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23 Sep 19
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Interested on how I can tackle this, going forward.
Cut a long intro story short, I've got an extensive criminal record which obviously/deservedly precludes me from ever having a proper job. Anyway, I got a job, through a mate, in the steel industry in SOUTH WALES and was made redundant in late 2017 because of steel prices. Since then, I do the same job, somewhat irregularly, via an agency.
I digress. They instruct me, by text, to work 11pm Sunday to 7am this morning. I turn up and they say it's an agency error and they don't need me. Because of my undeserved drink driving ban, I'm stranded 15 miles from my house at 11:15pm on a Sunday night. I return home, at a loss of ~£17, at about 2am.
She texts me again, asking me to work the Monday/Tuesday night shift, to which I agree. Then asks me to work the Monday afternoon shift at about 10am, which is impossible; because I haven't slept and am drunk. The she starts victim blaming me, because I should have confirmed at 9pm on Sunday night that the shift was a go-er.
This is a total farce. They have also lost my ID/documents and failed to send them to a 3rd party who deal with pay roll.
Should I ask for some kind of compensation? I think I've very clearly been wronged here.
Cut a long intro story short, I've got an extensive criminal record which obviously/deservedly precludes me from ever having a proper job. Anyway, I got a job, through a mate, in the steel industry in SOUTH WALES and was made redundant in late 2017 because of steel prices. Since then, I do the same job, somewhat irregularly, via an agency.
I digress. They instruct me, by text, to work 11pm Sunday to 7am this morning. I turn up and they say it's an agency error and they don't need me. Because of my undeserved drink driving ban, I'm stranded 15 miles from my house at 11:15pm on a Sunday night. I return home, at a loss of ~£17, at about 2am.
She texts me again, asking me to work the Monday/Tuesday night shift, to which I agree. Then asks me to work the Monday afternoon shift at about 10am, which is impossible; because I haven't slept and am drunk. The she starts victim blaming me, because I should have confirmed at 9pm on Sunday night that the shift was a go-er.
This is a total farce. They have also lost my ID/documents and failed to send them to a 3rd party who deal with pay roll.
Should I ask for some kind of compensation? I think I've very clearly been wronged here.
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Not trying to "net" anyone mush. I'm still a human being and have rights.
Sep 23, 2019 -- 2:24PM, detraveller wrote:
More holes in that story than...
Tell me the "holes" and I'll almost certainly explain then for you.
I might be an idiot but I can remember my own life
It's the extras that make me sceptical, rather than any holes. IF genuine, I apologise.
My advice https://youtu.be/nGJShBe9cKo
My advice https://youtu.be/nGJShBe9cKo
Sep 23, 2019 -- 2:36PM, Mikael D'Haguenet wrote:
It's the extras that make me sceptical, rather than any holes. IF genuine, I apologise. My advice https://youtu.be/nGJShBe9cKo
That rebuttal is very vague. Just be specific, nail your colours to the mast.
I, for one, am in favour of workers rights. Some just want to troll, I suppose.
Ok, I'll play...
Why mention your extensive criminal record? Doesn't seem relevant.
In what way was your drink-drive ban undeserved?
How did you travel 15 miles in 2.75 hours and why did this cost you £17?
Why had you not slept between arriving home and 10am the following day?
If you've been working for them since 2017, how have they been paying you?
Why mention your extensive criminal record? Doesn't seem relevant.
In what way was your drink-drive ban undeserved?
How did you travel 15 miles in 2.75 hours and why did this cost you £17?
Why had you not slept between arriving home and 10am the following day?
If you've been working for them since 2017, how have they been paying you?
I'm shocked---always thought you were a pro poker player.
It's possible that you might of been in the past and it got more difficult year by year.
It's possible that you might of been in the past and it got more difficult year by year.
2:52
1. It explains why I have to do these [i****[/i] jobs.
2. I wasn't drunk but was over the limit when pulled, having been drinking the night before.
3. I was with another guy in the same situation. He knew a mate/taxi driver and we walked about 2 hours and were driven the rest of the way.
4. I just don't sleep well.
5. I worked for them since 2015, 1 agency recently went bust and the new one is causing me these problems.
JML, I am a profitable poker player, but not to the extent that I can do it for a living. It sure does get harder year on year though.
1. It explains why I have to do these [i****[/i] jobs.
2. I wasn't drunk but was over the limit when pulled, having been drinking the night before.
3. I was with another guy in the same situation. He knew a mate/taxi driver and we walked about 2 hours and were driven the rest of the way.
4. I just don't sleep well.
5. I worked for them since 2015, 1 agency recently went bust and the new one is causing me these problems.
JML, I am a profitable poker player, but not to the extent that I can do it for a living. It sure does get harder year on year though.
Hi Richie hope you're getting the good looking sheep these days.
When you say: she starts victim blaming me, because I should have confirmed at 9pm on Sunday night that the shift was a go-er. was that for the Sunday night shift? I.e. did you just turn up for the Sunday night shift without confirming that you would?
When you say: she starts victim blaming me, because I should have confirmed at 9pm on Sunday night that the shift was a go-er. was that for the Sunday night shift? I.e. did you just turn up for the Sunday night shift without confirming that you would?
All sheep look the same from behind....
I think I've written that badly now I read it again. The shift was offered and I agreed. To my mind, there should be no further confirmation from my end.
I'll try and screen dump the messages and post them, I'm not sure how to to do it though, so no promises.
I think I've written that badly now I read it again. The shift was offered and I agreed. To my mind, there should be no further confirmation from my end.
I'll try and screen dump the messages and post them, I'm not sure how to to do it though, so no promises.
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It says this on google but it just doesn't work, I've had this phone for a while but I've never saved a screen shot to the photo gallery.
It says this on google but it just doesn't work, I've had this phone for a while but I've never saved a screen shot to the photo gallery.
Sep 23, 2019 -- 3:50PM, woundedknee wrote:
w@nker Taffy Peasant
Well, I'm no moral lodestar but you will all have to take my word for this then. I've been on here for years and don't have a reputation as a liar or whatever.
Agency: Hi guys booking in Sunday night shifts please can you confirm you are available 11pm to 6am many thanks
Me: Where is it please?
Agency: In treforest
Me: That's fine. Thanks.
Agency: Hi guys booking in Sunday night shifts please can you confirm you are available 11pm to 6am many thanks
Me: Where is it please?
Agency: In treforest
Me: That's fine. Thanks.
What times were involved?
Do they have a rule where you have to confirm two hours before the sift that you will be there?
Do they have a rule where you have to confirm two hours before the sift that you will be there?
Sep 23, 2019 -- 2:31PM, Richie_Burnett wrote:
Sep 23, 2019 -- 2:24PM, detraveller wrote:More holes in that story than...Tell me the "holes" and I'll almost certainly explain then for you.I might be an idiot but I can remember my own life
You come back home at 2pm and get a text from work asking you to work Monday morning 10am.
You say you can't work that early coz your drunk but when and how did you get drunk when you came back home at 2?
Also she can't ask you to confirm something 6 hours before she tells you that you have the shift.
I'm. Pretty sure I've misunderstood something there or you've posted wrong time-line. Hence the holes.
Sep 23, 2019 -- 4:03PM, detraveller wrote:
Sep 23, 2019 -- 2:31PM, Richie_Burnett wrote:Sep 23, 2019 -- 2:24PM, detraveller wrote:More holes in that story than...Tell me the "holes" and I'll almost certainly explain then for you.I might be an idiot but I can remember my own lifeYou come back home at 2pm and get a text from work asking you to work Monday morning 10am.You say you can't work that early coz your drunk but when and how did you get drunk when you came back home at 2?Also she can't ask you to confirm something 6 hours before she tells you that you have the shift.I'm. Pretty sure I've misunderstood something there or you've posted wrong time-line. Hence the holes.
Back at 2am mush.
I was awake, in a fit of pique, until about 10:30am when I went to the off licence.
Think wires are crossed on the 3rd part.
11-6, Charlie. Never had to confirm in the past, at any time.
I feel like this is a character assassination, I'm asking about worker's rights.
Workers rights are so last century. GL Richie!
Well if they asked you to turn up for a shift and you confirmed you would and did so then I'd say you deserve compensation. Certainly for travel expenses plus wasted time.
My opinion isn't worth a lot though, apart from moral support, as I have no experience of these types of thing. Try CAB but you also have to balance things with the possibility of getting further work from the agency and other agencies they know.
Balancing future earnings was in my mind when I pathetically agreed to work night's today. Then she moved the goalposts again to working 8 hours earlier and I just can't do it because I haven't slept and also been drinking.
Yeah I meant 2am. How can you get home from work at 2am, be told you have to work in the morning, be already drunk enough to decide you won't make it by 10am and on top of all that be told that you had to confirm that at 9pm when that 9pm was about 6 hours before you found out you had to work.
This is chit chat. You need to get your story straight before we get to workers rights.
This is chit chat. You need to get your story straight before we get to workers rights.
dt
I'll let Richie answer for himself as he will do but think you've misunderstood what he said.
I'll let Richie answer for himself as he will do but think you've misunderstood what he said.
Sep 23, 2019 -- 4:21PM, detraveller wrote:
Yeah I meant 2am. How can you get home from work at 2am, be told you have to work in the morning, be already drunk enough to decide you won't make it by 10am and on top of all that be told that you had to confirm that at 9pm when that 9pm was about 6 hours before you found out you had to work.This is chit chat. You need to get your story straight before we get to workers rights.
FFS.
I didn't work at 11pm last night. I walked from Nantgarw to Hopkinstown with a guy who was in the same boat. Then he got his "mate" who was a cab driver, to take him to Tonypandy, where he lives, then he took me, alone, to the top of the valley for £10. Fkn google the times if you don't believe me.
I wasn't drunk at 10am but I hadn't slept for ages so I ruled an afternoon shift out. I cracked and got drunk from 11am to now. I think you've have misread something.
The fkn timeframe is irrelevant, in any case.
OP is either a forum fisherman or a waster who likes to play the victim card.
If the “extensive criminal record” bit is true, he deserves nothing but contempt from genuine hard working folks. Probably a Corbyn supporter.
If the “extensive criminal record” bit is true, he deserves nothing but contempt from genuine hard working folks. Probably a Corbyn supporter.
Why would he deserve nothing but contempt?
Because by his own admission he is a habitual criminal. Persistent offenders offer little of worth to society and deserve our contempt.
The guys held his hand up to his past. Surely he deserves a chance?
A damned sight more than somebody with an “extensive criminal record” that’s for sure.
And as for sanctimony, you’re equally guilty of that vice - coupled with hypocrisy for good measure.
And as for sanctimony, you’re equally guilty of that vice - coupled with hypocrisy for good measure.
get yerself down to Bridgend.. you know it makes sense you welsh ponce
I’ve seen loads like the OP on site. A couple weeks of below par work out of them (turning up late, hungover, whining about transport etc) until one day they don’t show up at all.
Basically useless, just want to live on hand outs.
Basically useless, just want to live on hand outs.
Examples please, Torq. No need for me to show yours, it's right here in this thread.
Mikael, you do realise Torquemada can earn £800 per day. That makes him entitled to feel superior.
I've never met Richie but I'd certainly go for a drink with him. He's one of the most honest posters on here. I don't agree with some of the things he posts but give me honesty over bullsh!te any day of the week.
All the abuse is fair game. Probably most of you do not know real poverrty but I am trying to make avchange. I can easily provevthat I am a winning gambler, despite drink and drugs. A lot would kill for thatbsobdin,t be too judgemental ahaha.
Ask for compo and she said ask the boss. not holding my breath but we go again 6am. on phone. sorry for mart-esqye posts.
It's a difficult question to answer however I agree with the poster who suggested going to Citizens Advice. The problem you have is that if you make a fuss you'll probably be blacklisted and lose the opportunity for work in the future. Good luck you certainly deserve compensation but whether it's worth fighting for is debatable.
Richie you have the sympathy from myself and the rest of the lads at the Geordie KKK,next meeting I'll burn a leek in the shape of a cross in your honour.
What a surprisingly bad reputation you have on here explains some of your posts you have my pity.
What a surprisingly bad reputation you have on here explains some of your posts you have my pity.
What kind of extensive criminality are we talking?
Do tell...
Do tell...
https://www.thelocal.de/20190923/german-court-rules-hangovers-are-illness
Theres a solution to your problem Richie. Come to Germany.
Theres a solution to your problem Richie. Come to Germany.
Asked for some remuneration and the silence is deafening. Workers rights have been eroded under the tories and it's definitely time for change. As a nationalist, I'm not a natural Labour supporter but the whole country clearly needs Corbyn, sooner rather than later.
Sep 23, 2019 -- 10:25PM, lux wrote:
What kind of extensive criminality are we talking? Do tell...
Mostly victimless crimes like drugs, shoplifting, stolen goods, etc.
Richie can you not get on the PIP scheme for pretend drug addiction and psychosis releated illness?
I've a relative who has his whole life paid for and he's as thick as pig sh!t so even you should be able to convince the authorities,just think you will be getting paid to be an accepted addict with a free furnished flat,almost no bills and a pretty competitive weekly payment to feed the addiction and if you get caught doing a crime you won't get jail because of your illness/addiction win win.
You're welcome.
I've a relative who has his whole life paid for and he's as thick as pig sh!t so even you should be able to convince the authorities,just think you will be getting paid to be an accepted addict with a free furnished flat,almost no bills and a pretty competitive weekly payment to feed the addiction and if you get caught doing a crime you won't get jail because of your illness/addiction win win.
You're welcome.
Funny you say that, DenzilPenberthy. My mate has just passed the board and is getting nearly £1k per month for alcoholism. It's almost like they're encouraging him. I was with him, and a few others, while they discussed tactics to pass - not shaving, crying, turning up drunk, fake rattling, etc.
I think I'm someone that drinks too much, rather than an alcoholic (maybe some kidology there) but I doubt I'd be eligible. Money isn't my problem either tbh.
I think I'm someone that drinks too much, rather than an alcoholic (maybe some kidology there) but I doubt I'd be eligible. Money isn't my problem either tbh.
Richie
They aren't victimless crimes. We all know what drugs do to people who take them and supply them. Shoplifting puts prices up, stolen good are stolen from someone.
They aren't victimless crimes. We all know what drugs do to people who take them and supply them. Shoplifting puts prices up, stolen good are stolen from someone.
richie
gl with the life stuff if you are really having a sh1t time, not seen you post much in the last few weeks
gl with the life stuff if you are really having a sh1t time, not seen you post much in the last few weeks
It's almost like they're encouraging him.
It is isn't it,and the reason why is this.
They don't always view indivdual cases as we would think they do i.e is this person genuinely ill therfore entitled etc.
They in many cases with people who are likely to commit crimes and do everything they can not to work (not saying that's you as you work when you can) view it as a whole cost to the system spread across the board on the potential deficit a person may cost society,like police time,courts,police time/costs,jail time,NHS,prescriptions plus other benefits compared to giving them a weekly payment and bills knowing they'll never work but are less likely to commit crimes etc. and cost the system less on the whole.
Seems crazy but when you personally know someone on these schemes living the life knowing they've been arrested 100s of times(stopped arresting mine just taxi'd him home instead),done jail,searched for by helicopters the lot it all adds up so easier to keep them sweet this way and admittedly from a crime point of view it's better than it was him getting everything for nothing.
It is isn't it,and the reason why is this.
They don't always view indivdual cases as we would think they do i.e is this person genuinely ill therfore entitled etc.
They in many cases with people who are likely to commit crimes and do everything they can not to work (not saying that's you as you work when you can) view it as a whole cost to the system spread across the board on the potential deficit a person may cost society,like police time,courts,police time/costs,jail time,NHS,prescriptions plus other benefits compared to giving them a weekly payment and bills knowing they'll never work but are less likely to commit crimes etc. and cost the system less on the whole.
Seems crazy but when you personally know someone on these schemes living the life knowing they've been arrested 100s of times(stopped arresting mine just taxi'd him home instead),done jail,searched for by helicopters the lot it all adds up so easier to keep them sweet this way and admittedly from a crime point of view it's better than it was him getting everything for nothing.
Offshot is word goes round and everyone that way inclined is at it that's why making drugs legal and creating more addicts that otherwise would be working would bankrupt the state.
Charlie, I was being a bit facetious. Didn't mean dealing drugs either, just possession, which is punishing myself more than anyone else.
Not having an especially **** time, elise. Thread just spiralled a bit with too much personal stuff. It's cathartic, in a weird way Having been posting much cos the best poster, Burkey1885, has been banned!
Not having an especially **** time, elise. Thread just spiralled a bit with too much personal stuff. It's cathartic, in a weird way
Having been posting much cos the best poster, Burkey1885, has been banned!
Sort of hard to reply to your post, DenzilPenberthy.
My first thought, from experience, was that when an addict tells you they're due some money in the future, they are invariably setting you up to ask for a short-term loan.
My second thought was that the system is unfair. My brother has a got a catalogue of genuine disabilities and scored a 0 on the test (perfect health, fit for work)
The kind of people you describe are basically my entire social circle. I guess it makes sense to write them off but I hope for something better for myself. Knowing me, I'll end up there somehow.
My first thought, from experience, was that when an addict tells you they're due some money in the future, they are invariably setting you up to ask for a short-term loan.
My second thought was that the system is unfair. My brother has a got a catalogue of genuine disabilities and scored a 0 on the test (perfect health, fit for work)
The kind of people you describe are basically my entire social circle. I guess it makes sense to write them off but I hope for something better for myself. Knowing me, I'll end up there somehow.
Richie
The predicament of your brother sums it up as he isn't going to cause the system financial damage through criminal activities therefore the cost of putting him on benefits outweighs what he otherwise would incur.
They will have the opinion that he will go down the straight routes when if he was a wrong un committing crimes etc. they'd say financially the system would be better off with him on sickness benefits.
My relative gets more for his pretendee illness than his own mother who is a genuine woman who worked for the civil service all her life til she was laid off with bad MS,she can't walk unaided,wears a nappy,has almost constant vertigo,struggles to read without head pain,has various arthritis amongst other things.
She has a pension which she worked and paid for but still how they can justify giving her son more than her is morally disgusting,all the players understand the game from the shysters to the government paid workers who visit the rogues and ask have you been a good boy this week?
The predicament of your brother sums it up as he isn't going to cause the system financial damage through criminal activities therefore the cost of putting him on benefits outweighs what he otherwise would incur.
They will have the opinion that he will go down the straight routes when if he was a wrong un committing crimes etc. they'd say financially the system would be better off with him on sickness benefits.
My relative gets more for his pretendee illness than his own mother who is a genuine woman who worked for the civil service all her life til she was laid off with bad MS,she can't walk unaided,wears a nappy,has almost constant vertigo,struggles to read without head pain,has various arthritis amongst other things.
She has a pension which she worked and paid for but still how they can justify giving her son more than her is morally disgusting,all the players understand the game from the shysters to the government paid workers who visit the rogues and ask have you been a good boy this week?
All past dalliances aside Richie hope you don't get on the carousel because you won't get off and it only goes one way,they are hoping you die before pension age by abusing youself with drugs/alcohol or get so far down you top yourself but they won't admit these things.
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