Sep 26, 2019 -- 10:54AM, trilby22 wrote:

"No deal" is a bargaining chip.  How thick do people have to be not to understand that very basic rule of striking a proper deal?

The primary, and only really, additional bargaining power that no-deal provides is empathy, mercy. Sadly, the EU is a merciless, ruthless monster.

"Oh hey, I'm going to really, really harm myself a lot more than need be while you're merely scratched, if at all" ain't a great bargaining tool with that kind of negotiation partner. No-deal's entire perceived power is banking on the EU having mercy.

Sep 26, 2019 -- 9:53AM, n88uk wrote:

I mean the sort of bile we heard from Boris last night is normally what you get in like Daily Mail comments section, but it's norm just in those places, you do not expect such obvious stoking division from the PM of the country.

oooo surrender, that word hurt my feelings, get outside in the real world you pathetic hermit

Sep 26, 2019 -- 11:24AM, HGS wrote:

Whatever  you say Edy

Don't worry about it HGS, it's just typical Remoaner denial tactics, twisting, distorting and mis-representing facts to support their own biased narrative. Similar to when they claim to be on the side of democracy whilst at the same time opposing the biggest democratic vote in the history of our country.  Truth of the matter is that a no-deal Brexit would do significant damage to the European Union affecting jobs and supply chains across the world. The fact is that the threat of a no-deal gives the UK considerable leverage in negotiations and taking it off the table is tantamount to surrender.

Here's a short excerpt from a report from the Halle Institute of Economic Research …..

A disorderly withdrawal of the United Kingdom from the European Union (EU) would impact many of the world's economies. As a recent study by the Halle Institute for Economic Research (IWH) based on data for 43 countries shows, a total of more than 600,000 jobs could suffer the consequences of a hard Brexit. In absolute numbers Germany would be hit the hardest, with more than 100,000 jobs affected, followed by China (just under 60,000) and France (around 50,000) as well as Poland and Italy (around 46,000 jobs each). The shortage of skilled labour in many developed economies suggests that companies may try to keep their staff by, for example, reducing working hours or opening up new markets.



Full report is below …

https://www.iwh-halle.de/nc/en/press/press-releases/detail/no-deal-brexit-would-hit-the-german-labour-market-particularly-hard/

Sep 26, 2019 -- 11:58AM, k sera sera wrote:

Sep 26, 2019 --  5:24PM, HGS wrote:Whatever  you say EdyDon't worry about it HGS, it's just typical Remoaner denial tactics, twisting, distorting and mis-representing facts to support their own biased narrative. Similar to when they claim to be on the side of democracy whilst at the same time opposing the biggest democratic vote in the history of our country.  Truth of the matter is that a no-deal Brexit would do significant damage to the European Union affecting jobs and supply chains across the world. The fact is that the threat of a no-deal gives the UK considerable leverage in negotiations and taking it off the table is tantamount to surrender. Here's a short excerpt from a report from the Halle Institute of Economic Research …..A disorderly withdrawal of the United Kingdom from the European Union (EU) would impact many of the world's economies. As a recent study by the Halle Institute for Economic Research (IWH) based on data for 43 countries shows, a total of more than 600,000 jobs could suffer the consequences of a hard Brexit. In absolute numbers Germany would be hit the hardest, with more than 100,000 jobs affected, followed by China (just under 60,000) and France (around 50,000) as well as Poland and Italy (around 46,000 jobs each). The shortage of skilled labour in many developed economies suggests that companies may try to keep their staff by, for example, reducing working hours or opening up new markets. Full report is below …https://www.iwh-halle.de/nc/en/press/press-releases/detail/no-deal-brexit-would-hit-the-german-labour-market-particularly-hard/

How very,very convenient of you to choose a study that didn't research the lost UK employment to counter my argument that the UK would be affected far worse. A mere oversight from you, no doubt.