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Anyone who can confidently predict the outcome of Tursday's election is a prize bul$h1tt3r IMO, however I think Labour have given themselves a chance of a surprise victory when people walk into the polling booths.
Give a load of freebies to the middle class social justice warriors that now comprise their core voters - abolish tuition fees and re-instll student grants (£13.6bn), £12bn to WASPI women, cheaper travel on nationalised trains (likely to be of most help to people on higher earnings and those in the South East, since they are much more likely to travel by train) and free broadband for the millions of households who can comfortably afford to pay for it already.
Do all this AND convince these middle-class virtue signallers they're going to help the impoverished, providing a solid buttress to their sense of worthiness. Jesus what a potent message...... right up to the point when the uber-wealthy do the old Cayman Islands switcheroo, the poor go 'Where's all our free stuff? Can't pay - won't pay!' and it's a case of McDonnell's car battery, Corbyn's jump leads, your scr0ta1 sack.
I'm actually not joking with the core message here.
Nothing works better than 'free'. It's like a political DFS ad and before anyone gets sniffy about that, they've been in business years, their core 'sell' never changes - they must be doing something right.
Nobody makes the mental jump to correctly decode this as 'taxpayer funded'. Promise loads of free stuff to a demographic that a) will vote and b) see themselves as compassionate and caring and not 'nasty Tories' and wait to see what the electorate go with
Like their anti-semitism and it's appeal to 2.5 million Muslim voters vs 10th of that representing Jewish voters, this is a cold-eyed, hard-headed political decision to appeal to groups that will deliver the most votes to them.
Give a load of freebies to the middle class social justice warriors that now comprise their core voters - abolish tuition fees and re-instll student grants (£13.6bn), £12bn to WASPI women, cheaper travel on nationalised trains (likely to be of most help to people on higher earnings and those in the South East, since they are much more likely to travel by train) and free broadband for the millions of households who can comfortably afford to pay for it already.
Do all this AND convince these middle-class virtue signallers they're going to help the impoverished, providing a solid buttress to their sense of worthiness. Jesus what a potent message...... right up to the point when the uber-wealthy do the old Cayman Islands switcheroo, the poor go 'Where's all our free stuff? Can't pay - won't pay!' and it's a case of McDonnell's car battery, Corbyn's jump leads, your scr0ta1 sack.
I'm actually not joking with the core message here.
Nothing works better than 'free'. It's like a political DFS ad and before anyone gets sniffy about that, they've been in business years, their core 'sell' never changes - they must be doing something right.
Nobody makes the mental jump to correctly decode this as 'taxpayer funded'. Promise loads of free stuff to a demographic that a) will vote and b) see themselves as compassionate and caring and not 'nasty Tories' and wait to see what the electorate go with
Like their anti-semitism and it's appeal to 2.5 million Muslim voters vs 10th of that representing Jewish voters, this is a cold-eyed, hard-headed political decision to appeal to groups that will deliver the most votes to them.
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Looking forward to your similarly lengthy and acerbic critique of the Tory manifesto, their pledges of freebies, all those hospitals for free etc.
Labour have found themselves in the position that the Liberals have enjoyed for so long with regard to general elections.
They can promise anything they like, with only a small risk of being elected and having to carry it out.
So their manifesto this time, and the same as it was at the last general election, is worthless.
They can promise anything they like, with only a small risk of being elected and having to carry it out.
So their manifesto this time, and the same as it was at the last general election, is worthless.
They're 'nasty Tories' though.
They've tried playing the NHS Poker game' ('I'll see your £5bn and raise you eleventy gazillion') and lost. All they can do is hope that 'we're loosening the purse strings a bit but in a slightly more responsible way' message gets across.
.....becasuse (FWIW IMO) this 'Get Brexit Done' schtik is this election's 'Strong and Stable'.
Johnson was supposed to be this visionary, nroad-brush, great orator, firing up folks whilst devolving the 'detail' to the spreadsheet twonks.
Well - where is he then?
Hiding from the public and doing a broken ecord impersonation.
I *think* the Conservatives might just fall over the line come Friday morning but Labour have given themselves the best opportunity of defeating them with their flinty-eyed and cynical tectic outlined in my OP, coupled with the Tories once agian relying on a phatic phrese and 'we're not Jeremy Corbyn' - a crass line of attack for me.
They've tried playing the NHS Poker game' ('I'll see your £5bn and raise you eleventy gazillion') and lost. All they can do is hope that 'we're loosening the purse strings a bit but in a slightly more responsible way' message gets across.
.....becasuse (FWIW IMO) this 'Get Brexit Done' schtik is this election's 'Strong and Stable'.
Johnson was supposed to be this visionary, nroad-brush, great orator, firing up folks whilst devolving the 'detail' to the spreadsheet twonks.
Well - where is he then?
Hiding from the public and doing a broken ecord impersonation.
I *think* the Conservatives might just fall over the line come Friday morning but Labour have given themselves the best opportunity of defeating them with their flinty-eyed and cynical tectic outlined in my OP, coupled with the Tories once agian relying on a phatic phrese and 'we're not Jeremy Corbyn' - a crass line of attack for me.
cheaper travel on nationalised trains
It's so easy to say things like that, but very expensive to accomplish.
When the reality is that they could slash fares easily through simple subsidies like they get on the continent.
Scroll down to the bar graph on subsidies here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_transport_in_Great_Britain
It's so easy to say things like that, but very expensive to accomplish.
When the reality is that they could slash fares easily through simple subsidies like they get on the continent.
Scroll down to the bar graph on subsidies here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_transport_in_Great_Britain
Sure Dr Crippen - but who bothers to look beyond the 'free' advertising sizzle?
Nationalisation also comes fraught with difficulties under EU law too - the EU that many of the shadow front bench ar still wedded to, if you can find Emily Thornberry and Keir Starmer anywhere in this election campaign to ask them how this is all going to work in their Brave (Old) World.
Nationalisation also comes fraught with difficulties under EU law too - the EU that many of the shadow front bench ar still wedded to, if you can find Emily Thornberry and Keir Starmer anywhere in this election campaign to ask them how this is all going to work in their Brave (Old) World.
If labour get power then it will be through a coalition,then they’ll use pressure from other parties to explain why they can’t deliver most of the ‘free’ stuff just like the lib dums did with student loans.would almost be worth the pain to watch McDonnell & co trying to smarm their way out of their pledges.
I wish jeremy had left it at nationalisation of the railways. Remember when he first suggested ages ago. The polls showed good approval and now they want to nationalise everything - BIG BLUNDER!!
When I argue with a very good friend over it - he comes back with 'I REMEMBER IT UNDER BR!!' He had a couple of run ins with them over delivery of expensive machinery etc etc. So!!!
I am not sure, but have we ever had an integrated transport policy. Not one that decided to put everything on the road
like mr marples thought ho ho Marples Ridgeway anyone - and the M1 building show!!
When I argue with a very good friend over it - he comes back with 'I REMEMBER IT UNDER BR!!' He had a couple of run ins with them over delivery of expensive machinery etc etc. So!!!
I am not sure, but have we ever had an integrated transport policy. Not one that decided to put everything on the road
like mr marples thought ho ho Marples Ridgeway anyone - and the M1 building show!!
Fwiw, I am incomplete agreement with Hanx with all his points on this thread. They have promised so much to so many, I'm sure plenty will take the bait. Boris hasn't attacked this campaign with the dynamism we were expecting. The get brexit done/strong and stable comparison is spot on. Just like May, spouting the same wherever he goes. He needs to step up last couple of days of campaign.
Tory lead halved according to latest, final, YouGov poll
This despite Corbyn's personal ratings beinglower than a snakes belly.
Yes some of this can be put down to (IMO) Boris and his curiously lacklustre, engergyless and cowardly campaign but also it has to be down to the free stuff the middle classes are going to get under a Labour government / led coalition.
Seamus Milne and Momentum have played an absolute blinder with a pretty ccr@p hand - trouble is they might wake up on Friday and find they have to deliver on it.
This despite Corbyn's personal ratings beinglower than a snakes belly.
Yes some of this can be put down to (IMO) Boris and his curiously lacklustre, engergyless and cowardly campaign but also it has to be down to the free stuff the middle classes are going to get under a Labour government / led coalition.
Seamus Milne and Momentum have played an absolute blinder with a pretty ccr@p hand - trouble is they might wake up on Friday and find they have to deliver on it.
can either party deliver on what they have promised to spend,they are both saying they are going to have a deficit and talk as if the national debt has disappeared
It was pointed out several times in the past few weeks, that in the last two days
Tory press would deliberately hype a narrowing in polls, predict the possibility of a hung parliament, etc.
to scare and panic those extra relaxed, in-the-bag Tory voters into getting out there tomorrow.
And so it goes........the more right wing the media, the more the (false) panic is occuring
Tory press would deliberately hype a narrowing in polls, predict the possibility of a hung parliament, etc.
to scare and panic those extra relaxed, in-the-bag Tory voters into getting out there tomorrow.
And so it goes........the more right wing the media, the more the (false) panic is occuring
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