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That’s what things look like in our cities today
Imagine having the true audacity to go to a food bank in this country where not a single person is poor And no one has starved for many centuries |
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pecker, I did not start this thread to rip into people on benefits. Far from it. I was questioning the idea that food banks are a good thing. Imo as mentioned they are not. The benefit system as a whole is vital to this country.
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Ok facts. Make the ignorant less so. Tell us why food banks are so great. And if you have a solution to their existence, that wouldn't go amiss either.
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"The ignorance demonstrated on here is utterly staggering., as well as disgusting."
couldnt agree more - shameful |
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There are a number of subsets of society - what can't be ignored is that there are a large number of our society who are struggling terribly - one party wants to help them and make their lives better, and one party couldnt give a f uck - whatever faults Labour have, they genuinely care about people in this country - vote accordingly
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And who has to go to food banks ? I’ve never been to one
I thought I knew the score ![]() |
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That was a party political broadcast by....
So safe to assume food banks will be history if Labour win this election. |
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some will - LFC, your opinions from the star players of LFC to the cleaners and the stewards, are completely at odds with everything they stand for - I'm no LFC fan but the club would be ashamed to have you as a fan
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Now the Tory party is a very socialist party , and Britain is a very socialist country
Until you understand that you understand nothing , be thankful |
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socialism ? It has meant generations of alcoholics , drug addicts, teenage mothers , the workshy and people who will never work , forget about food banks , that’s what things look like in our cities now
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I don’t want to see fking foodbanks , sorry
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I hadn't a bob at one time,maybe about 30 years ago, but the last few pound i had,i would get a bag of spuds,carrots,that was plain common sense,have something til you meet a buddy or something comes in.Other than a roof over your head it is priority no 2.
As other posters have alluded to,food has never been so cheap. Children,Sky,cigs,a pet drink or as also said drugs would maybe put the food priority down the list a few steps,but tend to agree with op that the numbers on them are staggering and that might be due in part to simple household mismangement. Saying that they are genuine cases where most of income goes on rent, but are they getting abused overall? Tend to think they are also. |
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Labour care about nobody, their only priority is to get 're elected they are a small business.
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But it isn't "labour" they(food banks) are a product of the Tory goverment, and high rents probably the most other significant factor.
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If you provide a free service giving stuff away, don't be surprised if you get trampled in the rush to grab the goodies.
The fact is that food banks are not a necessity, they're simply an addition to the benefit system that is perfectly adequate without them. People feel good about themselves when donating to the poor - but what poor? The homeless need help but they can't just turn up and be fed, they have to be referred. They need a voucher, and they have to jump through hoops in order to get one. So the only ones who really need feeding are snooker for a start, that's an example of your do-gooders in action. |
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Thatcher and her monetarist trickle down policies created the sink estates , the destruction of manufacturing, the lack of opportunity etc , then we have had austerity, bedroom tax , the privatision of the nhs , its there for all to see the tories do not and never have given two hoots about the people , unless there is a war of course
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If the above is true can you explain to me why Labour haven't got a cat in hells chance of being elected?
Serious question. |
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Because they are in dissaray at the moment , plus when you have ex blairite lovers who hate corbyn go on the airwaves constantly rubbishing him it doesnt help , the tory lie machine and the billionaire friends using smear tactics to defend their money , power and privilege , for sure Corbyn is not perfect but come on lets see this for what it is an Establishment stich up
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No need for food banks. If you can't afford to buy food then get off your backsides and go shoplifting or mug somebody or burgle their house - all virtually legal these days so no excuse for not getting stuck in
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I see it more of their own making to be honest anxious. Anyway, I'll leave it at that and respect your opinion.
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Yep your entitled to your opinion no problem
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Labours own policy of creating more poor has backfired on them.
Labour thought they'd vote for them but they're not. |
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not many tax payers in this thread
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Everyone's a taxpayer - VAT, fuel duties, booze duties, tobacco duties, insurance premium tax, council tax, vehicle excise duty, TV licence, climate change levy (and that's only just off the top of my head).
Income tax (which is what I'm guessing you're thinking of) represents only a quarter of the government's income. |
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yes and not many of them in this thread
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Gordon Brown's policy wasn't so much to create more poor people as to ensure as many as possible were dependent on benefits - tax credits in particular.
The problem was that he alienated huge numbers of people who found themselves struggling because they can't access benefits or tax credits. Brown and then Miliband discovered that the party could no longer win an election. So the middle classes and the privileged took over the party (Corbyn, Seumas Milne, Andrew Murray, etc.) and made it into a vehicle for hardline Jew-hating Stalinism. They figured (perhaps correctly) that there are enough anti-freedom, anti-Israel, climate-communist types among the middle classes and the privileged in this country to win an election that way. |
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Give some credit to the staff at these centres. There are truly some users who need food banks otherwise they and their kids will go hungry for most of the days. I think a bit of sacrifice from some of us could help the users enormously. Humanity is not costly.
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I read once that the calculation to find the amount that someone out of work needs to live on, would expect claimants to use charity shops for their tailoring, and to make the most of special food offers at the supermarkets.
I hope now that food banks are getting common, that the free food available doesn't start being figured in to the amount considered enough to live on. That would be a smack in the face for the unemployed, if they were expected to go down to the food bank for their meals. And I can see it coming. |
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Not much dignity or compassion in here.
PLASTER/ROOT PROBLEM |
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Of course when you provide a safety net for people, that safety net is soon taken for granted. And as in the case of businesses like food banks, their role changes from a safety net into simply another benefit that is part of the system.
The shocking thing about food banks, is that they deny help to those in desperate need such as the homeless. Then cover themselves by saying the homeless can get food if they have a food voucher. |
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Food banks are not created to supply people ,just to suppress,.. know thy place and be grateful.....send us £3 YOU could save a family
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They are the emergency places for basic food stuff to tie someone over esp mum with young kids until family credit arrives - it's not a long term solution. However, more and more people use them for basic essentials eg baked beans, tinned spuds, pasta, etc in between.
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Close them down and if anyone starves to death we will think again , not before
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I think they are a necessity nowadays, but not government funded as it could give rise to abuse and fraud. Use them for emergency only to tie users over until benefits arrive.
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It simply means they use more on their money on drugs , gambling , alcohol and cigarettes ,
my neighbours don’t work |
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I suppose they might do the unthinkable , and get a job
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The food bank opens in the afternoon , they wait for it to open in the pub opposite
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your an aimless drifter in fact you are one of them
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I knew of a young family of two who's just been made homeless due to the father's controlling and coercive behaviour and corporal chastisement. They are presently in secured emergency accommodation despite the father owning 3 properties with 2 incomes - job and rental properties. They are surviving on family handouts and vouchers for food banks whilst family credit is being processed; mother and father are not married but have been in long term relationship for over a decade.
The father is a bastard. He told his daughter no return - no toys. But, return only without the mother; mother walked out because the father chastised the daughter by punching her in the leg - she's only 9 yrs old. The father went ballistic after the mother reported him to the police and social services for threatening to kill them, and her families. The father is a manager of a department in a London Council. He's also a bully at work; he's made a female colleague cry with his controlling and coercive behaviour. But, for the food banks their lives would have been more unbearable. Their lives have changed overnight but for the better long term. |
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It was Christmas day at the food bank, they put on a decent spread.
The soup of the day was oxtail, with crusty cobs of bread. We went for the chicken nuggets, while others had turkey roast The workers who couldn't get vouchers, stayed home and had beans on toast. The moral is pretty basic, you can work as hard as you wish. But all you will get is knackered, while claimers keep taking the pish . |