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or words to that effect
With an aside something like - "Have the points on those titties" |
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Surely this is the right brexit? If you've got a particular opinion on leaving or remaining then you hate it. At least a decent way of bringing people together. Only ones who like it are Tory fanboys who want a win for their clown and their opinion is next to worthless. But after 3 years of division, argument, bluster and threats getting to an endpoint that most people (who can bother to look under the bonnet slightly) hate seems most apt.
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No, it isn't Brexit at all, PP. To take a wee peek under the bonnet -
https://facts4eu.org/news/2019_oct_eu_treaty_for_uk_colonisation . Forget Westminster politics, is Boris’s new EU treaty Brexit? No, it’s not Layman’s summary of the EU’s new UK colonisation treaty agreed by the PM yesterday Brexit Facts4EU.Org reviews ‘May Mk2’ with the advice of a Brussels-based barrister While most of the media continues to be obsessed by the internal politics of Brexit, we look at the basic facts of what the Government wants MPs – and therefore the British people – to sign up to. We have focused purely on all the NON NORTHERN IRELAND issues which have not changed and which make this treaty unacceptable, regardless of the amendments secured to the Backstop. What follows is a short summary of the continued imposition by the EU of an unacceptable denial of freedoms to an independent UK. Our summary has been prepared with significant input by a Brussels-based barrister. If passed by Parliament tomorrow, all of it will apply to the UK on 01 November 2019 and significant parts will apply even after the end of the Transition Period, supposedly on 01 Jan 2022 but more likely to be in many years’ time. Brexit Facts4EU.Org Summary This is ‘May Mk2’ – the EU’s latest colonisation treaty for the UK Prepared by Brexit Facts4EU.Org with advice from a Brussels-based barrister Legend: ‘WA’ = Withdrawal Agreement, ‘PD’ = Political Declaration 1. Parliament will not be sovereign - UK still to be governed by existing and new laws of the ECJ – a foreign court – and with no say over these laws. [WA articles 4, 87, 89 and 127, PD para 131] 2. Demands payment of a sum to be decided by the EU - Minimum £39 billion but this is likely to increase and the EU decides the final sum. This must be paid BEFORE any trade deal is agreed. [WA articles 138-144, and 152-155] 3. No trade deal with EU – Not included as this is just a divorce treaty. Any EU trade deal must ensure “a level playing field for open and fair competition” and “deep regulatory and customs cooperation”. This will make it difficult for the UK to reduce non-tariff barriers in trade deals with USA, Australia, China, etc. [PD paras 17 & 21] 4. Prevents independent tax policy - Political Declaration still obliges UK to adopt a future relationship which will impose EU State Aid rules and “relevant tax matters” on the UK. EU specifically intends to curb UK’s ability to have “harmful tax practices”. Withdrawal Treaty also applies EU law to UK during transition period - allowing EU to sue UK, including infringement proceedings for as yet unidentified breaches of State Aid rules and billions in VAT on commodity derivative transactions dating back to 1970s. [PD para 77, WA articles 86, 93, 127]. 5. Restricts independent foreign policy - UK to be bound by international agreements concluded by the EU despite having no influence in their negotiation during the transition period and must “refrain, during the transition period, from any action... which is likely to be prejudicial” to the interests of the EU. [Articles 129(3) and (6)]. 6. Prevents independent military action – UK permanently stopped from taking “any action likely to conflict with or impede” EU’s foreign policies. Critical parts of section on foreign policy and security are not reciprocal, eg future relationship will not “prejudice the decision-making autonomy of the EU” but no such language for UK – only permitted to “maintain the right to determine how [to respond] to any invitation to participate in operations or missions”. Also, parties “agree to consider” security collaboration in European Defence Agency, European Defence Fund, and PESCO “to the extent possible under [EU law]” which is prescriptive (not permissive) obligation. Despite paying for European Defence Agency during transition, British troops in EU battlegroups will not be led by British staff officers. [WA articles 129(6-7) and 156-157, PD paras 99, 102(c)] 7. Controls UK fishing – Common Fisheries Policy continues in UK waters during transition (which can be extended) but UK will have no say in implementation or enforcement. After transition, Political Declaration requires “cooperation on... regulation of fisheries, in a non-discriminatory manner” - code for continuing current arrangements for EU access to UK waters. Any trade deal to “ensure service providers and investors are treated in a non-discriminatory manner, including with regard to establishment” - prevents UK protecting quotas from EU purchase. [PD paras 29 and 72] 8. Replaces one EU Commission with another - New body established with “powers equivalent to those of the European Commission”. UK must accept exclusive jurisdiction of Arbitration Panel and judgments of ECJ. Grants EU officials criminal immunity and exemption from UK tax. Imposes gagging order on UK which must keep all EU information confidential but EU can use UK information as it sees fit. [WA articles 74, 101, 104-5, 106-116, 159, 168, 174] 9. Leaves UK with €500bn liabilities from EU Investment Bank but no profits - No rights to past and future profits made from UK investment in EIB, no rights to UK share of assets of EIB, yet UK remaining liable for risk of up to €500bn of guarantees. UK must let EU bid for UK public projects at least during transition. [WA articles 34, 75-78, 127, 143, 147, 150]. 10. EU colonisation - makes UK bystander in laws that govern it - UK permitted to send civil servant to Brussels to observe EU passing laws designed to disadvantage UK economy during transition which might last many years. EU could regulate London’s huge foreign exchange markets, impose financial transaction tax that would be collected at UK expense by HMRC but sent to foreign governments. [WA article 34] |
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you do realise that ending freedom of movement will just increase immigration from the rest of the planet?
there is a skills shortage. we can debate why that is and how that should not be the case is but that does not help the here and now problem which can only be addressed by hiring workers from overseas for now. if you don't want them coming from Poland or Spain ok but they will come from somewhere else. what rally p1sses me off though is that the laws that stopped European workers from coming to the UK without a job and no intention of looking for one were never ever implemented. The Netherlands, Belgium & mostof France are very strict about registering. Laws were in place but never used which lead to a false impression of so called "freedom of movement" and an unfair impression & resentment of it. |
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sorry trilbs, but a quick google of your source reveals it to be - shall we say - a touch on the biased side.
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just call him Bercow then
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Read today Letwin used to be a Rothchild Banker which explains why he is doing his utmost to stop the peoples wishes with a helping hand from the Speaker-bleedin disgrace which ever way anyone voted.
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you should have read my posts to angoosed the other day (he didn't get it) the numpty was also heavily involved in the poll tax, & of course he had to pay back over 2k for his expenses 'misdemeanour'
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but terry who will pulling out of Euro treaty's really benefit? the whole thing kicked off when the non doms, many
of who control the newspapers in this country, status was threatened. |
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Was he Baphornet-the plot sickens.
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He is a c*nt but isn't it odd that terry calls a man of jewish descent a "Rothchild Banker".
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Like most Brexiteers, Northan, I'm not at all bothered by immigration - wherever it's from - as long as it's controlled. High time the Aussie system was properly looked at and implemented, imo.
As for bias, Porcs, here's the treaty in all it's glory. Have a wee read for yourself ![]() https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/840655/Agreement_on_the_withdrawal_of_the_United_Kingdom_of_Great_Britain_and_Northern_Ireland_from_the_European_Union_and_the_European_Atomic_Energy_Community.pdf . |
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Odd? Same old sh1t from a filthy troll,THE GUY WAS A ROTHCHILD BANKER WHEATHER HE IS JEWISH OR NOT. The only reason I mentioned it is,the rothchilds are part of the 1% and these are the creatures that not only run the EU but the whole world,so my point is,Letwin is trying to f uck up Brexit on behave of his masters, so dave if you have to play the racist card go ahead as I couldn't give a sh1t .
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In other words you cant tell the truth because some a$$hole will come along and call you anti-jew. In other words these people can do want they like no matter how evil but don't you dare say anything against them its anti jew. Isnt that great, free to do anything you like and get away with it because people are scared that some lowlife will brand you with a name. Boll0cks wee dave and mex.
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