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bigmo
14 Oct 19 22:16
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To stop this obscenity of death and mayhem in the middle east.

This isn't a place to rant and blame.
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Report Whisperingdeath October 14, 2019 10:19 PM BST
I have to say my friend who told me he was in mensa said the best way to deal with it is Nuke it!

I looked at him horrified but 35 years later I am thinking maybe he is right! They are animals and complicity is sinful! Lets hope this is something the likes of Facebook, Instagram and Starbucks can solve and bring young people together.
Report lfc1971 October 14, 2019 10:20 PM BST
nothing can be done short of colonisation
Report Whisperingdeath October 14, 2019 10:20 PM BST
off with their goolies!
Report bigmo October 14, 2019 10:22 PM BST
If you're a decent human being this is heartbreaking.
Report lfc1971 October 14, 2019 10:25 PM BST
unless you do as the British did and rule these places by force, and bring peace and stability and civilisation,

then they revert to type, and its madness and chaos
Report detraveller October 14, 2019 10:26 PM BST
I think lfc just got the perfect thread to finish off his day on.
Report detraveller October 14, 2019 10:32 PM BST
The British aren't fit to rule anyone at the moment as they are having trouble managing a handful of their past colonial subjects on their own territory.

I suggest we take over Middle East. Merkel would do a good job, who could deny that?
Report casemoney October 14, 2019 10:33 PM BST
You need to Go back and Stop the Arab Spring and also the Iraq war  ..
Report lfc1971 October 14, 2019 10:39 PM BST
no there was an arab spring because those countries were ruled by tyrants and murderers who oppressed their own people

you see if thats going to be the level you set for a country then im sorry thats not really good enough now is it?
Report lfc1971 October 14, 2019 10:48 PM BST
What should have happened in Iraq after the fall of saddamm ?

The Iraqi people should have said thankyou you America for toppling that murderous dictator
Please stay and help us build a new country
And the Americans would have done so
Report lfc1971 October 14, 2019 10:50 PM BST
That could have been great progress , Iraq could have been a free and prosperous and peaceful and democratic country
If they had let America help them
Report Baphornet October 15, 2019 12:03 AM BST
the problem is they're used to this turmoil; it's all they know going back generations; different factions/religions/beliefs all of which produce their own fanatics. So extremely difficult to break the cycle
Report UBLE/REGY October 15, 2019 12:37 AM BST
very true bap....

I don't think they ever needed our interference myself
Report terry mccann October 15, 2019 8:23 AM BST
Bigmo.if the Americans stopped doing Israel"s bidding then things would be so much nicer
Report terry mccann October 15, 2019 8:43 AM BST
Endless Wars
The Elite
5G,on Earth and Space
A.I
Geoengineering (spraying of toxic chemicals worldwide etc)
Vaccines
False Flags
Etc.

Its not looking too clever one way or another, I think once all the 5G satellite"s are up and beaming us non stop,thats it folks say your prayers .
The End.
Report lfc1971 October 15, 2019 8:44 AM BST
According to an amnesty international report in 2001 under the Saddam regime
victims of torture in Iraq are subject to electric shock , gourging out of eyes, severe beatings ,
also deaths including the beheading of women
Saddam has approx 40 of his own relatives murdered

Chemical attacks 1983-88 resulted in 30,000 deaths
Attacks against the Kurds killed at least 50,000 possibly as many as
100,000
In uprisings against Shia Iraq leaders acknowledge 250,000 killed
Oppressive government policies led to the displacement of 900,000
Iraqis mainly Kurds who fled north

The is just part of a long list of crimes committed in Iraq during Saddams regime
I don’t know why terry , and others want to point the finger of blame at Israel
Report detraveller October 15, 2019 9:35 AM BST
Some people aren't worth repairing. Some aren't defect, even though it may look like they are. And some should not look at every country and determine whether it should be repaired or not, lots of work to do in their own countries.

At the start of every year Muslims beat themselves up. With chains and hands. Enough videos on youtube and its a well documented event. Quite a bloody event. Anyone looking at them would say they are crazy. But they are not. That's the way they are. Its your definition of crazy that went soft.
Report lybertyne October 15, 2019 1:03 PM BST
Leave them to it.
Report moisok October 15, 2019 2:00 PM BST
and then Bliar lets them all come here
Report UBLE/REGY October 15, 2019 2:34 PM BST
The is just part of a long list of crimes committed in Iraq during Saddams regime
I don’t know why terry , and others want to point the finger of blame at Israel


I do, I agree with him

still we all have a right to our opinion on this lfc1971
Report lfc1971 October 15, 2019 3:00 PM BST
I know you agree with terry ebul
That’s not the point
The point is I have listed a long line of crimes committed by Saddam against his own people , even his own family
In Iraq

So the question is why are you pointing the blame at Israel ? ....
Report detraveller October 15, 2019 3:14 PM BST
Isn't he doing exactly the same thing as you lfc? I can give you a list of US/UK invasions of the middle east. And then ask you why you blame the people of the middle east for that.

Kindly try to respond without any personal insults, will really appreciate that.
Report lfc1971 October 15, 2019 3:16 PM BST
Kindly point out where I have blamed the people of the Middle East
That would be a good start
Report lfc1971 October 15, 2019 3:17 PM BST
Please try and reply without insults  , and falsehoods
Thanks
Report detraveller October 15, 2019 3:19 PM BST
The Iraqi people should have said thankyou you America for toppling that murderous dictator
...then they revert to type, and its madness and chaos
... Iraq could have been a free and prosperous and peaceful and democratic country If they had let America help them
Report detraveller October 15, 2019 3:19 PM BST
And here you are blaming Saddam:

...Saddam has approx 40 of his own relatives murdered
...Oppressive government policies led to the displacement of 900,000


Saddam was also from the middle east(my guess, haven't checked)
Report bigmo October 15, 2019 3:22 PM BST
I really didn't want this to turn to arguments. Just wanted to know peoples thoughts. It does seem as if they'll never get true peace.
Report lfc1971 October 15, 2019 3:23 PM BST
That’s correct , I didn’t blame , as you have just said , the Iraqi  people for Saddam.
I didn’t blame them for the US/ UK invasion that toppled  that murderous dictator

Not at all , I blame Saddam , and of course his fellow murderers

ok ?
Report lfc1971 October 15, 2019 3:24 PM BST
I do blame the Iraqi people ( not all of course but many )
Who then went on to murder thousands of fhere fellow citizens

Getting there now ?
Report detraveller October 15, 2019 3:26 PM BST
lfc1971 • October 15, 2019 3:16 PM BST
Kindly point out where I have blamed the people of the Middle East

lfc1971 • October 15, 2019 3:24 PM BST
I do blame the Iraqi people ( not all of course but many )


I will get this printed and framed. And put it on my wall. This has to be an achievement worth celebrating and even showing my kids.
Report detraveller October 15, 2019 3:27 PM BST
In fact when I turn my second street into portrait mode, I can get a screenshot with both the posts visible!
Report detraveller October 15, 2019 3:27 PM BST
*screen
Report lfc1971 October 15, 2019 3:28 PM BST
ok detraveller , no ones fooled

I think you understand now
Report detraveller October 15, 2019 3:29 PM BST
Happy
Report lfc1971 October 15, 2019 3:31 PM BST
Now ebul and terry were wanting to blame Israel
For that long list of crimes
Committed by Saddam , against his own people ,
even his own family , in Iraq

Ebul still hasn’t explained why

Let’s see ......
Report lfc1971 October 15, 2019 3:37 PM BST
please try and not be dishonest detraveller and misquote me

Here’s what I said :

I do blame the Iraqi people ( not all but many of course)
Who then went on to murder thousands of their fellow citizens
Report lfc1971 October 15, 2019 3:39 PM BST
We are not going to get very far if we can’t be honest

That’s how wars start
Report terry mccann October 15, 2019 3:40 PM BST
IFC, I was talking right here right now not 20 years ago
Report lfc1971 October 15, 2019 3:43 PM BST
Ah , fair enough
Are you sure you haven’t blamed Israel back then as well terry ?

Very good
Report lfc1971 October 15, 2019 3:44 PM BST
Who’s fault were thise long list of crimes back then terry ,
Saddams and his fellow murderers and torturers ?
Report lfc1971 October 15, 2019 3:45 PM BST
Then we can move on to another Muslim country
If you like
Report detraveller October 15, 2019 3:55 PM BST

Oct 15, 2019 -- 3:37PM, lfc1971 wrote:


please try and not be dishonest detraveller and misquote me Here’s what I said :I do blame the Iraqi people ( not all but many of course)Who then went on to murder thousands of their fellow citizens


Did you wait for me to go offline to post that?

I clearly posted your words(even though you denied them at first and asked me to quote). I am sorry if you have trouble believing yourself. Someone with mental issues like you will have trouble with that, and I can fully appreciate that.

Report detraveller October 15, 2019 3:58 PM BST
I think I clearly won. Don't try to muddle my victory.
Report lfc1971 October 15, 2019 4:01 PM BST
Tut tut., detraveller you misquoted me

Here is what I said ;

I do blame the Iraqi people ( not all of course but many )
Who then went on to murder thousands of their fellow citizens

If you have a problem with that that’s says more about you than me

Please don’t misquote and try to distort the meaning of the sentence

No ones fooled by that
Report detraveller October 15, 2019 4:04 PM BST
Ok you win. Seriously get your brain checked lfc. Even with the full quote my point still stands.
Report lfc1971 October 15, 2019 4:06 PM BST
No , your point doesn’t make any sense

Read what I said , and try not to distort and be dishonest

That’s not good
Report detraveller October 15, 2019 4:07 PM BST
Ok i'll post the same with the full text:

lfc1971 • October 15, 2019 3:16 PM BST
Kindly point out where I have blamed the people of the Middle East

lfc1971 • October 15, 2019 3:24 PM BST
I do blame the Iraqi people ( not all of course but many )
Who then went on to murder thousands of their fellow citizens


Does the above make sense to you?
Report detraveller October 15, 2019 4:07 PM BST
Just because you say it doesn't make sense to you doesn't mean I wasn't right. I quoted you. And you still don't get what you wrote yourself. That's why I asked to get your brain checked.
Report detraveller October 15, 2019 4:07 PM BST
...if you have one.
Report detraveller October 15, 2019 4:08 PM BST
I firnly believe you do. You just haven't figured out how to use it.
Report detraveller October 15, 2019 4:08 PM BST
So please let me have this victory. I will let you win tomorrow.
Report lfc1971 October 15, 2019 4:09 PM BST
ok
Report detraveller October 15, 2019 4:09 PM BST
thanks.
Report lfc1971 October 15, 2019 4:10 PM BST
You’re welcome
Report moisok October 15, 2019 4:12 PM BST
they keep letting the rubber boat people in  - perhaps they can bring cheese and wine with them after the 31st
Report lfc1971 October 15, 2019 4:13 PM BST
Laugh
Report lfc1971 October 15, 2019 4:17 PM BST
The question is what can be done
Imo we have to go back to our own countries in the west

Trump was elected to do that , the American people are tired of the burden and who can blame them

Everywhere must ultimately take care of itself , in the end
And people must want to change ,
Report lfc1971 October 15, 2019 4:19 PM BST
That’s why I am against allowing Christian abd liberal countries , such as the U.K.
to continue with mass immigration , it’s a very dangerous road
Report moisok October 15, 2019 4:27 PM BST
2 late
Report terry mccann October 15, 2019 4:41 PM BST
The yanks have also open their doors to everyone,why? Re Saddam,he was the Americans blue,sorry brown eyed boy once,then their turned on him,thats what I know.
Report Knight Commander October 15, 2019 4:43 PM BST
What annoys me is the Navy bringing here any boatloads of migrants they find.
Should  tow the buggers back to France instead of importing them to the UK.
Report Latalomne October 15, 2019 4:45 PM BST
While there are Sunnis and Shi-ites living within spitting distance of one another, there will never be peace.
Report terry mccann October 15, 2019 4:45 PM BST
Once here only 7% are kicked out
Report casemoney October 15, 2019 9:55 PM BST
A bloke and a Women For Both Sides are Get together in a New Pop Duo




Sunny and Shyte ,you heard it hear 1st
Report terry mccann October 17, 2019 8:31 AM BST
Plan A failed to get rid of Assad,plan B  is underway.
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