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By:
detraveller
When: 19 Nov 19 13:37
nick, its a trap.
By:
lfc1971
When: 19 Nov 19 13:37
Ah , it’s a new concept , I don’t believe any other person has thought of it before , not hawking or newton or Einstein
I don’t know
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 19 Nov 19 13:44
detraveller, I refer you to my post at 14:30


If you put in hours of study today and find a horse for tomorrow which you back with confidence at 2/1, what if someone 200 miles away has the same horse as the last leg of a 10-fold after the previous nine have won?
By:
lfc1971
When: 19 Nov 19 13:51
Look at it this way , the only way that the mathematical theory of probability can be true is if we live in an infinite universe of infinite time and if we are infinite
But we aren’t , we only live for 70 years
Therefore that means there is a fundamental flaw in maths
In probability , and in all other sectors of mathematics
By:
detraveller
When: 19 Nov 19 13:53

Nov 19, 2019 -- 1:44PM, i_agree_with_nick wrote:


detraveller, I refer you to my post at 14:30If you put in hours of study today and find a horse for tomorrow which you back with confidence at 2/1, what if someone 200 miles away has the same horse as the last leg of a 10-fold after the previous nine have won?


I agree with you. That is the math I know. Or knew before I realized we only live finite number of years which clearly renders all mathematical theories useless.

By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 19 Nov 19 13:55
LFC, I don't know whether you're right or not but would you care to address the point in my previous post?
By:
lfc1971
When: 19 Nov 19 13:57
Of course if we do live in an infinite universe of infinite time ( and we might )then the laws of maths could be correct , they just won’t be correct for ourselves
So for all practical purposes the laws of maths are fundamentally flawed ( either in fact or as they exist )
By:
lfc1971
When: 19 Nov 19 13:58
TIME , that’s the important thing nick
By:
dave1357
When: 19 Nov 19 15:14
detraveller • November 19, 2019 1:08 PM GMT

And what is the probability of tails on the 100th toss given 99 previous tosses resulted in tails.


The issue of whether the coin is biased must be considered.
By:
detraveller
When: 19 Nov 19 15:46
It is assumed its not biased. But that's all irrelevant now anyways since either way, the laws of math are flawed.
By:
peckerdunne
When: 19 Nov 19 16:35
NEVER Heard such garbage in all my life...

Firstly time does not exist, and if you believe it is a thing, well then show it to me.

Second, however old you live to has absolutely nothing to do with the odds of the next coin flip.

It's complete petulant bollox to try and state otherwise.
By:
detraveller
When: 19 Nov 19 16:39
Is it the first time you've read any of lfc's posts?
By:
peckerdunne
When: 19 Nov 19 16:40
no, i get it Det......
By:
Charlie
When: 19 Nov 19 17:56
Let's not mince words here lfc is clearly barmy. But the rooms example is difficult to get your head around. Infinity, of which there are many different forms, is a difficult concept for me.

His idea of probability is clearly wrong.

The issue of whether maths exists in the absence of a universe (and hence time) has been discussed innumerable times. It's too difficult for me to get an angle on.
By:
lfc1971
When: 19 Nov 19 18:26
It’s perfectly straightforward I’ve done the hard work of thinking
Here it is , every time you walk 100 yds you prove that there is a fundamental flaw in maths
If there wasn’t you would never be able to walk 100 yds

But you must be able to walk 100 yds , because if you couldn’t then time wouldn’t exist
And if time didn’t exist the universe wouldn’t exist
And you wouldn’t exist

Understand now ?
By:
Charlie
When: 19 Nov 19 18:29
Thanks for that lfc. Yes I do understand. You're barmier than I thought.
By:
lfc1971
When: 19 Nov 19 18:31
They said the same thing about Einsteins theory
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 19 Nov 19 18:31
Get a copy of Quantum Physics for Dummies.
By:
lfc1971
When: 19 Nov 19 18:32
That’s basic stuff , I like to think of something original , I’ve done that
That’s difficult to do
By:
Charlie
When: 19 Nov 19 18:35
Go on lfc humor us what have you done original?
By:
lfc1971
When: 19 Nov 19 18:36
Might have to patent these last two pages of chit chat
By:
Charlie
When: 19 Nov 19 18:37
Talking like a tw@t has been done many times before but I must admit you're good at it.
By:
detraveller
When: 19 Nov 19 18:39
Here it is , every time you walk 100 yds you prove that there is a fundamental flaw in maths
If there wasn’t you would never be able to walk 100 yds


There are infinite amount of real numbers between 1 and the next smallest real number you could think of after 1.
How come I can still count to 2?

Comparing apples with oranges is your expertise and not having a brain helps you do that without worrying about the consequences.
By:
detraveller
When: 19 Nov 19 18:40
And of course my argument is true because I will die at 70 and time works in reverse too.
By:
lfc1971
When: 19 Nov 19 18:41
It’s all there detraveller , I’ve explained it all
Read it again , and try to understand
There’s no point reading words of course , if you don’t understand words
By:
detraveller
When: 19 Nov 19 18:42
Like I said, i'll die at 70. So clearly there is a flaw in your thinking.
By:
lfc1971
When: 19 Nov 19 18:44
Deary me detraveller , and you were the one who couldn’t understand the empty hotel room question
I explained that to you also
No need to say thanks
By:
lfc1971
When: 19 Nov 19 18:44
Tea time
By:
detraveller
When: 19 Nov 19 18:46
Must be a luxury mental institution that. Enjoy.
By:
jollyswagman
When: 19 Nov 19 19:04
lfc has an infinite ability to catch people in his net Laugh

who would deny that?
By:
peckerdunne
When: 19 Nov 19 19:35
Laugh what a plank

Walking 100 yards is a physical act completely unrelated to time...
By:
Charlie
When: 19 Nov 19 19:40

Nov 19, 2019 -- 7:04PM, jollyswagman wrote:


lfc has an infinite ability to catch people in his net who would deny that?


I think I would deny that because there are only a limited number of people on Betfair and obviously just a small number of other people on the planet. But given the number of possible extra-terrestrials looking in for signs of intelligence life on Earth then it's a possibility. They wont find any on here but it should be taken into account.

By:
peckerdunne
When: 19 Nov 19 19:44
No Charles, sorry to correct you, he was not speaking of the amount but of the 'ability' which is clearly infinite because he will die at 70......Laugh

I'm sorry if you don't understand that as i have thought about it so it must be correct 

Laugh
By:
peckerdunne
When: 19 Nov 19 19:46
off course if the net is not sustainable he will still have the ability but the net will be empty Laugh
By:
Charlie
When: 19 Nov 19 19:51
pecker I don't mind being corrected but I have no fckin idea what you are on about Laugh
By:
jollyswagman
When: 19 Nov 19 20:02
sorry charlie but he doesnt need an infinite number of potential victims to have an infinite ability to catch people in his net. he is so successful at what he does many of his victims return time and again, one victim may be caught an infinite number of times Laugh

anything's possible i read it somewhere.
By:
peckerdunne
When: 19 Nov 19 20:03
that's how i feel also when lfc posts, which was my point
By:
detraveller
When: 19 Nov 19 20:03
The best part was when lfc said he wanted to patent this thread. As if some other nutter is going to steal that theory of his.
By:
Pleasegivemeanailedontip
When: 21 Nov 19 10:07
What’s the answer to the hotel thing?

Surely it’s not the moving people round rubbish (which has nothing to do with infinity, you can do it with 10 rooms and 11 people, it’s not a solution)

Isn’t the answer just no you can’t get any more people in if all the rooms are occupied?
By:
detraveller
When: 21 Nov 19 10:16
The answer is indeed moving people to the next room.

How do you do it with 10 rooms and 11 people?
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