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By the time of the next election only one Labour leader will have won an election for 50 years - Tony Blair. 50 years! And only one winning leader!
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How depressing in our 2 party system.
 'he couldn't lead the working class out of a paper bag' that quip from a moderate says it all. They just don't listen or get it. |
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That is an Incredible and Shocking fact , Obviously with the Blair terms it does not seem that obvious ...
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case we don't have a credible opposition, it was an open goal and the useless coooonts were to busy waving to the minority fanboys in the stand. FFS
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BLAIR was NOT really Labour, though - was he.
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Thatchers 'love child'
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Labour ended up having a red red whine at Corbyn
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Did not Thatcher reply when asked what is your greatest achievement she said Tony Blair
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To be fair she could hardly have said John Major.
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Great thread with good hearted humour.
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Edwina's sloppy 2nds
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sad but true, I could never countenance stirring another guys porridge.  I was a bit taken aback when I first heard that, but it seems appropiate, If I'm wromg then apologies. |
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Harold Wilson was great - born winner who was very funny in the process
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Campbell was on the Beeb and Lansman was there too
He ripped Lansman a second hole, but Lansman doubled down on ALL the policies and just blamed Brexit etc They are going nowhere with Momentum, which is kind of ironic  |
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juce, we are badly served, I just voted for the least worse option, but here is my most worrying concern. An 18-22 year old leaving school or biased uni, with no life or working experience, just wants to save the planet, save the flowers etc, with only complaints and not viable solutions. Any one can moan (Cue Jezza) but not offer a viable solution, and they have the same voting rights as me!!
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John Smith was a decent man and left us too soon..
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John Smith would have made a good PM of the country but for his sad demise
Harold Wilson was a canny operator ... he understood the difficulties of the day when the unions had so much influence but he could play them to his advantage which bearing in mind the difficulties of the times was no mean feat |
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Absolutely, Geordie - canny operator!
Someone threw a pamphlet at the podium when he was speaking at a Labour rally and narrowly missed him. Quick as Flash, Wilson replies something along of the lines of, 'My friend, your aim is as wayward as your material!' |
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Great stuff. |
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How Wilson managed to keep the party together for so long with its competing factions was his greatest success imo. The likes of Roy Jenkins and James Callaghan on one side whilst placating Benn, Foot and Healey on the other was, as you say, no mean feat although I think Healey moved more to the centre as he got older.
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Lyndon Johnson wanted Wilson's support for Vietnam. He said no.
Fast forward to Bush and Blair with Iraq... |
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It seems to me that the labour mp's that I have heard being interviewed post election,are blaming everyone except their own party for the defeat, and therein lies one of their problems.
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Yes, Injera. I think there is a quote where he said mentioning fighting battles at the despatch box and not on the field of war. I'll try and find it.
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it's heart warming to find I'm not alone. thanks guys.
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Mummysmentum and rich boy lansman have a lot to answer for. The party has had its head turned towards sectional/diverse interests instead of concentrating on the main electorate. I have been roundly thrashed for saying this all year.
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Two war crims-what a honour you share Ali boy.
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Give it a decade or two and the demographic shift will render the Tories obsolete.
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I love this term. It came up in the campaign to get Ali millani elected.(a well known local lad) It was cited as the reason why he would crush Johnson with the student vote and hundreds of mummysmentum brown shirts swamping the area. In fact they actually intimidated and upset some of the electorate. Apparently the demographic shift (although large) did not seem to sway it. Are we saying the demographic voters voted for Johnson. How dare they!!
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intimidated and upset some of the electorate
This was a feature of the Labour campaign here in Chipping Barnet; good cop/bad cop activists, the latter resorting to bullying and intimidation. They got their answer on Friday morning; we won't be cowed! |
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I have to confess that trick the millennials did in hacking down Dennis Skinner's long political career of fighting for the working class was lost on me....like some sort of Obi-Wan Jedi trick perhaps where they commit suicide to become even more powerful?
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You can trace it back to Gordon Brown's "bigoted woman" comments. Since then, Labour have been on a self-harming path, driven by a dangerous ideology which they've tried to dress up as "progressive" policies. Unfortunately for them, and luckily for this country, the majority of normal folk can see right through their faux compassion, and have rejected them time and time again.
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All is not lost. The police just been welcoming and unloading 20 plus voters from the back of a lorry.
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And this behaviour transcends politics. Whilst I emphasize it was not politically motivated, look at the incident last week when a Tory activist was standing outside High Barnet tube and had substance thrown in their face! Fortunately the substance did not harm the person but look at the risk someone runs when they are just trying to canvass.
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yeah and the 2 Labour canvassers attacked both in their 70s 2 weeks ago , not much in the news about that probably brave patriots who assaulted them maybe
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Disgraceful, Anxious!
I thought Helmut Kohl and John Prescott had the right idea when dealing with people like that. |
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yep give them a Glasgow Kiss
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EvgenyKissin14 Dec 19 11:28Joined: 24 Jun 11 | Topic/replies: 3,902 | Blogger: EvgenyKissin's blog
How Wilson managed to keep the party together for so long with its competing factions was his greatest success imo. The likes of Roy Jenkins and James Callaghan on one side whilst placating Benn, Foot and Healey on the other was, as you say, no mean feat although I think Healey moved more to the centre as he got older. His eyebrows certainly did! As for Wilson, he was just a figment of peoples imagination, the actual prime minister was Mike Yarwood! |
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Stewarts
"And I said this and the Brighton Conference!" (pipe out of mouth, eyes looking up at the ceiling whilst blinking profusely)!Loved Mike Yarwood's impressions! |