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By:
grappler
When: 29 Nov 19 20:31
etraveller Joined: 18 Nov 15
Replies: 2567129 Nov 19 20:11 
'So why is it that the measures taken after the last such attack couldn't prevent this happening?

And what measures were taken today that make you feel this won't happen again?'

it is the fault of the security services? what could they do? if you wanted to stop loons intent on murder you would have to indulge in racial profiling that resulted in internment and that will never be allowed.

i could think of some measures that would reduce the likelihood of this happening, but they are less likely to be enacted than the religion of peace becoming the religion of progress
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 29 Nov 19 20:31
Not to sound "racist" but your average white bloke is a lot more rageful and intelligent than the average muslim bloke

the white man will know where to hit society the hardest, the system itself
By:
saddo
When: 29 Nov 19 20:33
I don't think for a minute that this man killed because he secretly want to be like your everyday person who has a job, a wife/husband, kids etc. II think he wanted to kill non Muslims because he hates them.
By:
grappler
When: 29 Nov 19 20:34
^you cannot be a 'white man'
By:
doridoru
When: 29 Nov 19 20:39
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_siege

A lot of you won't know about this one, its how low they will go...Islam is the predominant religion in Chechnya, practiced by 95% of those polled in Grozny in 2010.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 29 Nov 19 20:40

Nov 29, 2019 -- 8:33PM, saddo wrote:


I don't think for a minute that this man killed because he secretly want to be like your everyday person who has a job, a wife/husband, kids etc. II think he wanted to kill non Muslims because he hates them.


Everyone wants to be accepted, saddo

But they aren't sociable, they are awkward individuals who have shut themselves of for far to long sadly, people will find them weird/odd

Its when it gets to the "nothing to lose" stage that they become a pain in the backside

By:
doridoru
When: 29 Nov 19 20:41
"The hostage-takers were the Riyad-us Saliheen, sent by the Chechen warlord Shamil Basayev, who demanded recognition of the independence of Chechnya, and Russian withdrawal from Chechnya. On the third day of the standoff, Russian security forces stormed the building with the use of tanks, incendiary rockets and other heavy weapons.[7] As of December 2006, 334 people (excluding terrorists) were killed,[1] including 186 children.[8]"
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 29 Nov 19 20:43
When they start blowing up railway tracks etc is when people might start realising they should have been more friendly towards them

Its only a matter of time before one bright lone whack realises the damage he can cause by taking out the railway service for the week
By:
doridoru
When: 29 Nov 19 20:44

Nov 29, 2019 -- 8:43PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:


When they start blowing up railway tracks etc is when people might start realising they should have been more friendly towards them Its only a matter of time before one bright lone whack realises the damage he can cause by taking out the railway service for the week


Exactly a golf course near here has the high speed train to Leeds right there, at night total darkness no cameras...im afraid something big will be on the horizon.

I'm off round Doncaster pubs tomorrow afternoon, they wouldn't dare go there tho lol

By:
doridoru
When: 29 Nov 19 20:45
Leeds Arena next Saturday tho, Shed Seven, 12,000 90% middle aged white blokes, oh oh !
By:
detraveller
When: 29 Nov 19 20:52
The way I see it, people have made their mind where the problem lies and the politicians, by not addressing those issues, have convinced the people that they are right.

The day you hold a policy maker responsible, will be the day you can expect some improvement.

Otherwise, you're all gonna throw labels around when this happens again, blame some politicians, curse Islam, convince each other how bad it is and then move on after a few days.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 29 Nov 19 20:54

Nov 29, 2019 -- 8:44PM, doridoru wrote:


Nov 29, 2019 --  8:43PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:When they start blowing up railway tracks etc is when people might start realising they should have been more friendly towards them Its only a matter of time before one bright lone whack realises the damage he can cause by taking out the railway service for the weekExactly a golf course near here has the high speed train to Leeds right there, at night total darkness no cameras...im afraid something big will be on the horizon.I'm off round Doncaster pubs tomorrow afternoon, they wouldn't dare go there tho lol


This is my point though doridoru

The lone whack is more dangerous than a pub full of egotistical men

People underestimate the loner, yes depressed and fed up they are no danger to anyone, but what if they become liberated and realise their potential for destruction?

By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 29 Nov 19 20:57
BBC reporting at its finest.

BBC journalist John McManus, who was at the scene as it unfolded, said he had seen a struggle on the bridge, with several men restraining one man. Police then arrived quickly and a number of shots were fired at him, he said.

In footage shared on social media, the man could be seen being pinned down by members of the public. Another man in a suit could be seen running from him, having apparently retrieved a large knife.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 29 Nov 19 20:58
All it takes is to blow up a piece of railway track CrazyCrazy

And it brings the whole of say the midlands to a standstill

I don't think people realise how fragile their social construct is, all it takes is one to realise this and have the skills necessary to pull it off
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 29 Nov 19 20:59
You could go further and stop oil tankers from docking

No fuel CrazyCrazy
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 29 Nov 19 21:00
Oil ships I should say
By:
grappler
When: 29 Nov 19 21:12
'address issues' indeed. every country in the world with an islamic population has to suffer. and many that dont. the 'policy makers' in sweden must wonder why their citizens were brutally slaughtered, as must those in australia, germany, holland, belgium, spain, turkey, france, denmark, russia, morocco, nigeria, tunisia, lybia, egypt, israel, lebanon, kenya, philippines, indonesia, india, algeria and allah knows there are others, but they are just off the top of me head. im sure there are plenty more

despite this stupefying slaughter of innocents, it is important to remember that it has nothing to do with islam.
By:
saddo
When: 29 Nov 19 21:18
An oil tanker would not cause as much publicity and slaughter as a bomb on one of those many unsearched trucks on a cross channel ferry.
By:
dr . atkins
When: 29 Nov 19 21:18
the coward attacked women in a restaurant
By:
moisok
When: 29 Nov 19 21:25
all the defenders are hiding on the politics channel eating themselves in their dear echo chamber - it is quite amusing
By:
grappler
When: 29 Nov 19 21:28
doridoru Joined: 14 May 10
Replies: 1703829 Nov 19 20:45 
Leeds Arena next Saturday tho, Shed Seven, 12,000 90% middle aged white blokes, oh oh !'

that is a legitimate target, and if i knew there was a bomb there i wouldnt tell anyone. up you go, you wanchor
By:
lux
When: 29 Nov 19 21:34
Clearly nothing whatsoever to do with Jihad and a sincere belief in the metaphysics of martyrdom.

Obviously just needed a cuddle.
By:
moisok
When: 29 Nov 19 21:36
COBRA IS IN SESSION   go cuddle up under your duvet with your cocoa  -all is well
By:
saddo
When: 29 Nov 19 21:36
SontaranStratagem 29 Nov 19 20:40 
Nov 29, 2019 -- 8:33PM, saddo wrote:

I don't think for a minute that this man killed because he secretly want to be like your everyday person who has a job, a wife/husband, kids etc. II think he wanted to kill non Muslims because he hates them.


Everyone wants to be accepted, saddo

But they aren't sociable, they are awkward individuals who have shut themselves of for far to long sadly, people will find them weird/odd

Its when it gets to the "nothing to lose" stage that they become a pain in the backside



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That doesn't fit the profile of the London tube bomber from Leeds or many others.
By:
moisok
When: 29 Nov 19 21:37
foreign secretary at meeting too!!!!!!!!!!!
By:
lux
When: 29 Nov 19 21:37
bagsy Dr Mindbender!
By:
lux
When: 29 Nov 19 21:40
Oh wrong Cobra
By:
moisok
When: 29 Nov 19 21:40
do not watch sky if you want your telly to stay in one piece - they are sat around a table who are experts(not) on this
By:
moisok
When: 29 Nov 19 21:46
who has been released early from prison?  why is boris going on about longer sentences and the foreign secretary at the meeting?
By:
Hank Hill
When: 29 Nov 19 21:53
I'm only just catching up on this story. Is it coincidence that it is at London Bridge again? What is the appeal of this location? there are loads of tourist spots in London.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 29 Nov 19 21:55
What the public want is an investigation into each terror incident, this would help repel more attacks and  tell us what they knew about the culprit and how did he enter the country and under what means.

What we get is nothing, zero, zilch.
By:
jucel69
When: 29 Nov 19 21:56
Close every mosque and make practising the cult of Islam illegal.
A lot will fùck off then
By:
Hank Hill
When: 29 Nov 19 21:57
What about all the homegrown ones IS? they didn't enter-  they were already here
By:
moisok
When: 29 Nov 19 21:58
we will stand shoulder to shoulder - we will not give in to them - we will go about business as normal - we will not be intimidated

SO THE TORY AND LABOUR STOP CANVASSING IN LONDON

yeah right on brother
By:
moisok
When: 29 Nov 19 22:00
johnson has the foreign secretary there and is talking about stronger sentencing

what does one make of that
By:
moisok
When: 29 Nov 19 22:01
jucel   I understand they handle these matters differently in your neck of the woods
By:
jucel69
When: 29 Nov 19 22:01
We must have some islands in the middle of nowhere where we can put this filth
By:
moisok
When: 29 Nov 19 22:03
there are two dead and one serious  - on our streets!!!  but then a normal day as mr khan might allude to
By:
jucel69
When: 29 Nov 19 22:04

Nov 29, 2019 -- 10:01PM, moisok wrote:


jucel

By:
jucel69
When: 29 Nov 19 22:06
Those fun loving muslims have murdered 6000 Thais in the last 15 years from teachers (not teaching the Qaran) to Buddhist monks and all in between
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