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Dr Crippen
09 Oct 19 11:00
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Seems obvious to me.

Very softly softly approach, and any excuse not to act.

Make no mistake, the police could stop this pretty quickly if they were instructed to.
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Report northanlite October 9, 2019 12:32 PM BST
FYI crippen, this symbol ? is a question mark.
Report aaronh October 9, 2019 12:49 PM BST

Oct 9, 2019 -- 12:32PM, northanlite wrote:


FYI crippen, this symbol ? is a question mark.


civil disobedience against people he doesn't like (like Macron) is good but against people or governments that he supports, it is actually bad.

although he probably only supports the radical right wingers in the yellow vests but would happily have the police bash the radical left

Report edy October 9, 2019 1:56 PM BST
Brexit would've also (very likely) been implemented if MV4 with the additional concessions towards Labour had been done instead of the ERG backstabbing May at that moment because that kind of Brexit would not have screwed over folks as much as they would like.
Report edy October 9, 2019 1:58 PM BST
wrong thread, pardon me.
Report Baphornet October 9, 2019 2:34 PM BST
it won't be long before the Memantine, edy
Report impossible123 October 9, 2019 2:46 PM BST
I hope these protesters will do it every weekend just like the "yellow vests" in France - I think the government and the British people need to be constantly reminded. But, I hope they do not get militant in the process.

On the other hand the police could enter the House Of Commons en-masse to escort the self-serving MPs out of the premises for dereliction of duty, and wasting public funds.
Report jefferz October 9, 2019 2:51 PM BST
They took over Smithfield Market.Why they were allowed to do so is beyond belief.Police and government please protect legit businesses.
Simples.
Report Baphornet October 9, 2019 2:53 PM BST
Her Maj could try & do a Charles1 & give us all a smile
Report edy October 9, 2019 2:57 PM BST

Oct 9, 2019 -- 2:34PM, Baphornet wrote:


it won't be long before the Memantine, edy


Please refrain from sniping at others.

Report impossible123 October 9, 2019 2:59 PM BST
Smithfield Market is a no-no. I believe people must be given the choice of whether to eat meat or not. But, pollution and transport, yes. I hope Central London is made pedestrians only zone - no buses, taxis or motorbikes.
Report lovegod October 9, 2019 3:01 PM BST
How do businesses get deliveries to carry on trading then?
Report Baphornet October 9, 2019 3:01 PM BST
not a snipe; just a sense of humour bypass for you, edy. That comes with old age as well dear chap
Report edy October 9, 2019 3:05 PM BST

Oct 9, 2019 -- 3:01PM, Baphornet wrote:


not a snipe; just a sense of humour bypass for you, edy. That comes with old age as well dear chap


Please refrain from sniping at others.

Report Baphornet October 9, 2019 3:07 PM BST
repeating oneself. another sure sign edy
Report edy October 9, 2019 3:08 PM BST

Oct 9, 2019 -- 3:07PM, Baphornet wrote:


repeating oneself. another sure sign edy


Please do not snipe at others.

Report impossible123 October 9, 2019 3:13 PM BST
A difference in humour is usually brought upon by a difference in upbringing and other important factors eg environment, education, location, company, etc.
Report Baphornet October 9, 2019 3:15 PM BST
or one has one & the other doesn't
Report Baphornet October 9, 2019 3:19 PM BST
anyway, back to mumsnet. The lady i mentioned earlier was tucked up in a sleeping bag, & when asked why she was there replied -  "I am from a very privileged background, & instead of doing nothing, i decided to come here & stop people getting to hospital" Or words to that effect
Report tictacman1 October 9, 2019 3:36 PM BST
Now in its third day, the protests - which activists plan to continue for two weeks - have seen nearly 600 people arrested.
Report Baphornet October 9, 2019 3:39 PM BST
any sign of Khan?
Report terry mccann October 9, 2019 3:42 PM BST
Have a watch of "Princeton Professor Freeman Dyson; Carbon Dioxide stops the world starving and reducing it would be VERY HARMFUL" to humans and wildlife"

So the Elite behind all this crap don't know that? Of course they doDevil
Report Foinavon October 9, 2019 3:46 PM BST
This is The Religion of Trees. No one is allowed to criticise their sacred texts or their supreme leader, St Greta.
Report terry mccann October 9, 2019 3:49 PM BST
But they do Foinavon, they don't blame the kid just the people behind the brainwashing
Report terry mccann October 9, 2019 3:54 PM BST
The mystery to me is,how some people can fall for this monumental b0llocks, Its been raining,its getting colder and its October,just like every October ive ever known,what the hell are they going on about?
Report edy October 9, 2019 3:55 PM BST
weather != climate
Report edy October 9, 2019 3:56 PM BST
Your Freeman Dyson doesn't seem to deny that CO2 from human activity causes global warming btw.
Report terry mccann October 9, 2019 3:59 PM BST
Is it hotter then usual for the time of year in Hades Edy then? Same old sh1tty October weather here as I said
Report Injera October 9, 2019 4:49 PM BST
The latest propaganda from the BBC :'Almost 400 all-time high temperatures were set in the northern hemisphere over the summer, according to an analysis of temperature records.'

Take a note of this gem! 'The data included measurements from weather stations in the northern hemisphere that had at least 40 years of observations.' 

And this false claim: 'France set an all-time high-temperature of 46C,'

- How can it be an all time high if records only go back 40 years and at most 150??

How about this...'There are more weather stations in the United States and Europe, meaning that a heatwave in those areas has the potential to break more records.' Grin

And the best saved till last...global temperature rise: 'Globally it was marginally warmer - by 0.04 degrees Celsius (0.072 Fahrenheit) - than the previous hottest month on record, July 2016. '

So they start with a fear inducing headline and end with that beauty. 0.04Grin

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-49753680
Report Charlie October 9, 2019 5:05 PM BST
Don't forget to quote the important bits:

Almost 400 all-time high temperatures were set in the northern hemisphere over the summer, according to an analysis of temperature records.

The records were broken in 29 countries for the period from 1 May to 30 August this year.

A third of the all-time high temperatures were in Germany, followed by France and the Netherlands.

The analysis was carried out by the California-based climate institute Berkeley Earth.

Over the summer, there were 1,200 instances of places in the northern hemisphere being the hottest they'd ever been in a given month.
Report Charlie October 9, 2019 5:09 PM BST
Scientists say it's the latest sign that Earth is experiencing unprecedented warming.

The scorching July heatwave that hit Europe was made both more likely and more intense by human-induced climate change, scientists reported.

A study reported that warming increased the intensity of the event that impacted the UK, France and the Netherlands by between 1.5 and 3C.

"This July 2019 heatwave was so extreme over continental Western Europe that the observed magnitudes would have been extremely unlikely without climate change," said Dr Friederike Otto, acting director of the Environmental Change Institute at the University of Oxford, and one of the authors of that report.

The heatwave in France was made at least 10 times and up to 100 times more likely by human activities.

In the UK, the shorter event was made at least three times as likely, experts said.
Report Dr Crippen October 9, 2019 5:23 PM BST
^^Fake news - all made up.
Report terry mccann October 9, 2019 5:24 PM BST
7 hot days and the rest average and they will tell us it was the 3rd or 4th hottest year on record, a trick they have used for years now we know why-for this monumental lie. "We can stop climate change but we will have to take this or that away from you" Lets see what they have planned for us.
Report Injera October 9, 2019 5:24 PM BST
The Government today took the extraordinary step of calling in 500 officers from 43 other police forces in England and Wales as they try to round up the Extinction Rebellion mob bringing chaos to the centre of the capital.

Scotland Yard has been accused of 'standing around the edges' as up to 30,000 people flooded central London - making around 580 arrests in the past two days.

XR members have also taken a vow to refuse bail in bid to fill London's 700 police cells - with 5,000 people said to have pledged to be arrested.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7553601/Police-fail-clear-Extinctio...
Report Dr Crippen October 9, 2019 5:29 PM BST
Where do they find all these loons from to go on protests. What are they handing out free cannabis or something?
Report Dr Crippen October 9, 2019 5:32 PM BST
Overtime bonanza for the police in prospect, at least they'll be happy.
Report terry mccann October 9, 2019 5:34 PM BST
A mixture of crisis actors and brain deads
Report Injera October 9, 2019 5:48 PM BST
Charlie - we've become a town/city based population. Urbanisation equals vast infrastructure and bigger towns and cities.

Where there are more buildings there's more heat. So why are we building??

Would ANY protestor call for a pause in infrastructure/housing etc? Would ANY of them call for a pause in immigration which adds to bigger towns and cities?

Nope. I've yet to hear ANYONE call for this. In fact they call for the opposite: Open borders, unlimited immigration and therefore unlimited infrastructure.
Report Dr Crippen October 9, 2019 5:50 PM BST
You can't reason with them Injera, they're all loonies.
Report Charlie October 9, 2019 5:56 PM BST
Injera
Are you really trying to say the people protesting about climate change believe in open borders, unlimited immigration and therefore unlimited infrastructure? Just so I know.
Report Injera October 9, 2019 5:58 PM BST
Well if they want to reduce carbon emissions in the UK it would certainly help!!!!
Report Charlie October 9, 2019 6:02 PM BST
That's not an answer to my question.
Report aaronh October 9, 2019 6:10 PM BST

Oct 9, 2019 -- 5:56PM, Charlie wrote:


InjeraAre you really trying to say the people protesting about climate change believe in open borders, unlimited immigration and therefore unlimited infrastructure? Just so I know.


It's much easier to attack a strawman as all the reactionaries show on here

Report Injera October 9, 2019 6:11 PM BST
You can deflect all you like.

If ACM protestors want the UK to reduce carbon emissions I suggest they call for a pause in immigration and infrastructure development.

It's basic. More people = more building = more carbon.
Report Charlie October 9, 2019 6:23 PM BST
I'm note sure what you mean by ACM protesters. It's not just a London based protest it's world-wide.
Report terry mccann October 9, 2019 6:31 PM BST
You live somewhere in the UK chaz,so what climate change have you noticed ?
Report Charlie October 9, 2019 6:33 PM BST
Injera
Plus if you have any evidence, whatsoever, that immigration causes climate change I'd like to see it. You can't be saying that there is no climate change and then immigration causes it.
Report Charlie October 9, 2019 6:35 PM BST

Oct 9, 2019 -- 6:31PM, terry mccann wrote:


You live somewhere in the UK chaz,so what climate change have you noticed ?


Is there something difficultly for you understanding the phrase climate change? It's not actually climate change happening in tm's back garden is it.

Report terry mccann October 9, 2019 6:36 PM BST
As I thought-nowt
Report Charlie October 9, 2019 6:39 PM BST
Any sign of 5G in your back garden tm? Thought not. Proves it's not real according to your twisted logic. Which it's not.
Report Charlie October 9, 2019 6:42 PM BST
I suppose I should rewrite that to say:

Any sign of harmful effects of 5G in your back garden tm? Thought not. Proves it's not dangerous according to your twisted logic. Which it's not.
Report Injera October 9, 2019 8:12 PM BST
Anthropogenic Climate Change which is the correct term. ACM.

Of course mass immigration to the UK = higher carbon emissions.

The ACM protestors are focusing on the UK. In the UK we have mass immigration which demands more housing and general infrastructure. These people will often return regulary to their EU nations by air.

Higher UK population = higher carbon footprint.
Report Injera October 9, 2019 8:24 PM BST
In 2017 165m air passengers flew between the UK and other EU member states.

Not all to do with immigration of course but even so...

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documents/2995521/9428738/7-06122018-AP-EN.pdf/50a52d8d-3f61-4517-ace3-d3f56ed5cd91
Report Coachbuster October 9, 2019 9:03 PM BST
avoid charcoal slippers imo ...  huge carbon footprints
Report terry mccann October 10, 2019 2:02 PM BST
If carbon dioxide is so bad for the planet,why do greenhouse growers buy CO2 generators to double plant growth?
Report Dr Crippen October 10, 2019 3:48 PM BST
I don't know why we even bother discussing it with the loons they're so stupid.
Report terry mccann October 10, 2019 4:08 PM BST
Bloody liars Doc
Report terry mccann October 10, 2019 4:23 PM BST
Doc have a read of "CLIMATE AND THE MONEY TRAIL" its exactly what you would expect it to be.
Report Dr Crippen October 10, 2019 4:40 PM BST
That explains why the police have been told to adopt a softly softly approach towards climate change loons terry.

They need the publicity from the climate change suckers, to justify implementation of their latest economic policy which depends on people accepting the climate change con.

There's big money driving it, with big payouts at the end. They're not going to let the truth stand in their way now.
Report terry mccann October 10, 2019 4:46 PM BST
And I say to myself what a wonderful worldSad
Report Dr Crippen October 10, 2019 6:15 PM BST
All they need is another video of the ice breaking off and crashing into the sea, with Attenborough doing the commentary to get the loons going again.

They conveniently forget that the ice has been doing that for hundreds of years. What do they think sunk the Titanic?
Report Reynard October 10, 2019 6:38 PM BST
LBC reporter has just claimed that ".......the last of the protesters have just started to melt away" Confused
Report Dr Crippen October 10, 2019 6:44 PM BST
^Lol.
Report moisok October 10, 2019 7:14 PM BST
Common Purpose gives you the clue
Report conditor October 10, 2019 7:59 PM BST
Crippens 16.40 point nailed it, open your eyes people
Report moisok October 10, 2019 8:20 PM BST
I see the guardian is right behind the disruption.
Report conditor October 10, 2019 8:27 PM BST
jump once I a while chap ,it will make you, we all like to be liked
Report moisok October 10, 2019 10:34 PM BST
you do not want to have watched tonight's bbc news 10pm onwards  virtually backing XR

The police simply have given up enforcing the law.  You only have to see and hear the GOLD commander to get the agenda
Common Purpose has done its work
Report casemoney October 11, 2019 12:49 AM BST
The Old Solar Panels , Install them , You will save thousands  and Help the Planet , People have done their Conkers Laugh
Report casemoney October 11, 2019 12:54 AM BST
The Panels installed Years back are Shyte ,20 year Life span saved people SWEET F.A  another 10 years will be tons of scrap to get rid of Laugh
Report casemoney October 11, 2019 12:57 AM BST
Electric Cars  BILLIONS of batteries will need to be Got rid of  , Whats inside them ??
Report aaronh October 11, 2019 7:26 AM BST

Oct 10, 2019 -- 4:40PM, Dr Crippen wrote:


That explains why the police have been told to adopt a softly softly approach towards climate change loons terry.They need the publicity from the climate change suckers, to justify implementation of their latest economic policy which depends on people accepting the climate change con.There's big money driving it, with big payouts at the end. They're not going to let the truth stand in their way now.


Of course, there is no big money and financial incentives for those who take the opposite side

Report Dr Crippen October 11, 2019 9:40 AM BST
Glad you agree with the accusation aaronh.

And agree we're being taken for a ride for the purpose of profit.
Report lfc1971 October 11, 2019 9:45 AM BST
They aren’t the ones causing trouble, make sure a few thousand of these protesters , especially the high profile ones , are given a criminal conviction
Report lfc1971 October 11, 2019 9:47 AM BST
Start with cumberbatch , or whatever his name is
That will get him banned from travelling to America
Report lfc1971 October 11, 2019 9:50 AM BST
* the ones who take the opposite view to the climate change hoaxers are not the ones causing the trouble
Report lfc1971 October 11, 2019 9:55 AM BST
ps the protesters in Hong Kong are admirable
Report Dr Crippen October 11, 2019 9:58 AM BST
I agree with lfc, the police and the courts are treating them far too lightly.

I heard it takes four coppers to carry one of these berks and dump then in the van.
Surely it should only take two at most to drag them, and a dig in the ribs with a baton wouldn't do any harm either.
And how many have been tasered, surely if you obstruct the police that is grounds for them to use a taser.
Not on the vulnerable of course, just the gobby know-alls who can't shut up.
Report lfc1971 October 11, 2019 10:03 AM BST
Laugh absolutely
Report conditor October 11, 2019 10:08 AM BST
The word distraction springs to mind Crazy
Report lfc1971 October 11, 2019 10:15 AM BST
nice word , bring in the water cannons
Report conditor October 11, 2019 10:20 AM BST
Choice, another good word  lfc
Report Nebs October 11, 2019 10:22 AM BST
When the protest is over, and it's time for them all to go home, block them in and keep them there for a week. See how they like it.
Report lfc1971 October 11, 2019 10:25 AM BST
ok conditor , make it recycled water
Report casemoney October 11, 2019 10:29 AM BST
They all appear to have a Few quid why dont they they Travel to States , China and India to raise these Protests , can you imagine these Tw@ts Blocking freeways LaughThe Yanks would Run them over ,,

As for China or India they would get the Absolute Shyte battered out of them ...

Why is it Down to UK to lead the way in Climate Change , IT IS NOT our contribution is Minimal , If there is a fire

Throw the water on it Not a million miles away , Now fook off and do us all a favour ,We have Brexit to sort out Laugh

And get  a shower You must be fooking Wreaking Laugh
Report conditor October 11, 2019 10:29 AM BST
And give em Facebook, home from home
Report casemoney October 11, 2019 10:31 AM BST
Whats About Russia , MOSCOW Blocking all the Roads Laugh BATTERED LOCKED UP , and half probably never seen again Shocked
Report conditor October 11, 2019 10:39 AM BST
Russia is a figment of your imagination ,implanted on your brain, let me guess tv,radio ? Nonsense
Report lfc1971 October 11, 2019 10:44 AM BST
That’s true conditor I’ve just looked out the window and Russia isn’t there

In fact I don’t see anything out of the ordinary
Report conditor October 11, 2019 10:48 AM BST
As I chap Crazy
Report aaronh October 11, 2019 12:31 PM BST

Oct 11, 2019 -- 9:40AM, Dr Crippen wrote:


Glad you agree with the accusation aaronh.And agree we're being taken for a ride for the purpose of profit.


there is big money on both sides, much like many of these causes.

unless big businesses have a long history of supporting something, you can't take much more from it than they want to make money.

interesting though that the accusation by some is that this is a means to pursue a more left wing economic agenda/high taxation. I don't think big business and the rich and powerful are very supportive of that.

Report conditor October 11, 2019 1:24 PM BST
Man walks on a plane,really last week I couldn’t get orange juice on one
Report Injera October 11, 2019 5:21 PM BST
The Met has handed out a record number of vegan meals to prisoners after arresting more than 1,100 Extinction Rebellion activists this week, MailOnline can reveal today.

Scotland Yard has had pallets of meat-free dishes and dairy-free drinks delivered to its police stations amid an influx of detainees following eco-protests across London.

Inspector Brian Smith of Brixton station revealed the force had ordered in extra vegan portions after activists moaned about a lack of meat-free options in April.

In a video posted to social media, Inspector Smith said: 'Well everyone knows we ran a bit low last time so this time we've got plenty.

'In fact yesterday a pallet load of vegan food was delivered so we've got plenty for everyone.'

Can't make this stuff up Cry

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7563335/Met-Police-brag-ordering-re...
Report HGS October 11, 2019 5:34 PM BST
Good grief! Cry
Report UBLE/REGY October 11, 2019 8:39 PM BST
I can understand police sympathy for their cause?

But not perhaps their methods?????

Antarctica is fine

The Arctic is melting, less land mass, first victim Polar Bears, they must hunt on land

But we fear an overall rise is sea levels, which would endanger some countries in coastal regions

Whether this will actually happen, I have no idea myself?
Report UBLE/REGY October 11, 2019 8:44 PM BST
One thing that is not mentioned

is the increase in the human population

More people means more energy needs

I do wonder about the true motive here
Report terry mccann October 11, 2019 8:48 PM BST
Spraying heavy metals worldwide must help the climate,they are almost ready to" fire it up"
Report BennyBinion1 October 11, 2019 9:15 PM BST
Loads at Liverpool St this afternoon, blocking the roads, buses and traffic chaos.

Noticed the filth bags all have the top quality rainwear and rucksacks though.

All minted up for sure.
Report moisok October 11, 2019 11:39 PM BST
polar bear population has been growing for years

the idea is was declining is a LIE
Report trilby22 October 12, 2019 12:14 AM BST
There's plenty of financial backing for these extinct rebels Wink Wouldn't surprise me if the vegan meals were served by waiters with champagne.
Report Injera October 12, 2019 10:13 AM BST
Should have given them Mr Brain's F aggots instead. Eat or go hungry.

Once the word got out there would be fewer arrests.
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