he saying everyone  is Racist or Just whites, If referring to others as well I agree with him .Grin
By:
lybertyne
When: 21 Dec 19 02:51
He was in a primary school the other day, telling young children that Boris "...is a very, very bad man."  He's another one who hates the natives and hates our history but is quite happy to take the quality lifestyle that living here enables him to have.  Cretin.
By:
stewardsenquirey
When: 21 Dec 19 03:33
Bit like AJ.
Stormzy has worked out (or his PR team) fastest way to cash.
By:
Crisp77
When: 21 Dec 19 06:30
Thinly veiled going to be in the New Years Honours list
By:
impossible123
When: 21 Dec 19 07:43
With due respect to Stormzy (I do not know who he is but for header) I'd like to think I'm better read and have lived longer and possessed more experience in life and work than him, if the music industry is what he excels in (only). As such, his opinions are his own similarly mine - we'll agree to disagree, if so. However, if he wants a debate I'm more than willing.

I'm afraid the country that does the most to encourage a multicultural society as well as lauded for its welfare responsibility towards its less able or disadvantaged citizens is also more likely to be taken advantage of, and hospitality abused. Otherwise why are foreign nationals risk their lives trying to enter the country illegally? Why not to Germany, France, any other EU country or the USA, Japan, Singapore, China, etc?

Could anyone name me one country in the world that offers free health care, free movement, free speech, unemployment benefit, subsidised housing, state pension, etc, to the less able, disadvantaged and unemployed? And, until recently The UK had one of the most amenable immigration policy in the world, I firmly believe.
By:
doridoru
When: 21 Dec 19 08:31
hes a cockwomble
By:
Injera
When: 21 Dec 19 09:37
Labour MP David Lammy on the issue. Lammy tweeted that Stormzy had used the performance to “speak out about the injustice of young black kids being criminalised”

A agree with Lammy. I think it's terrible that the bruvvers get a criminal record for stabbing each other...
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 21 Dec 19 09:43
self righteous hypocrite
By:
stewarts rise
When: 21 Dec 19 10:11
Sounds as if his mother has a lot more sense than him, if he thinks Britain is 100% racist perhaps he'd like to try and peddle his wares over in Russia or somewhere else that is really nationalistic.
Does he not know that a lot of racism in Britain is between Blacks and Asians or doesn't that count.
By:
detraveller
When: 21 Dec 19 10:16
I'm afraid the country that does the most to encourage a multicultural society as well as lauded for its welfare responsibility towards its less able or disadvantaged citizens is also more likely to be taken advantage of, and hospitality abused. Otherwise why are foreign nationals risk their lives trying to enter the country illegally? Why not to Germany, France, any other EU country or the USA, Japan, Singapore, China, etc?

Sorry but you can't possibly be more hospitable than Germany. And arguably even France. I know you want to think that way but you are not. And your question is invalid because more illegal migrants come to Germany than UK.

You also need to consider that having a shet border force who can't even stop inflated boats from entering the country does not translate to a hospitable population. You take in more migrants because you can't stop them from coming. Yes a lot of people prefer UK over Germany and France but there are very good reasons for that. Language, a well established black economy, colonial history helping in long term settlement etc. Nothing to do with hospitality. Though you have every right to assume that if it makes you feel good.
By:
pumphol.
When: 21 Dec 19 10:18
Perhaps when he does Glastonbury again  he can get banksy to make him a 20 foot chip dripping with tomato sauce hanging behind him while he does his performance.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 21 Dec 19 10:19
You have to travel across the sea to Blighty
By:
detraveller
When: 21 Dec 19 10:20
Stormzy sounds like your average migrant. Call out racism and play the colonial victim card.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 21 Dec 19 10:23
A difference between Boris Johnson and Stormzy, is that Boris wouldn't lower himself to say what a very bad man Sormzy was at primary schools.
By:
pumphol.
When: 21 Dec 19 10:25
Moaning about Boris but nothing about the the racists over at the militant labour party.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 21 Dec 19 10:27
I'd go odds on Stormzy is more racist than Boris
By:
ZEALOT
When: 21 Dec 19 10:43
Also known for his outspoken comments on UK politics, Stormzy endorsed Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn in 2016. On 21 February 2018, he performed a freestyle at the 2018 Brit Awards, calling out Theresa May for her perceived inaction in the aftermath of the Grenfell Tower fire the previous year.[10] Stormzy encouraged the audience at the 2019 Glastonbury Festival to join him in chanting "**** the Government and **** Boris"—the latter a reference to former London Mayor Boris Johnson's Conservative Party leadership campaign.[11]
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 21 Dec 19 10:48
A racist, rude, noisy and aggressive indivdual of very limited wisdom and intelligence
By:
impossible123
When: 21 Dec 19 10:48
Strange, is it not, after taking all factors into consideration more illegal immigrants still choose to cross the channel to come to The UK. It cannot be just the language or reasons postulated as some entrenched here (legals and illegals) still prefer not to speak English. I think it is because the UK authorities are less stringent and/or willing to carry out status verification eg immigration checks when stopped (vehicle/etc), at work, a situation, accessing free health or benefit, etc?

I believe as they are more immigrants in The UK (legals and illegals) it is much easier to blend in without arousing speculation/suspicion from authorities.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 21 Dec 19 10:57
I believe in a zero tolerance approach to illegal immigration.  It's in no one's interests.  Often the immigrants get scammed and abused.  We have a natural defence as we are an island.  If we are going to be economically poorer by leaving the EU, at least let's ensure we have the main benefit, which is a less crowded country and lower demand for limited housing.
By:
paulypaul
When: 21 Dec 19 10:58
Less of a Stormzy.. more of a breezy or even a weezy (US rapper), see what I did there? yeah that was easy..
Stormzy in a teacup..Let's have a keesup, so squeezup and ease up cos he needs to shut up..
Chip on shoulder...let him smoulder cos I'm getting older and it's getting colder

Thank you, I'll get me coat. Do I earn a million quid for that? Grin
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 21 Dec 19 11:03
He's after cheap publicity to promote his new album, and it looks like he's got it.

It might even get him on Question Time with the BBC.

I'd be surprised if his comments were spontaneous, far more likely to be well prepared for maximum impact.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 21 Dec 19 11:04
In Corbyn and Stormzy's socialist utopia of Venezuala you'll earn a million.  You'd probably be better off with an arsenal of automated guns there though.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 21 Dec 19 11:06
Why does he hate Boris ?

Has he given any real answers.
By:
BennyBinion1
When: 21 Dec 19 11:06
The racist fool is reading from the bible on the BBC on Christmas Day!
By:
stewarts rise
When: 21 Dec 19 11:07
Never be a hit, if you wanna be a rapper you have to use words like, bitch, shank, respect, knife, piece.
Probably plenty of other bangin words that i don't know!
By:
sixtwosix
When: 21 Dec 19 11:08
And no doubt that is why so many millions of non caucasians are crossing country adter sanctuary after country to reach our island.

It is out own fault for looking at the media and their loathing and bias of this wonderful country.
By:
stewarts rise
When: 21 Dec 19 11:09
Replying to paulypaul!^^^^^
By:
impossible123
When: 21 Dec 19 11:09
I'm all for political immigrants (not economic) esp the very young ones - it's no fault of their own - from war-torn countries or repression; pure economic ones ought to be turned away or expel immediately and consideration only commence post this thro' the proper channel and criteria.

Maybe adopt a system that is presently operating in Australia eg send illegal immigrants to another island (nearby) whilst their immigration status are being processed.

Maybe 'Stormzy' could consider relocating (assuming The UK is his official place of abode) to Venezuela, Russia, China, Germany, France or even Brazil or anywhere less "racist" in his opinion. I'm sure most of us would welcome his decision.
By:
paulypaul
When: 21 Dec 19 11:16
@ Stewarts, stewart, my f*ckin' homie, dis was just my ****' first try. Yo' got dat? Wink
By:
paulypaul
When: 21 Dec 19 11:23
When one pops it into this Ganster translator (https://lingojam.com/GangsterTalkTranslator) it comes out as..

Less o' a stormzy.. mo' o' a breezy or even a weezy (US rapper), peep What the f*ck i did there? yeah biatch dat was easy..
stormzy in a teacup..Letz have a keesup, so squeezup n' ease the f*ck up cos dude needs ta shut the f*ck up..
chip on shoulda...let his ass smoulda cos i'm gettin' olda n' dat shitz gettin' colda

Hours of fun...Impossible 123 here you go..

I'm all fo' political immigrants (not economic) esp tha very young ones - dat shitz no fault o' their muthaf*ckin' own - from war-torn countries or repression; pure economic ones ought ta be turned away or expel immediately n' consideration only commence post dis thro' tha propa channel n' criterizzle.

maybe adopt a system dat be presently operatin' in australizzle eg send illegal immigrants ta anotha island (nearby) whilst their muthaf*ckin' immigration status r' bein' processed.

maybe 'stormzy' could consida relocatin' (assumin' da uk be his muthaf*ckin' official place o' abode) ta venezuela, russia, china, germany, france or even brazil or anywhere less "racist" in his muth*****' opinion. I'm shizzle most o' us would welcome his muthaf*ckin' decision.
By:
paulypaul
When: 21 Dec 19 11:23
When one pops it into this Ganster translator (https://lingojam.com/GangsterTalkTranslator) it comes out as..

Less o' a stormzy.. mo' o' a breezy or even a weezy (US rapper), peep What the f*ck i did there? yeah biatch dat was easy..
stormzy in a teacup..Letz have a keesup, so squeezup n' ease the f*ck up cos dude needs ta shut the f*ck up..
chip on shoulda...let his ass smoulda cos i'm gettin' olda n' dat shitz gettin' colda

Hours of fun...Impossible 123 here you go..

I'm all fo' political immigrants (not economic) esp tha very young ones - dat shitz no fault o' their muthaf*ckin' own - from war-torn countries or repression; pure economic ones ought ta be turned away or expel immediately n' consideration only commence post dis thro' tha propa channel n' criterizzle.

maybe adopt a system dat be presently operatin' in australizzle eg send illegal immigrants ta anotha island (nearby) whilst their muthaf*ckin' immigration status r' bein' processed.

maybe 'stormzy' could consida relocatin' (assumin' da uk be his muthaf*ckin' official place o' abode) ta venezuela, russia, china, germany, france or even brazil or anywhere less "racist" in his muth*****' opinion. I'm shizzle most o' us would welcome his muthaf*ckin' decision.
By:
detraveller
When: 21 Dec 19 11:28

Dec 21, 2019 -- 10:48AM, impossible123 wrote:


Strange, is it not, after taking all factors into consideration more illegal immigrants still choose to cross the channel to come to The UK. It cannot be just the language or reasons postulated as some entrenched here (legals and illegals) still prefer not to speak English. I think it is because the UK authorities are less stringent and/or willing to carry out status verification eg immigration checks when stopped (vehicle/etc), at work, a situation, accessing free health or benefit, etc? I believe as they are more immigrants in The UK (legals and illegals) it is much easier to blend in without arousing speculation/suspicion from authorities.


Over the years I have mentioned various stories of the authorities in UK turning a blind eye to people coming in through the channel as well as going out. As far as I know this hasn't changed even today. Since most of these refugees seem to be from south asia, particularly pakistan, blending in is much easier in UK than in Germany or France. And with the strength of the population you have there in UK, it is usually someone in the UK calling his cousins to come over for the free money, hence the need to travel all the way to the UK, crossing the sea, when Western European countries are much easier to access.

I have been saying from day one, back when I was myself working at the border, that people need to hold their own politicians accountable. That hasn't happened, with both UK and Germany selecting the same governments again that were responsible for the whole disaster. You can talk all about how pathetic these economic migrants are, doesn't change a thing. You're just complaining inside a bubble.

By:
Dr Crippen
When: 21 Dec 19 12:06
Why does he hate Boris ?

Has he given any real answers.


That's for his fans, they'll be mostly poor kids who been indoctrinated to hate the Tories.
If the truth's known he probably votes Tory himself. Rich people tent to vote Tory in order to safeguard their fortunes.

A hypocrite of the highest kind, which shows how easy it is to fool children and the feeble minded followers of his brand of music.
By:
Platini
When: 21 Dec 19 12:06
Deluded mug.

As long as privileged hypocrites like him keep playing identity politics and supporting new Labour, that rancid lot will never get back in power.
Keep on digging your grave, mug Cool
By:
acey deucy
When: 21 Dec 19 13:07
Another Superstar with a chip on his shoulder.
By:
flushgordon1
When: 21 Dec 19 13:11
Windy  juan Kerr
By:
macarony
When: 21 Dec 19 13:21
The black Lily Allen
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