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What mandate does parliament have to prevent Brexit ?
What mandate does parliament have to prevent Brexit ?
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The PM is head of parliament and he and the Queen act for the people ,Parliament was acting against the people who voted in good faith in a legally held referendum .
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You can't just close down Parliament because you don't like how they're voting. That's why it was found unlawful.
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A referendum has no legal basis. All it is is an expression of what people would like. Government, Parliament can just say fck that if they want. Politically it would be a bad move but legally ok.
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I disagree but that’s not the point of the thread ,although the fact remains ,prorogation is lawful but the law lords in their supreme knowledge decided that the prorogation was done incorrectly (I think ) .Parliament was not shut down or suspended it was prorogued ,can’t stress this point enough . And it was prorogued to prevent the people being rode over roughshod .I think BJ will try another way and succeed for what it’s worth ,all will become clear imo as to why the Supreme Court ruled the way they did and suspect there is a few good reasons . And bye the way I respect the Supreme Courts decision 100% absolutely .
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Charlie you started out saying one thing and now your onto another and in full waffle ,please give it a rest bud
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You can't disagree over whether referendums are legally binding in the UK as they aren't.
Parliament wasn't prorogued. Remember Bercow saying that? Supreme Court said it was unlawful. So my posts are waffle but your's are superb apart from when you get your facts wrong? |
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I get the message I wont bother.
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People wanting Boris to apologise for breaking the law. There was no such law when he did it. The Supreme Court have only just deemed it so. Or am I missing summat?
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In case he missed it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHlmtEKqXLw
Parliament was not shut down or suspended it was prorogued ,can’t stress this point enough You really should stress this point more. |
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So there it is a referendum can be legally binding ,but this one was not ,hence my saying your waffling ,making statements that are incorrect and making out the power of a referendum in the U.K. is worthless when this is not simple not true Charlie ,try and be more accurate please .
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Ok, I'll change it to not generally legally binding. I'll try and be more accurate. The last one wasn't legally binding as you said.
You said they were legally binding. You also said Parliament was prorogued. So you can apologies for waffling. |
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No I never ,I said a lawful referendum
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I'll try and write that in English. You said referendums in the UK were legally binding. In general they aren't inducing the 1975 one and this one.
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I would not use the term legally binding as I know it was not ,hence my earlier post and what I want to expand this thread on ,”Parliament” (the three house ) know and knew the referendum was non binding ,were the law lords part of that process and if not who acted for the people in this process ,it had to pass through the lords and get two readings in parliament ,who in the entire process considered the wishes of the people ?
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The only two people I can see that have acted in good faith are the PM and H.M Queen Elizabeth
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The Queen is irrelevant in this. The PM has certainly not acted in good faith. He's trying to bluff and bluster his way through this for his own ends not the good of the nation. He tried to close up shop for six weeks to get his own way and avoid debate. There are very many brighter people in the houses than him. Stifle debate, become a dictator and fck democracy.
Watching footy now, |
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It was not legally binding in the same way as the Scottish referendum was not legally binding
Why not ? Because it would be unthinkable for parliament to overturn it Or at least that’s what we thought Britain was like |
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Now can you imagine what might happen if Scotland votes for independence
And Parliament says no , it’s not going to happen Vote again |
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Now we know the sort of dishonest individuals remainers are ,
Don’t trust people like that , they don’t deserve to be trusted |
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When we voted in the referendum no one said at the time it was advisory
This only came into play after the remainers lost They’re like that , that’s all you need to know when they start waffling about it not being binding They’re bad losers and liars in truth |
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And he never tried to close up shop ,he PROROGUED Parliament .Nor was it for six weeks ,not anything like it ,nor is the HM Queen Elizabeth irrelevant .
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Now hurry up and quote me or move along chap
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lfc1971
It was not legally binding in the same way as the Scottish referendum was not legally binding Why not ? Because it would be unthinkable for parliament to overturn it Or at least that’s what we thought Britain was like Excellent point lfc. Nailed it. |
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Can you imagine some clown after Scotland vote for independence ( if they do )
Saying sorry it’s not fking happening , go away it’s advisory It’s amazing the sh1te remainers pretend to believe |
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Lfc spot on.
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that might be a first from detraveller , to me
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fooo ! I can’t be rude to you if you’re going to be nice detraveller :)
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What a mess we have made of this , but make no mistake where the blame lies
And it’s with the Labour Party , the libdems , and each and any remainer who tries to overturn that democratic vote If that happens it will be the most disgraceful episode in Britain’s long history And the damage cannot be repaired |
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Yes ,nice points Trilby and lfc ,just to add the entire hard/soft Brexit was invented by the remaniacts upon realising defeat
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As soon as the referendum result was known there shouldn’t have been any remainers in Britain
Not one |
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Now ? We should leave on Oct 31
Three and a bit years too late |
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We voted the wrong way in the referendum lfc1971 as far as Parliament were concerned
They think we are better staying in....so they are trying to find anyway they can to avoid Brexit Another referendum would do it, but is hardly democratic. |
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just to add the entire hard/soft Brexit was invented by the remaniacts upon realising defeat
And they've been milking the Leavers ever since. You can't deny that they've done a good job of it and will eventually succeed. |
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Not that difficult really detraveller when probably 3/4 of the house are remainers. And thats before we get to the House Of Lords & Supreme Court which is even heavier balanced towards remain.
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No disrespect to anyone on here but from a european natve why dont you just feck off ?
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