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11 Nov 19 12:27
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Farage says Brexit party will not fight Tories in 317 seats, in significant boost to Johnson's election chances
Farage says he weighed up Johnson’s promises against the threat that the Brexit party standing could let the Lib Dems in.

Farage says the Brexit party will not stand against the Tories in the 317 seats they won in 2017.
But it will concentrate its efforts on seats held by the Labour party.

And it will also challenge other remainer parties.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2019/nov/11/general-election-parties-vie-for-veterans-votes-as-keith-vaz-quits-politics-live
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Report twizzle22 November 11, 2019 12:37 PM GMT
Great news....Labour and the unlibdems gonna be smashed upGrin
Report boxingthefox November 11, 2019 12:49 PM GMT
Fantastic news.Grin
Report Dr Crippen November 11, 2019 12:49 PM GMT
Again Farage shows the kind of stuff that all politicians should be made of.
Report lux November 11, 2019 12:53 PM GMT
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M
Report trilby22 November 11, 2019 1:19 PM GMT
Nippy Krankie raging Laugh Superb Love
Report pumphol. November 11, 2019 1:22 PM GMT
Also should not be contesting any seat Labour beat the cons at the last election by less than a thousand seats, must be a few of those as well.
Report dave1357 November 11, 2019 1:23 PM GMT
^^why?  The brexit party isn't taking any votes from her.

pumphol is more or less correct.
Report pumphol. November 11, 2019 1:28 PM GMT
Seven seats Labour beat the Cons into second place last time  by less than 240 votes, key seats Brexit should not be contesting if they have gone this far with withdrawing.
Report dave1357 November 11, 2019 1:36 PM GMT
actually the tories should win all labour held seats with less than a 2000 majority, about 20 seats.  Whether the brexit party will take labour or tory votes or equal amounts is debateable but the info from recent polls suggest that they take more labour votes.  If brexit wanted the maximum disruptive effect they would only stand in seats where labour had a more than 2000 majority.
Report pumphol. November 11, 2019 1:42 PM GMT
That would be the common sense approach but when did that ever enter the recent political scene.
Report TELL DEL November 11, 2019 2:01 PM GMT
You just can't trust what Boris says, "No deal with Farage" - really ? ?
Report boxingthefox November 11, 2019 2:07 PM GMT
No but you can trust Jezza, CrazyCryLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report boxingthefox November 11, 2019 2:11 PM GMT
Leftys on run, I can feel a song coming on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK0DbgovWZo
Report Torquemada November 11, 2019 2:17 PM GMT
Sensible move from Farage. Sometimes you have to know when to retreat and fight another day.

I wanted the Brexit Party and Conservatives to negotiate a deal, but it looks like Boris has gambled on this one and it’s paid off.

Loony lefties and remoaners absolutely SEETHING so that’s always fun to see. LaughLaughLaugh
Report pa lapsy November 11, 2019 2:26 PM GMT
With a bit of luck a step towards the breaking up of Scotland and NI away from the union, a good thing,belt away Boris,sound Nige.
Report alun2005 November 11, 2019 2:38 PM GMT
The Left :  "Vote tactically to stop Johnson becoming PM and ensure we continue to have a Remainer Parliament, which will prevent the Brexit the country voted for"


ALSO The Left : "How DARE the Brexit Party NOT stand in Tory constituencies. That sort of tactical move to try and facilitate the Brexit that the Fascist Nazi Racist Islamophobic Homophobic Transphobic Pretendy Refugee hating public voted for is a disgrace".
Report Angoose November 11, 2019 2:43 PM GMT
Nice of you to invent two quotes for balance Happy
Report Facts November 11, 2019 3:10 PM GMT
Dr Crippen    11 Nov 19 13:49 
Again Farage shows the kind of stuff that all politicians should be made of.



Nah, the snake oil remains solely his and his alone.
Report Ibrahima Sonko November 11, 2019 3:12 PM GMT
Have the bbc gone into meltdown yet ?

Imagine the libtards will be crying themselves to sleep.
Report Crisp77 November 11, 2019 3:22 PM GMT
I don't see the point of voting for Labour, SNP & Liberals the No Deal parties. Europe has had several chances to enforce no deal on us and each time they have cowered away and given an extension. Just proves that Conservatives and Farage were right that it should be used as a lever to get a better deal.
Report dave1357 November 11, 2019 3:30 PM GMT
rofl - why would they enforce no deal after the UK has asked for an extension (damaging both economies)?
Report Crisp77 November 11, 2019 3:31 PM GMT
Exactly Cool
Report SontaranStratagem November 11, 2019 3:57 PM GMT
this has basically handed a massive majority to the tories CryCry

The other seats they are contesting will only split the labour vote not the tory vote that the media want you to think

I think this could be a landslide for the tories now SadCrazyCrazy
Report SontaranStratagem November 11, 2019 3:59 PM GMT

Nov 11, 2019 -- 3:22PM, Crisp77 wrote:


I don't see the point of voting for Labour, SNP & Liberals the No Deal parties. Europe has had several chances to enforce no deal on us and each time they have cowered away and given an extension. Just proves that Conservatives and Farage were right that it should be used as a lever to get a better deal.


Its over now and this has just confirmed it, a big laugh in the face of everyone from Farage and the banking cartel

"tactical voting" now out the window but that made no difference anyway because it was only splitting the labour vote and handing the tories the seat anyway, shows how stupid people are doesn't it

But you might as well not bother voting unless its for tory now anyway, its over and done with.

Report boxingthefox November 11, 2019 4:02 PM GMT
Wonderful thread. Love
Report Crisp77 November 11, 2019 4:02 PM GMT
And the beauty is that Liberals can't gift their seats to SNP in retaliation because the next Prime Minister has one of those seats Laugh
Report SontaranStratagem November 11, 2019 4:08 PM GMT
Still 1.62 for a majority ffs

If they don't get the majority from here it'll be a miracle SadSad

I got £300 on Saturday at 1.94, really wanted to get another £500 on but didn't have the funds to do it at the time CryCry

Horrible that is happening and would have liked another good chunk on at decent odds
Report SontaranStratagem November 11, 2019 4:15 PM GMT

Nov 11, 2019 -- 1:22PM, pumphol. wrote:


Also should not be contesting any seat Labour beat the cons at the last election by less than a thousand seats, must be a few of those as well.


Wrong

By contesting them they are taking labour voters who want brexit, gifting the seat to the tories Cry, the staunch tory voter will not jump sides trust me, but labour voters who are voting entirely from a brexit point of view will switch. Labour are going to lose those seats as well. Its madness what's going on here but heyho its not my life being shafted so fack it. I feel sorry for the poor fackers who are about to get shafted by their fellow neighbour ffs.

If this is going the way I think this is going to be an easy Tory win by probably 400 seats +

Report SontaranStratagem November 11, 2019 4:19 PM GMT

Nov 11, 2019 -- 2:38PM, alun2005 wrote:


The Left :  "Vote tactically to stop Johnson becoming PM and ensure we continue to have a Remainer Parliament, which will prevent the Brexit the country voted for"ALSO The Left : "How DARE the Brexit Party NOT stand in Tory constituencies. That sort of tactical move to try and facilitate the Brexit that the Fascist Nazi Racist Islamophobic Homophobic Transphobic Pretendy Refugee hating public voted for is a disgrace".


They have every right to be seething from a its all over angle

This has just handed them a hiding and they know it

Boris facking Johnson winning a clean majority CrazyCrazy

Unbelievable ffs

Report twizzle22 November 11, 2019 4:28 PM GMT
Post from Facts
Nah, the snake oil remains solely his and his alone


Mention Nigel Farage and without fail Facts will pop up with his usual platitude of him being a "snake oil" salesman.He must have heard the insult (probably from Soubry or Phillips) and now just can't seem to stop himself.Not an original thought in his pickled marshmallow head.
Report twizzle22 November 11, 2019 4:30 PM GMT
Gina Miller must be ragingHappy
Report Pokermonster November 11, 2019 4:51 PM GMT
This could be a game changer.

Had a Brexit Party candidate stood in my constituency the Liberals would have won the seat for sure.
Report Pokermonster November 11, 2019 4:54 PM GMT
They still might I should hasten to add. The seat has flipped-flopped between Tories and Liberals in recent times.
Report Injera November 11, 2019 5:00 PM GMT
What's Boris offered Farage?
Report Crisp77 November 11, 2019 5:03 PM GMT
He's going to be the next James Bond
Report alun2005 November 11, 2019 5:18 PM GMT
I'm still far from certain this decision by Farage will actually help Johnson/Tories that much in those constituencies in the Midlands/North/Wales NOT presently held by the Tories. 

The pro-Brexit vote will still get split there, and anyone underestimating Labour in those regions should take note of recent history. Labour can still rely on the very effective Sharia Law Block Vote (particularly by post) and the easily-impressed students who voted Labour in dual locations as in 2017.

Remember Peterborough?  Anyone who saw those scenes after the recent by-election result might have thought they were watching coverage from an election in Islamabad Central.

The thing that worries Corbyn's Labour more than anything is for much tighter (and long-overdue) controls on Voter ID, particularly by post. In the 2017 General Election (for example), a staggering 8.4 million votes were cast by post, or 18% of those who voted in the election. The idea that almost 1 in 5 can't make it to a Polling Station for a legitimate reason on Election Day is ludicrous.
Report Injera November 11, 2019 5:33 PM GMT
Mr Farage told the Daily Mirror he wanted 'nothing' from the Government 'and I have asked for nothing'.

Pressed on an offer of a peerage in return for not standing against the Conservatives he added: 'I was offered one last Friday.

'Ridiculous – the thought they can buy me, a high-paid job; but I'm not interested, I don't want to know.'

Mr Farage insisted that he had been swayed by the premier's pledge in a video message last night that the transition period will not be extended beyond the end of 2020, and the government would strike a 'Super Canada Plus' trade deal.

'That sounds a bit more like the Brexit we voted for,' Mr Farage said. 'Last night I weighed up Boris's promises and is he going to stick to them, against the threat, particularly in the south and south west, that we let in a load of Lib Dem Remainers.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7672705/Nigel-Farage-says-Brexit-Party-NOT-fight-600-seats-election.html
Report SontaranStratagem November 11, 2019 6:06 PM GMT
Farage is a t*sser LaughLaugh

this deal of Bozos is far from the brexit people voted for

And to make it more comical the one's who were bashing the deal are now saying its a great one CrazyCrazy

You couldn't make it up ffs

Good luck with the result on the 13th eh
Report boxingthefox November 11, 2019 6:12 PM GMT
Best of luck with your bet, one of the few on here (a gambling site) to actually seize on a betting opportunity, regardless of political persuasion. WinkHappy
Report twizzle22 November 11, 2019 6:14 PM GMT
NF is the only politician who actually tell as it is and if not for him  would be stuck in the European Gestapo for eternity..hats off to the "Nige".
Report boxingthefox November 11, 2019 6:18 PM GMT
Amen to that twizzle.
Report SontaranStratagem November 11, 2019 6:36 PM GMT
The one's finding this amusing right now wont find it so amusing when they get sacked for throwing a sicky

And no workers rights remember
Report GRANTCKING November 11, 2019 6:37 PM GMT

Nov 11, 2019 -- 6:28PM, anxious wrote:


Farage and Bullingdon are a pair of coonts


corbyn is a coont aswell tho, thats the problem

Report GRANTCKING November 11, 2019 6:37 PM GMT
guys best mates with the IRA ffs
Report trilby22 November 11, 2019 6:38 PM GMT
Remainers ragin', seethin' and foamin' at the mooth Grin

Dear Brexiteer,

Today in Hartlepool, I made clear The Brexit Party’s strategy for the General Election. I always said that I would put country before party – and I meant it.

We want to stop the Remainers winning enough seats to introduce a second referendum, offering us a false choice between Remain and Remain. That’s why we are not going to contest the 317 seats that the Conservatives won in 2017. For months, I have argued for a Leave alliance. Now we have launched it unilaterally. This will ensure that there will not be a second referendum and that Brexit can finally be delivered.

We will though contest every seat held by Corbyn’s Remainer Labour Party, which has openly betrayed five million Labour Leave voters. And we will stand in all seats held by the other Remainer parties.

Let me explain how we came to this difficult decision. When Boris Johnson came back with his new EU Treaty, I made no secret of my concerns. Two aspects in particular stood out. First, it did not ‘get Brexit done’ – it would mean at least another three years of agonising negotiations in which EU negotiator Monsieur Barnier would have the upper hand. And second, the Treaty meant we were committing ourselves to regulatory and political alignment with EU rules on everything from our fishing to our financial services.

That’s why last week we signed 600 Brexit Party candidate nomination forms, because I felt that in a democracy everybody deserves a genuine choice.

Last night, however, I heard something from Boris Johnson that at last made me feel more optimistic. In a video the Prime Minister said that he would not extend the Transition Period beyond the end of 2020 – a huge challenge to Barnier and Juncker.

Even more importantly, Boris said that he would seek a ‘super Canada-plus’ free trade deal with the EU, with no political alignment. That is a significant step in the right direction. It starts to look more like the Brexit that 17.4m of us voted for.

So, we have decided to give Boris half a chance, and focus on taking the fight to Labour in their Brexit heartlands. It was The Brexit Party that beat Labour here in the May European elections – and we can, with your help, do it again. There are millions of traditional Labour voters waiting for a party that is on their side, that believes in bringing more money and jobs back to the regions, that says we need sensible immigration controls. These are messages that will resonate hard in those Labour Leave areas.

How do we hold Boris to his promises? We have to start winning some of those Labour seats, by making Corbyn’s Labour pay for their betrayal of Brexit. Getting MPs into Parliament is the way we can hold Mr Johnson to account. We cannot win those seats without your help.

I have no great love for the Conservative Party. But I see stopping the Remainers and their **** second referendum as the biggest issue facing our country. Our actions today have stopped the Remain alliance in is tracks.

The question of trust is key. There can be no real Brexit without The Brexit Party in Parliament to keep Boris honest. And we cannot get there without your help.

Thanks for your support. Together we can beat the Remainer alliance and change politics for good.



Nigel Farage — Leader of The Brexit Party
Report trilby22 November 11, 2019 6:38 PM GMT
Hey Grant!  GSTQ bud Cool
Report GRANTCKING November 11, 2019 6:39 PM GMT
Grin sup trilby
Report trilby22 November 11, 2019 6:39 PM GMT
r!gged is banned? Laugh
Report GRANTCKING November 11, 2019 6:40 PM GMT
Laugh
Report anxious November 11, 2019 6:45 PM GMT
What a fairy merchant farage is only the other week he was saying Bullingdons deal was a shambles and worse than chairman mays , now he comes out with this crap
Report trilby22 November 11, 2019 6:48 PM GMT
And he (Nige) said he had been reassured by “a very clear change of direction” signalled by Mr Johnson in a video posted on social media on Sunday evening, in which the PM promised to negotiate a “super Canada-plus” free trade agreement with the EU and rule out any extension of talks on future relations beyond the end of 2020.
Report trilby22 November 11, 2019 6:48 PM GMT
Makes a big difference, Anx.
Report casemoney November 11, 2019 6:52 PM GMT
"a staggering 8.4 million votes were cast by post, or 18% of those who voted in the election. The idea that almost 1 in 5 can't make it to a Polling Station for a legitimate reason on Election Day is ludicrous."

Shocked
Report boxingthefox November 11, 2019 6:54 PM GMT
That's fcked now case. Wink
Report SontaranStratagem November 11, 2019 6:54 PM GMT

Nov 11, 2019 -- 6:45PM, anxious wrote:


What a fairy merchant farage is only the other week he was saying Bullingdons deal was a shambles and worse than chairman mays , now he comes out with this crap


Makes no difference

People are dumb and will go along with it because they are voting 'the winning team'

Let them have the coming rogering, i feel sorry for the genuine people out there, the one's who are going to suffer

But I cant feel sorry for cognitive dissonance sorry, if they are willing to overlook the obvious then so be it

Report boxingthefox November 11, 2019 6:56 PM GMT
"cognitive dissonance " thats no way to talk about Jezza supporters. Laugh
Report SontaranStratagem November 11, 2019 7:14 PM GMT
boxingthefox

Well yes you're right. All of the voters have it that is true.
Report boxingthefox November 11, 2019 7:15 PM GMT
Wink
Report twizzle22 November 11, 2019 7:26 PM GMT
Enjoying anxious having an epic seetheLaugh
Report GRANTCKING November 11, 2019 7:29 PM GMT
Laugh
Report Torquemada November 11, 2019 9:38 PM GMT
Expressing a hope for violence. ‘‘Twas always thus with the left.
Report HGS November 11, 2019 9:41 PM GMT
Arise Sir Nigel!
Report Baphornet November 12, 2019 11:00 PM GMT
It's all going rather swimmingly
Report impossible123 November 12, 2019 11:42 PM GMT
Where the hell have you been? We nearly reported you missing!
Report SontaranStratagem November 12, 2019 11:50 PM GMT
Bap turns up to bask in the glory LaughLaugh

I would advice against it bappy, its no good what's around the corner Laugh
Report Baphornet November 13, 2019 12:01 AM GMT
I've been tending to my olives
Report HGS November 14, 2019 6:49 PM GMT
200/1 landed! Laugh
Report Baphornet November 14, 2019 7:40 PM GMT
unfortunately, "the dishwasher" tried to get his normal scabby bad race fiver ew on in the high street & was told to "FRO back to his cardboard box". Not to mention he waited for the event to finish before trying to get on of course
Report SontaranStratagem November 14, 2019 8:27 PM GMT
Bappy

We are doing our best to stop the Tories from winning this majority

If we can keep them down to 290 seats and Labour get 270 its been a successful (s)election

Spread the word my friend
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