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My mate no longer supports Team GB
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so your ancestry does not count then? you should reprecent the country of your ancestry exceptions for mixed race they one from the two
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Anyhow, the problem, if there is a problem in football, is at club level, not International level. Seems club fans don't feel there is a problem, so it's all a whole lot of nothing
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if you've moved and had a significant amount of schooling in that country fine but do have problems with adults qualifying for another country after 2 or 3 years residency. that's ludicrous really
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Club sport totally different. International sport is about the best of one country playing the best from another.
Morgan is Irish and quit Ireland because they didn't play test cricket at the time. The ICC should never have allowed it. Rankin played for Ireland, England then Ireland. Pathetic. It's well documented about Lamb, Smith, Pietersen and Trott. Zola Budd? Embarrassing. Hick? Same. Declan Rice played 2 friendlies for the Republic and kissed the badge. Career move which should never have been allowed. Asher - Smith however is as English as roast beef and a credit to this country.  |
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Guys I really do not know how this thread has turned into another Betfair forum race thread. It seems the Left have yet again been looking to stir-up trouble. Why do they love conflict? Anyway I need to stress the point that my mate is himself Black. Please do not fall for the Leftist race baiting.
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If the main core of your team is English then I think it represnts England. If the balance is made up of close affiliates such as someone with an English grandparent, or a refugee then that's fair enough too.
It wasn't that long ago that you had to be born and bred in Yorkshire to be able to play for them. If you play for Liverpool you are representing Liverpool and English teams in Europe. That's a distinction you make. It's not one I make. There have been plenty of occasions when English teams have fielded no English players. That crosses the line for me. England having 22 English players and say Mikel Arteta a problem? Seriously? when English teams in Europe have fielded 11 foreign players? As for Declan Rice he has an Irish grandparent. He's English with an Irish affiliation. He'd have been tapped up by Ireland at a young age and I dare say had FIFA rules been different, he'd never have played those friendlies. It's fair enough imo if he wasn't good enough to play for England, to play for Ireland because he has an affiliation there, but he is undoubtedly English. Had he been born and bred in Ireland, with an English grandparent, and switched from Ireland to England, then I could see why the Irish would be upset, and the player's character called into question, but that's not the case. |
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When managers try to create a good International sports team, they always look for the best players.
If they see a good player and know there is a way he can qualify for playing for our country they will take him. |
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I need to stress the point that my mate is himself Black.
Brilliant Steve, I've got a mate as well who doesn't support Team GB anymore. And he's blind. |
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Most fans only want to see England or Britain win
They do not look too closely into the provenance of all our players, but assume it must be legal by some definition. Our football league teams are even worse...last year English league teams dominated Europe How many English players in our teamss? looked more like a foreign legion at times. Still if people demand a much higher level of provenance, that is fine with me each to their own. |
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Dr Crippen07 Oct 19 20:04 I need to stress the point that my mate is himself Black. Brilliant Steve, I've got a mate as well who doesn't support Team GB anymore. And he's blind. REPORTED....lying |
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Is this the thread where all the racists unite to spout their bigotry?
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Watching England is just not the same anymore
Steve Voltage Steve Voltage 07 Jun 18 21:44 Joined: 23 May 09 | Topic/replies: 3,240 | Blogger: Steve Voltage's blog Not sure why. I just carnt relate to the players like I used to. It’s like there is no connection. Boring even. wonder what it will be next year  |
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No mention of his mate
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Jackson Hastings just won Rugby league man of steel (subject of publicised Hills betting dispute) just been picked for Great Britain,doubt he'd set foot in this country before signing for Salford in July 18,qualifies through a Grandmother born in Plymouth.
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I always find that youtube film of 68 London clears my head when debating these issues
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I think the good times are not so much over but at set to subside somewhat at next years games in Tokyo, it's been a sharp upward trajectory ever since bombing in Atlanta 96 but our medal haul is set to drop quite a bit, projection around 43 medals which is a drop of 24 from Rio! Sounds to me like your friend caught wind of this and is jumping ship
 we have been spoiled really ever since Sydney, even finished 2nd 4 years ago in the table in front of China and behind America who are glued to the top, to go from 1 Gold and just 15 medals in 1996 to 29 golds and 65 medals in London was some feat. Wonder who'll the flag bearer will be this time, maybe Dina Asher-Smith or Johnson-Thompson? |
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It won't be either of those two. Depends who is competing and when, but they'd need to have won Olympic medals in the past which neither of those two have done. Jade Jones, having won gold at the previous 2 Olympics, would have a leading chance, if she's there.
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Adam Peaty for the closing ceremony flag bearer.
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Jade Jones won world gold in 2019 so imagine she will be there injury permitting
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Mark Foster was the flag bearer for Britain in Beijing in 2008 and he never won an Olympic medal, think KJT and Dina have a chance
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Mark Foster was the most experienced GB swimmer of all time. His was a lifetime achievement gig. Redgrave (twice) Chris Hoy and Andy Murray surround him. I don't know who should be fave. but Jade Jones has very solid credentials, so until I hear a better suggestion I'd say she is. She's female and Welsh (can't see anyone from Wales being given the honour yet).
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Peaty, Jade Jones, Laura Trott, Alistair Brownlee and Max Whitlock? are names that spring to mind to me as the obvious contenders
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but you said they had to have won Olympic medals?
Lucinda Green never won Olympic medals either pre 1984, she went onto win silver in the same games however agree that Mark Foster was very deserving though. don't think having won an Olympic medal is a official criteria, think it's someone who is just fitting, KJT is the British record holder in Heptathlon now, has won Golds in Worlds, worlds and European indoors and Commonwealth and will be a genuine contender for Olympic Gold. They built Jess Ennis as the poster girl of 2012 games as an heptathlon athlete, every chance they could do the same in Tokyo? |
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Brownlee a good shout, maybe they could break with protocol and have the Brownlee brothers!
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think all the sports nominate someone and then the team management decide. be surprising though if wasn't a previous olympic champion. it's not like GB have any shortage of recent candidates
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also depends who's gonna be there for the opening ceremony and when their competition is. someone competing on opening weekend prob wouldn't be considered and those say in the 2nd week might not even be in japan for the kick off
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