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is religion a sign of mental illness or
is religion a sign of mental illness or
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It only requires a yes or no answer.
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shaftsbury was a big noise in 1830s reform. changing working conditions and general welfare - defo not too out of it
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No , would be the direct answer , but most , if not all , follow those that claim to have !
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religion, mans worst ever invention.
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And to accuse someone who holds a different opinion to yourself as 'slagging you off' is going on the defensive .
Dunno why I'm bothering to have a discussion with one so touchy  |
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Re Shaftesbury:
One of his biographers, Georgina Battiscombe, has claimed that "No man has in fact ever done more to lessen the extent of human misery or to add to the sum total of human happiness".[63] And yet the OP and others think he and his like are mentally insane...On the contrary, they have given us what we enjoy and take for granted today. |
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Easier to criticise my punctuation than criticise my view . Says it all really . Job done . End of . Bye
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No proof again. Shame on you.
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I'll refer you to my post @ 6.05 and I'll pop back tomorrow to confirm that you still have no response
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You are the one giving out all of these 'facts' but you have no proof. Nobody will believe you.
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When you read the thread back you have been made to look very silly. You started arguing against my guess then have offered absolutely no evidence of you said.
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Charlie • September 17, 2019 6:25 PM BST
You are the one giving out all of these 'facts' but you have no proof. Nobody will believe you. Unlike various religious leaders , I don't require people to believe me in order to justify my existence  |
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injera...……….those people are long dead...……….would they be believers now...……...science and our understanding as moved on since their day
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Islamabad!
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pp - you want a current list?
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Most civilised democratic country's laws are based on Christian tenets.
Most Sh!tholes are not. |
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The head of the genome project francis Collins became a Christian when out hiking he saw a waterfall frozen in 3 parts.....don't tell you don't think that's stupid
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so injera no I don't want a list
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flush...………..but in the ****s like parkistan they worship the SAME god.....
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I am just thinking mental illness/religion/outrages link - it seems to be the in thing in the last decade.
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Religion is the original project fear. It's the way an elite few control the many to maintain and augment their privileged position.
Being in control of the narrative they ordain regular repetition of the mantra by everyone from the earliest age thus cementing the indoctrination as the truth with a set of rules to be obeyed without question. Some religions may have a marginally better outcome for the general population than others but the principal aim is the same. |
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don't forget the dosh, Mr 100/1
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To fill a void or atone for an event (more likely unfortunate) in one's life. It's therapeutic fro some, not for yours truly.
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We have names for people who have many beliefs for which there is no rational justification. When their beliefs are extremely common we call them ‘religious’; otherwise, they are likely to be called ‘mad’, ‘psychotic’ or ‘delusional’.. clearly there is sanity in numbers.
It is considered normal in our society to believe that the Creator of the universe can hear your thoughts, while it is demonstrative of mental illness to believe that he is communicating with you by having the rain tap in Morse code on your bedroom window. Richard Dawkins - The God Delusion |
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Fountain if there isn't a god then your spot on
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but you can blame ...... someone's will etc - a great scheme to wreak havoc and say ..........'it was his work' etc
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I didn't forget the dosh Mr Baphornet, it's alluded to in the word "augment".
You are right it's very important, have you made a donation to the Notre Dame restoration fund? |
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i sent them my prized signed copy of Victor Hugos Les Mis (it seemed appropriate) to auction. I also included a copy of Charles Laughtons boxing novel Punishment i took in the ring (even more appropriate)
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To define the term " mental illness" you firstly have to define what could be construed as being " mentally healthy". Is it healthier for the mind to fabricate a belief in a book of mythology to create a purpose for a pointless finite existence with the belief there is a point and possible afterlife or believe we are all insignificant collections of dust particles hence descending into depression which is apparently " mental illness" and certainly not healthy for mind or body. I certainly believe there is a correlation between religion and intelligence and there have been numerous studies done showing a positive trend between declining IQ and the propensity to be religious.. lets face it regardless of mental illness, to believe that screaming and singing in a church or mosque following ancient texts written by man is the definition of something. I prefer to call it the illness of being fcking stupid personally.
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Good point
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You look at religion from the believers perspective and call it stupidity.
But how powerful do the enforcers(priests, imams etc) have been over the course of centuries that till today hardly any of them have been exposed as spreading mental illness? Where do they get this power from? Priests getting away with child abuse or imams getting away with spreading terrorism, where do they derive their power from? You can't just call something stupidity, without acknowledging that if it indeed is stupidity, how come humans never exposed it? You're saying a guy makes up a religion and gets billions of peopls e to follow him for centuries, that guy is a fkin genius is he not? How about calling the prophets the greatest businessmen ever? Credit where its due. |
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In times gone by , ancient Egyptian civilisations believed the sun was pulled across the sky by a chariot with horses towing it like red rum in the national simply because they couldn't explain why the sun appeared to travel across the sky. Now we have " heaven and hell" in order to explain why "evil " events occur and the assumed karma waiting in the afterlife for those that commit these acts in order to make sense of something that can't be explained- it's the same principle using a child like mentality to give a purpose to something like santa claus for kids which most children under a certain age believe in... presumably you think the bright spark who created the idea of the tooth fairy , santa claus etc is a " fcking genius " as well.
The average IQ is 100 in the population which essentially means the masses are asses and whilst there are plenty of "intelligent " people in society , there are huge swathes of society who are idiots. Taking human civilisation as a whole , a few hundred years isnt that long ago in terms of how long we have been on the planet and in the 16th/17th century we were burning women at stakes for having black hair and drilling holes in peoples heads to let the devil out with perceived mental illness. The human race isn't particularly advanced and it's only now we are beginning to question these dark age pagan rituals of " eating the body of Christ" and kneeling on a mat worshipping the paedophile prophet. Of course, people that believe this religious guff don't take too kindly to their simple mindset being questioned so anyone questioning it are threatened with hell or decapitation depending on your choice of mythological dogma you subscribe to. |
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But who is stopping people from coming together and saying this doesn't make sense, lets get over it. Collective stupidity?
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Why would people " come together " and say lets get over it? Most people are atheist/agnostic in the UK or are of no religious denomination anyway- it's only in the more uncivilised backward countries that people are forced to believe in certain religions due to fear of death/imprisonment etc. People are free to believe what they choose ultimately, it's not for anyone to come together and say you aren't right in the head.. if I believed in singing goblins in my back garden screeching all things bright and beautiful playing trumpets it's no ones business bar mine. My issue with it is when it starts getting preached to others or we here of tax payers money used to fund mosques etc
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over a quarter of german population pays church tax. Thats a lot of stupid people paying a lot of money for their belief. So even in a developed country people can't realize their stupidity. Why?
You believing in singing goblins may show your stupidity. But 20 million people paying 9% income tax to believe in singing goblins is another level. Surely the enforcer of this belief deserves credit for making people pay for such a stupid belief? |
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and using your figures over three quarters of the population don't pay church tax so that's the majority of people. I don't know what you mean by " enforcer "of this belief or what belief you mean as no one is enforced to believe anything and you can opt out of church taxes by opting out of the church which the majority of people do.
There is no one religion , so no one can take credit for anything. Even religions like Christianity have different branches of it with different beliefs ,catholic /protestant etc - it is what is had always been going back to greek Gods and Egyptian God Ra - people trying to find a purpose in their finite lives. Some people believe in Allah , some believe in Jesus , some believe in Buddha , scientologists believe in a galactic ruler called Xenu ( a darth vader type figure).. why is one more credible than the other and singing goblins more daft than the ones just listed? |
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Of course, people that believe this religious guff don't take too kindly to their simple mindset being questioned so anyone questioning it are threatened with hell or decapitation
By enforcer, i mean the person threatening people with death for instance. So if you leave Islam, its ok to murder you. Is that because a lot of stupid people came up with this? or just one smart person, the enforcer, made it up and told everyone to just do it? |