Deal done

so the house cant vote on the same bill yet despite voting to leave the EU , we will probably all be asked to vote again ... on the same thing. No hypocrisy there

no chance of another ref

There shouldnt be one but many are campaigning for it

they can campaign all they want; it isn't up to them

Bercow can take on all comers haha, for a little man he's got some sponk

aye no doubt he's full of it

Jenkin what a horrible creep he is one Thatchers original poodles

Incredible, John Bercow controlled by the scum of Labour and Lib dems, is in fact running the country...now really is the time to burn it down, LABOUR LIBS ETC KILLED DEMOCRACY....EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM IS ON FILM SAYING THEY WOULD RESPECT THE RESULT OF THE REFERENDUM...ABS DEVIOUS SCUM WHO COULDN'T STAND TO LOSE.

i'm no fan of Jenkins, anx but at least he had a pop whilst other shîthouses are sat on their hands

Everyone knew this was the most likiest of outcomes

How offended will you be then if/when the paid for friends of DUP line the amendments up?

i won't be offended at all, i said on the previous page what would happen. Being offended is not the same as calling the speaker exactly what he is, & predicting what he'd do before you even commented; including a shît load of amendments that he will pass

Vile disgusting bas*ards

And if anyone of those remainer crowing about it decide to mock on a forum tonight i'll demand their facking IP address

Its not hard to find out their IP address surely?

Scum of the earth

all registered at the same address

Broadmoor Hospital
Kentigern Drive , Crowthorne, Berkshire, RG45 7EG

my bad, i missed out C/O The MSM goldfish bowl

Its good viewing when you consider all this with the tory backbenchers decrying the result of Tory Bercow's verdict following the Tory Sir Oliver Letwin's amendment....the opposition could order the popcorn

"The implication was that Brexit would be simple and that The EU would roll over and give us what we wanted"

What utter tosh? Who'd in their right mind think that? The UK have been a member for decades; 2nd largest economy in The Union; always been a net contributor 13.5% of EU budget.

Of course The EU will try their utmost to dissuade us from Brexiting eg drive a hard bargain, why? Mega annual net contribution; could signal an end to The EU; could cause friction amongst member states and citizens.

Bojo's 'Deal' was always going to be a rejig of Mrs May (even a half-wit could have predicted that) - anything else total bunkum. It does not even warrant a reply as it was so blooming obvious.

World recession or not the pitiful contribution from the new 13 member states ie £1tr out of a total $19tr was embarrassing indicating these new members were non-economic entities instead economic pariahs. They will take decades to be competitive and prosperous; blood suckers of our contributions, Germany and France. Mrs Merkel had asked for Germany's rebate in the next EU Budget citing the Brexit. I'd be extremely surprised Germans will continue to support or allow this misuse of their money in the next decade with little in return.

"I can see a statue in the foyer of the great man"

Yes ..Rumplestilskin

Should be a Full investigation to see if he Owns any betting Accounts ,if he does he is getting the Lot ..

Comment from an FT story
ND23 3 hours ago
The year is 2219. The British Prime Minister visits Brussels to ask for an extension of the Brexit deadline. No one quite remembers where or how the tradition originated however, every year it attracts many tourists from all over the world.

What utter tosh? Who'd in their right mind think that? The UK have been a member for decades; 2nd largest economy in The Union; always been a net contributor 13.5% of EU budget.

Are we in the twilight zone here or what?
I’m arguing that politicians need to be more accountable and that democracy is only as good as the validity of the information given to the electorate....and you are saying it’s tosh to assume brexit would have been easy.
Well that’s exactly what the MPs did say, and a large portion of the brexit vote was manipulated into believing it.

The argument given to the people was that they need us more than we need them and as a result we would shape our own future from a stance of power.

My point now is that the ultimate deal (boris deal) is no good, and the likes of the ERG are buying into it simply because they have seen the potential for a no deal and worker deregulation in the near future.


I’ve said this all along, that gambling is easy when it’s with other people’s money/future. The people who have been trying to destabilise this country for a generation have money in the bank and fingers in pies....the idiots who have been swayed of recent times are shop floor workers or contractors or just any old working class jingoistic head case who have suffered austerity and think it can’t get any worse. Well it can, why? Because everything is stripped back and exists on a shoestring. All profit gets stripped at source until there is little or no buffer in time or money. These workers seem to think any gamble that results in a ‘win’ will benefit them....as though they have never heard of trickle down economics. It will only take a small bump for them to feel the full force while it would have to be an almighty gain for them to get even the slightest of lifestyle increases.

Ray Kurzweil described the ‘transcendence’....this is it now. Zero hour contract, Just About Managing, part time work and austerity, food banks etc were just the first wave. The quantum computer is practically a reality and machine learning is now everywhere, not to mention improvements in robotics. The workforce is f ucked, all the government needs is a roadmap to excuse employment and turn it into business capital only, that requires laws to change....

There are ofc nutters on both extremes of the brexit argument, but just look at the ‘average’ voter now and what they are saying.

They are criticising parliament for being too particular about the future of the country. The say things like ‘oh just get it done, agree the deal’
They haven’t even seen it nor has it been scrutinised or costed independently and they are saying that.

That’s the stupidity of people. Philosophy labels the human as a ‘social and rational creature’....wtf is rational about that?

Brexiteers for the most part, the ones saying democracy has failed are the sorts of people who would simply drive out a junction without looking simply because they had grown frustrated with sitting in traffic.

Spot on. Regardless of the fact that most expert analysis suggests that all forms of Brexit will leave us worse off, those for Brexit want the referendum vote implemented, regardless of the consequences. Brexiteers just dismiss all reason as project fear, so they don't have to consider it. Most can't tell us why they want Brexit.
The polls now suggest that the majority want to stay.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-news-latest-britain-against-leaving-eu-as-poll-of-polls-says-most-now-want-to-stay-a4257476.html

https://www.standard.co.uk

Where was the Vote , NEWHAM ?

Looks like Bap was wrong, there is no leaving on the 31st regardless

He might still be right but looking very unlikely

Its basically the boring "I tried to get a deal but they wouldn't do it" line

Basically the next election is another vote for leave or remain. This is going to go on for years if we don't do something.

DIVISION!

Bozo wins 1st vote/bill

329-299

Bercow gutted.

DUP sitting on their hands - very interesting

I have man city  but are spurs too risky

i wouldn't back Spuds with bad money; more fickle than the DUP

This deal is absolutely horrible though

And they are proper having an almighty hissy fit the remainer voters

"people shouldn't be allowed to vote unless they clear a financial threshold"

"you should need photographic ID to vote"

Absolutely pitiful this lot, proper little maggots

Bozo loses 2nd vote

now lets see if he bins it

I doubt it

He's going to get this through if he doesn't?

madrid one up

he's called out the EU now

every chance of a GE now

All totally pointless

Basically its another leave or remain election BS

Basically the leave party gets the most seats and we do it all over again

Time to fight now in my opinion, they ain't letting you leave without blood

Basically its a case of "I tried but they blocked it" call to arms ie please vote again and we will get it through

Fack off should be the answer to them now

Do Not Vote!!!!

Lets just say for one minute that Labour win the most seats at this next GE? and get propped up by the Lib Dems

They will then say that remain won and there's no leave I absolutely guarantee it

Making it up as they go go

You would need a change of earth shattering proportions.

They will keep on bouncing it around until remain get their way.

They can't even keep destroyers of modern life off the streets.
They are unable to move on violent crime - they are not concerned about people

It is a nice little game to play in the bubble with their friends in the civil service to keep it going.

GO BACK TO YOUR SMALL HOLDINGS AND ALLOTMENTS AND PREPARE FOR NOTHING

No way will there be an election this year now , early next year febuary earliest

it's all on the EU now; if they grant the January extension then Bozo will bin the bill & will go for a GE before Christmas

They won't vote for an election, they wont vote for a bill, they wont allow no deal

You are being laughed and spat at

the most peed off people tonight are the EH

EH?

which is why i wanted him to lose the 2nd vote

Humiliated again so now Boris needs to go back and talk to Dom for next steps advice.

hornet why doesnt bulingdon just agree to a sensible timetable , it will pass then i think

because anx this is about more than Brexit; as i'm sure you know

I do not think Bojo will want an extension from The EU further than Jan 2020 otherwise Bojo may opt for a General Election instead to wipe out the Opposition Parties esp "chicken" Corbyn an dhis pathetic shadow front bench.

Is he dead in a ditch yet?

wac

the EU might just give a 2/3 week extension like anx wants. as i keep saying it's up to them

Richie it's not the 31st yet; but i will be laughing as much as you  -  believe me

We ain't leaving bap

He's asking for an extension

he's already asked

yeah i know this isnt about Brexit its about the election

he is ahead at the moment in the polls but an election is totally different , the tory record on austerity will be on the field of play

if he gets the deal through before the election; it won't do him any harm, if it's delayed even further; that will hurt Corbyn

Fast forward to 2095 and Corbyns great grandson proposes a short extension to discuss the finer points of the deal. We aren't ever leaving the EU- its been 3 and a half years and will continue on indefinitely

Actually its better if he gets the deal through then have the election , Labour will do a lot n  better then  all this peoples champion drivel will be forgotten

He can't get something through when he's "pulled it"

if Jezza had any sense he would have backed the 2nd bill tonight. The EU could take it out of Corbyns hands. I don't think they will - but they could

i wanted him to lose the bills, anx that should tell you all you need to know

yes but he won one and lost one , so he has won one hole and lost another near a ditch hopefully

hey anx, Bercow might pause his departure

Makes me laugh

Got it wrong the whole way down and still talks as if its right

Bojo, let's go for a 'No Deal' after all - a clean break - given the passage of time.

The reality is the DUP have given it to Bullingdon big time , revenge is a dish best served cold

he took a chance; he thought he could get them onside. He lost

he's still got further than the nutcase mind

I despair of Labour - I am a member of 45 years standing - not sure I have ever seen sh!te  like this from the party-  But then with lord rich man landsman and the rest of the crew

lady nugee   looking down her nose and grease balls kinnock and starmer


arghhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!

His deal was dog vomit

It was basically Mays version with a bit of faeces chucked on

ffs a slow turd in other words

do you think Jezza should have voted yay, Mo?

And now he's basically doing exactly what May did, asking for silly little extensions so he can put it back in again

He's May with a more severe hunchback and no lipstick

Bap

You can't possibly defend this cr**?

Its unbelievable

he's made blunders that's all but put paid to leaving this month. You reap what you sew. His major mistake for me was asking for the extension; i - personally would have gone to jail first. I said on here last weekend he should refuse to ask & go to pokey if necessary. But his moral fortitude & mine are very different

I'm half expecting Johnson to unmask and reveal Theresa May

He's without doubt the biggest plonker and let down of the lot, a bumbling plank

i would rather kiss Mo than allow Ordog & the bureaucrats to laugh at me; he not only did that but fecked up the only bullet he had & the process at the same time

I was very lucky with the Juventus game

Spuds fell home as well

https://twitter.com/WelshDalaiLama/status/1186757361442140160

i do wish the angry ant would stfu sometimes. You have him on TV all the feckin time alongside the cabbage known as Bridgen. The MSM certainly know who to stick up; i'll give them that

if anybody can listen to the likes of francios , baker , ids etc then the complete insanity is rife , we are well and truly up the creek

Ian (barrelhead) Backford appears to be getting a lot of screen time these Days ....

Are there 2 people who’s idea of what brexit means the same?
It’s the ambiguity of it that made it ethereal and divisional.

I can see this kicked around parliament with a host of amendments that means it goes back to the EU who then don’t accept it.
God knows what the Lords will make of it, I’ve not heard a single mention of them because they’ve never had the chance to take their coats off.

Brexit has barely got past the point where the felt-tipped pens have been chosen to colour in where the pretend borders go, by the time they get to the point things get past it and onto other things all the people who voted for it will be dead and the ones left will likely call a new ref to join the EU.

That, though, was about as good as it got for the prime minister. It never fails to amaze just how bad he is at making his deal sound persuasive. Almost as if it’s convenient for Brexit to mean whatever anyone wants it to mean. Even so, trying to convince the Northern Irish MPs that he knew about Northern Ireland was probably not a good idea. Especially as there were huge gaps in his knowledge about the practicalities and implications of a hard border. Next time, it might help if he read the bill before he argued for it.

I remember the first time I ever heard the term ‘brexit’
That blonde woman (Alice I think her name is) who is very expressive with her hands as she speaks about business matters on early bbc news programmes said it
I remember thinking, ‘oh that’s BR from Britain and ‘exit’....hmm quite good’

Now when I hear it I can feel my teeth chomping down and my hands wanting to grab some f ucker’s throat

ditto mate.

"labour helped push through bad deal" - Jo Swinson

Ermm not they didn't

They pushed through a bill to have a debate on pushing through a deal, then delayed their own bill

Absolutely pathetic this, the sooner people have had enough come and wake the rest of us poor fackers up

Oct 23, 2019 -- 8:12AM, dustybin wrote:

I remember the first time I ever heard the term ‘brexit’That blonde woman (Alice I think her name is) who is very expressive with her hands as she speaks about business matters on early bbc news programmes said itI remember thinking, ‘oh that’s BR from Britain and ‘exit’....hmm quite good’Now when I hear it I can feel my teeth chomping down and my hands wanting to grab some f ucker’s throat

Its time we ended it as a collective

Its gotten absolutely disgusting quite frankly

Their now having votes on a debate of a debate to vote on a deal, only after the debate do they vote through the next stages of the next debate, so they can then vote on the vote, then the main vote of the vote of the vote of the vote. Its facking childish.

Its a facking joke, its time it was ended

And stage 1 of 50,002 was voted through, then they delayed stage 2 of 50,002

And called stage 1 "a deal"

Fack off

Making it up as they go

Look and learn how law is made in Parliamnet

https://www.parliament.uk/about/how/laws/passage-bill/

here angoosed; do yourself a favour you pompous dummie

https://www.amazon.co.uk/slp/spell-checker/bazhpzn688oryo9

There's no general election coming

And the BBC have totally removed all talk of "brexit" from their main news today

As I've said. Making it up as they go, one big distraction after another

Today its a lorry full of idiots