Chit Chat
He’s the only one I can think of who might challenge Boris. Andy Burnham perhaps?
If they pick an idiot like Thornberry or Raynor or Lammy then they will lose by even more next time.
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What if a safe seat stood down for him?
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Why not?
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He's been ordained.
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Smitcha?
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He'd be my choice. The unions went with Ed last time and that went to s hit. Then like a Martingale system Labour proceeded to chase their loses by doubling up on loony policy eachtime, only to keep losing.
Now the central Labour voters just are just voting tory instead....so that didnt work did it? When I look at the array of momentum backed candidates now all I see is inexperienced 'bash street kids' who have idealistic visions of a fairytale land, that nobody will vote in....and even by the grace of god it managed once to be voted in it would collapse because nothing in life is free....and having a unilateral socialist state would just get picked off within a capitalist larger international environment. |
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Yes agree the Only hope for the Party , have a good clear out of the rancid front bench
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you fail to see it - all your reactionary freaks!!
once all us old 'uns die off# the 20 year olds can have it and very welcome they are too ho ho |
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your big problem is rich boy lansman and his cronies on the NEC - what an arrogant twt he is too
wot did he say voters will have to change their attitude or some other such creepy 're-education camp' style rhetoric we all know where he is coming from their whilst he sips at his latest from his huge cellar of wine can't have the plebs thinking the wrong way two legs bad four legs good ....two legs good four legs -thickos |
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Just like his brother - Milliband would go down like a lead balloon - anywhere north of Watford.
Same result, therefore. |
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Maybe the Labour Party could buy Bojo (like a footballer) to lead them in the next election. I'm sure Momentum and Unions will pay mega bucks for him; he's kudos and proven form, just a bit disingenuous at times something Labour are use to.
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this election was all about Brexit - nothing else. in 5 years time all the white working class seats the Tories won will go back to Labour.
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He has a nice sinecure on a massive salary so why would he give that up to lead
a fractured Labour party? |
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65/1 ...was 13/1 on here in 2016
 27-Jun-16 12:48:38 UK - Party Leaders David Miliband - Next Labour Leader Matched: 27-Jun-16 12:48:39 Back 13.00 |
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Fair play anxious, great comeback.
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anxious I dearly want labour to rebuild a once fantastic party that's been hijacked by out of date commies, we now have proof of the damage they have done. Corbyn doesn't care about party or country by saying he will stay to (select) see a new leader in, as dusty has said to keep the momentum exremists in control, without change Labour will perish.
Without change they derserve to. |
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I must apologise for my intolerance, I am just sick to the back teeth of Jezza, Diane,
and Mac, their supporters have destroyed Labour when we need them most. |
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you are entitled to your opinion foxy , my beliefs have not changed despite what happened , of course you have to look at where mistakes have been made , but the struggle never ends
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Of course, but please appeal to the many not the few. if not in power or a credible opposition they are impotent and have no reason to exist.
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Interestingly David Milliband has not been tweeting about his day job today, just the election result.
Corbyn and Corbynism abandoned Labour voters long before they abandoned him. They were literally repelled by a program that could not be delivered and leader who could not be trusted. Everything else is denial. D Milliband 13/12/2019 My instinct is he would come back now. He is innately liked and was trending for a long time just after the exit poll. When English rose Rachel Riley did her interview with Alastair Campbell where she was hanging Labour and Corbyn out to dry for anti-semitism, Campbell kept on at her about were there any circumstances she could be convinced to vole labour again. Her answer was 'I liked David Milliband' |
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Interesting, Journeyman.
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I think he'll be quietly ruminating about things over a latte tonight BTF.
By the way I noticed the post above that you highlighted as 'post of the day' mentioned the martingale system. Hoping that's not a subconscious association  |
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David Miliband would have a reasonable chance at the next election.
Many staunch Conservatives like myself would view a Milliband victory as just about tolerable. We wouldn’t like it much, but at least consider him a credible leader of the country. That style of politician alone (palatable to a wide spectrum of the electorate) offers Labour any chance at all in the near future. |
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Yes i bet you would because his policies would be hardly any different than the tories
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Put in a lightweight (metaphorically speaking) like Thornberry and the party is doomed to failure.
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i agree with that but its not a beauty contest is it , its about policies isnt it , anyway the reality is that in this system governments are told what to do by the banks , the media and the ruling class
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PLus of course very rich billionaires
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The Glazier's
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If Labour (read Momentum) selects the next leader from exactly the same socialist strain as Corbyn they will lose again in 2024. It is as simple as that.
If folks like you are content to remain in militant opposition forever, Mr A, then that’s fine by me. At some point, however, it must be good for the country if Labour actually represented a viable choice for government. |
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But why would i support something i dont believe in , ok so yes we can tolerate blair he done some good things but turned into an unmitigated disaster, so do you want a real choice or just the same old thing over and over again , anyway real change always happens outside parliament if wasnt for the trade unions kids and people would still be working 12 hours a day up chimmneys
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Do you think bosses woke up one day and said lets give these workers holidays , sick pay , maternity pay , rights to join a union , none of these things were given they were fought for with bitter resistance
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Physical exertion is character building. As a child I chased our kitchen maids around the estate every morning.
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clkass., |
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Class*
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yes very funny but you must see my point , nothing is ever given to workers or the poor it has to be fought for and the rich and the ruling class only do this very reluctantly
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Good evening, Mr B. :)
Ana was my favourite, a raven-haired gypsy girl from some god forsaken place in Romania. |
