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Stow Judge
Mark Twain once said "Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." There's little point. As for the economic evidence that Baphornet refuses to provide, let me enlighten you.... "We send the EU £350m a week, let's fund our NHS instead." And that economic evidence is from The Prime Minister himself. |
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Yes, there's also - don't feed the trolls.
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dave, to me the evidence suggests that those people who will be most badly affected in the short term are more likely to have voted for BREXIT. So the argument I'm going to be alright Jack, feck those that aren't is largely redundant.
Of course in the longer term the old codgers with alzheimers, dementia and a general lack of intelligence, will be dead, and the younger members of our country will have to pay for their folly. We'll end up joining the EU again. |
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Just listen to this condensing prat^
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Also worth pointing out that the
"simpler the message, the more it resonates" so quoting an article from Johnathan Portes professor of economics serves no purpose other than to emphasize that twizzle and baph like simple messages, rather than long complicated study and reasoning. Perhaps that's the point. So comments like Boris's "We send the EU £350m a week, let's fund our NHS instead." is all their brains can register |
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tell the brexiteers stood outside commons on Saturday chanting theres only one tommy robinson
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You hardly ever hear any coherent arguments from the extremists. They seem unable to tell you what the benefits of Brexit are. They want Brexit implemented, regardless of the consequences. When many people lose their jobs after the economy is trashed, it may clarify things for them.
It seems likely to me that we'll re-join on worse terms in the future. |
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![]() like a broken record |
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What are the benefits of Brexit?
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What are the benefits of starting a thread to show everyone how clever you are, do you feel even smugger for it?
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When many people lose their jobs after the economy is trashed
absolute b/s from an extreme remainer, & as for you clydebank, i could supply plenty of evidence & have many times on here. I just don't like repeating myself to dummies with the IQs of goldfish, including the OP |
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Saddo, I suspect that your utterly pointless presence on the forum, mirrors real life, where you are likely to be universally disliked.
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Oh dear, true colours are showing, never trust a remainer.
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LSE - now there's a name to conjure with. Loads a munny from the Eu - but it wouldn't influence them when they get so much dosh WOULD IT??
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Now now mo, stop being naughty or you will never be as universally liked as some on here seem to think they are.
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i dont know what the fuss is all about the vote is going to take place tommorow isnt it ?
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It didn't influence Ebbw Vale, the part of the UK that received more money from the EU than anywhere else, completely transforming the area. They had the highest BREXIT percentage in the country
![]() #turkeys voting for xmas #complete muppets |
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you are finnish saddo you have done it now grrrrrr
![]() all these nice grants the LSE and its students get WOULD NEVER INFLUENCE ANY SURVEY OR PAPER ho fkn ho ho especially when such studies may be led by a german and italian professors (anyone remember that one?) just waiting for the accusations of lying because I can't be bothered to put a link up |
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the MSM are partly funded (including pensions) by the EU. Funny old world innit
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the goldfish who ask for answers never answer the ones put to them
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The local remain voters have organised a play in the local town hall in Ebbw Vale. Dumb, Dumber & Even Dumber Than Dumber.
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who on earth is talking about the vale ? most odd and we do send them 13.5 billion and twice to my knowledge we have had to send something like another 1.5 billion extra each time
The eu has been involved in helping to facilitate companies moving OUT of the uk with financial contributions also. just saying |
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I do hope the EU intend to offer grants to help all the welchers leave this country. We can't possibly expect them to live among so many uneducated types when the land of milk and honey is just across the water.
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approximate spending by the eu propaganda departments is approaching half a billion
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Every country pays the same proportion of its GDP into the EU. When we rejoin in the future we'll be paying less because we'll be worse off.
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From the ONS
Using the latest available figures published by the EC, a wider estimate of flows between the UK and the EU can be calculated. This calculation considers the abatement, the money the EU sends to the UK government, and the money the EU sends directly to the UK private sector. This is arguably a more complete picture of the money that flows between the UK and the EU and in 2018 the net flow was £8.6 billion. However, in the last few years the EC figures have been volatile and so a five-year average has been taken to better represent a “typical” contribution. The UK’s annual five-year average (2014 to 2018) net contribution on this wider basis was £7.8 billion; lower than the £9.8 billion ONS estimate of the annual five-year average which only captures official transactions between the EU and the UK government. |
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Clydebank, it's the rebate that might disappear to some extent, were we out, then later back in.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_rebate |
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What Adam Smith showed is that that’s not correct, that trade is a positive-sum game. Both countries can gain from both exporting and importing.
Imports are good for an economy: they help consumers, they lower prices, they increase variety. They provide necessary inputs for firms in their production process and allow for more specialist inputs that help their productivity." Not being in the EU, where we have all the benefits of the free trade that helps our businesses in the production of it's good and services is going to have a massive negative effect on our wealth that is going to dwarf the £7.8Bn we currently pay imo. |
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Cheers Stow. Not good news clearly.
For me this is the key point that is going to devastating... They provide necessary inputs for firms in their production process and allow for more specialist inputs that help their productivity |
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Businesses have to compete in a very competitive global arena. Making that more difficult will make many of our businesses uncompetitive, that does not just mean within the EU, but worldwide too and it could be devastating. If there were no statistics or information at all that would be my instinctive thinking and that is why I am instinctively strongly remain.
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neither does the news of germany entering recession exactly make good news for the eurozone
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Most economies are at, near, or past end of cycle. The USA-china trade war & other pending Trump trade wars are not helping!
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